[aim120]

Honda has come a long way, with their engine mapping sorted as per Redbulls Helmut Marko.

I think Honda now has the edge in power compared to mercedes. Its been evident since the last few races, their straight line speed is higher then mercedes.

Redbull pitcrew has done a stellar job, they made 1.9s pitstop for Max and to do that twice in the same race is incredible.

Brazilian crowd sure likes a good racing.

[speedmiester]

Hamilton gets a penalty and drops to 7th which means Sainz get his first podium and McLaren gets a podium in a long long time.
Brilliant drive by Sainz to take podium starting from last position.

[fz_rider]

For the second time in the season, three redbull juniors have been on the podium. Brilliant race, so many things happening all throughout the race.
Leclerc deserved the podