F1 2011 - European Grand Prix VALENCIA

Hatari · 24th June 2011, 16:12

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Originally Posted by PuntoMania

Mclaren + DRS on a drying track was much faster than Mercedes, Button was not faster than MS. There's a difference. In the past 2 seasons, MS has been able to keep Button behind on many occasions even with an inferior car at his disposal.

Obviously!

I was talking about the prev race..
You are getting sentimental, digging up history and getting far to literal.

PAVAN KADAM · 24th June 2011, 19:38

Why do u guys fight over Practice sessions.

Agreed that cars run to their Full potential, but not actual indicators for Race Pace.

And again, Why are we again fighting over ""Michael Schumacher""

Lets watch the MASTER in action, and he's certainly looking good with a good car these days...

MaserQ · 25th June 2011, 18:58

Redbulls on the front row yet again. McLaren & Ferrari might have a chance at podium if they get off to good starts as their race pace has been consistent. It would be interesting to see how the engine mapping ban pans out in the race tomorrow..

motorworks · 26th June 2011, 00:42

Tomorrow's predictions--1-Vettel, 2-Hamilton, 3-Webber.
Somehow ferrari will mess up again. It has been frustrating as a ferrari fan to see the team not being able to compete for the championship. This year's gone too. I dont see how vettel cannot become champion and just needs to stay in the top 3 or 4 for the rest of the races.

Hatari · 26th June 2011, 08:24

FA's saved a set of tires for the race, believe he'l get Lewis.
Can he get Webber though?

A couple of teams have complained on high rear tire wear. That points towards an exciting race.

vb-saan · 26th June 2011, 19:14

Quite a lackluster race I should say. Another routine victory for Vettel. Looking at the way it started, I expected Massa to do better.

Hatari · 26th June 2011, 19:37

Alonsooooooooooooooooo! MEGA MEGA drive!!
with Red Bull being much quicker.. to take Webber was outstanding
great Ferrari strategy of staying out longer than Webber before switching to the primes

Great race with a lot of overtaking..
drivers really had to plan using DRS today.. was not a cakewalk once you pushed the button

great drive by Alguersuari too

MaserQ · 26th June 2011, 19:50

The Vettel train just marches on! Great drive from Alonso to finish second. Ferrari look to be getting closer to Redbull every time. Good to see Sutil finishing in the top 10 and superb strategy from Torro Rosso to put Alguersuari in 8th..who saw that coming! Overall very sedate race compared to the previous one.

mgh · 26th June 2011, 20:38

Yaaawn!
Vettel won again, six wins and two second places. He is running away with the championship, and so are Red Bull.
Nice to see Sutil get points.

hdnivara · 26th June 2011, 20:41

Vettel is just being invincible! He just goes on and on and on..
Webber/Alonso rivalry was a treat! Brilliant DRS moves from Alonso against Webber and one from Button (somewhere in 6 or 7th lap)

Good for Ferrari and Mercedes (Rosberg was quiet good today)

adimicra · 26th June 2011, 23:38

This IMO has been the worst race of the year..no excitement at all.
Even an avid F1 follower like me got bored.

Only the Webber-Alonso rivalry and one passing move by Button over Rosberg are the highlights. Rest...a BIG YAWN!

This year's championship has been sealed by Vettel and Red Bull. I expected the McLarens to give a tough fight but seems like they have gone a step back.

Hope, things change is Silverstone with the new regulations.

ashok_lat · 27th June 2011, 09:39

Its a boring race. I was changing the Channel frequently in-between which i don't do in any of the previous F1 races.

radiokidb · 27th June 2011, 09:51

Yea the race was rather boring. I missed more than half of it and even then i didnt feel that i had missed much (And i am an avid F1 fan!).

Given just how far ahead Vettel is, i wouldnt be surprised if all the other teams start diverting their attention towards their 2012 cars instead. Mercedes probably started a while back. Ferrari have said they are going to wait till they introduce a major upgrade package at Silverstone and then see. Mclaren havent said anything yet but im sure they're thinking about it.

And with the blown diffuser ban coming into effect from Silverstone, who knows what effect it will have on all the teams. Should be an exciting race!

PAVAN KADAM · 27th June 2011, 10:06

A Boring Race.

A Boring commentary

A Boring track.

Its time they do some radical changes in the Track Layout, maybe run Anti-clockwise, maybe add some more corners, some more curves..... I am not liking VALENCIA track, European GP

Nothing more worth mentioning, i am already looking forward to the next race..

vb-saan · 27th June 2011, 10:53

Looks like the RedBull rivals have given up on this season. Alonso even mentioned that they’re fighting McLaren now – for the second place. I guess it’s just going to be a procession, starting from Silverstone until end of the season.
For stats, all the 24 cars made it to the finishing line yesterday. I am not sure if that is a plus

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Originally Posted by PAVAN KADAM

maybe run Anti-clockwise

The race is currently in anti-clockwise direction right?

24th June 2011, 19:38	#32
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,552 Times	Re: F1 2011 - European Grand Prix VALENCIA Why do u guys fight over Practice sessions. Agreed that cars run to their Full potential, but not actual indicators for Race Pace. And again, Why are we again fighting over ""Michael Schumacher"" Lets watch the MASTER in action, and he's certainly looking good with a good car these days...
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25th June 2011, 18:58	#33
MaserQ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,196 Thanked: 166 Times	Re: F1 2011 - European Grand Prix VALENCIA Redbulls on the front row yet again. McLaren & Ferrari might have a chance at podium if they get off to good starts as their race pace has been consistent. It would be interesting to see how the engine mapping ban pans out in the race tomorrow..
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26th June 2011, 00:42	#34
motorworks Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,827 Thanked: 4,209 Times View My Garage	Re: F1 2011 - European Grand Prix VALENCIA Tomorrow's predictions--1-Vettel, 2-Hamilton, 3-Webber. Somehow ferrari will mess up again. It has been frustrating as a ferrari fan to see the team not being able to compete for the championship. This year's gone too. I dont see how vettel cannot become champion and just needs to stay in the top 3 or 4 for the rest of the races.
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26th June 2011, 08:24	#35
Hatari Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Calcutta Posts: 1,880 Thanked: 881 Times	Re: F1 2011 - European Grand Prix VALENCIA FA's saved a set of tires for the race, believe he'l get Lewis. Can he get Webber though? A couple of teams have complained on high rear tire wear. That points towards an exciting race.
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26th June 2011, 19:14	#36
vb-saan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: S'pore/Thrissur Posts: 7,341 Thanked: 12,657 Times	Re: F1 2011 - European Grand Prix VALENCIA Quite a lackluster race I should say. Another routine victory for Vettel. Looking at the way it started, I expected Massa to do better.
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26th June 2011, 19:37	#37
Hatari Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Calcutta Posts: 1,880 Thanked: 881 Times	Re: F1 2011 - European Grand Prix VALENCIA Alonsooooooooooooooooo! MEGA MEGA drive!! with Red Bull being much quicker.. to take Webber was outstanding great Ferrari strategy of staying out longer than Webber before switching to the primes Great race with a lot of overtaking.. drivers really had to plan using DRS today.. was not a cakewalk once you pushed the button great drive by Alguersuari too Last edited by Hatari : 26th June 2011 at 19:44.
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26th June 2011, 19:50	#38
MaserQ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,196 Thanked: 166 Times	Re: F1 2011 - European Grand Prix VALENCIA The Vettel train just marches on! Great drive from Alonso to finish second. Ferrari look to be getting closer to Redbull every time. Good to see Sutil finishing in the top 10 and superb strategy from Torro Rosso to put Alguersuari in 8th..who saw that coming! Overall very sedate race compared to the previous one.
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26th June 2011, 20:38	#39
mgh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 396 Thanked: 40 Times	Re: F1 2011 - European Grand Prix VALENCIA Yaaawn! Vettel won again, six wins and two second places. He is running away with the championship, and so are Red Bull. Nice to see Sutil get points.
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26th June 2011, 20:41	#40
hdnivara BHPian Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 145 Thanked: 30 Times	Re: F1 2011 - European Grand Prix VALENCIA Vettel is just being invincible! He just goes on and on and on.. Webber/Alonso rivalry was a treat! Brilliant DRS moves from Alonso against Webber and one from Button (somewhere in 6 or 7th lap) Good for Ferrari and Mercedes (Rosberg was quiet good today)
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26th June 2011, 23:38	#41
adimicra Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,009 Thanked: 2,477 Times Infractions: 0/1 (7)	Re: F1 2011 - European Grand Prix VALENCIA This IMO has been the worst race of the year..no excitement at all. Even an avid F1 follower like me got bored. Only the Webber-Alonso rivalry and one passing move by Button over Rosberg are the highlights. Rest...a BIG YAWN! This year's championship has been sealed by Vettel and Red Bull. I expected the McLarens to give a tough fight but seems like they have gone a step back. Hope, things change is Silverstone with the new regulations.
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27th June 2011, 09:39	#42
ashok_lat BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 307 Thanked: 58 Times	Re: F1 2011 - European Grand Prix VALENCIA Its a boring race. I was changing the Channel frequently in-between which i don't do in any of the previous F1 races.
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27th June 2011, 09:51	#43
radiokidb BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 208 Thanked: 37 Times	Re: F1 2011 - European Grand Prix VALENCIA Yea the race was rather boring. I missed more than half of it and even then i didnt feel that i had missed much (And i am an avid F1 fan!). Given just how far ahead Vettel is, i wouldnt be surprised if all the other teams start diverting their attention towards their 2012 cars instead. Mercedes probably started a while back. Ferrari have said they are going to wait till they introduce a major upgrade package at Silverstone and then see. Mclaren havent said anything yet but im sure they're thinking about it. And with the blown diffuser ban coming into effect from Silverstone, who knows what effect it will have on all the teams. Should be an exciting race!
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27th June 2011, 10:06	#44
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,552 Times	Re: F1 2011 - European Grand Prix VALENCIA A Boring Race. A Boring commentary A Boring track. Its time they do some radical changes in the Track Layout, maybe run Anti-clockwise, maybe add some more corners, some more curves..... I am not liking VALENCIA track, European GP Nothing more worth mentioning, i am already looking forward to the next race..
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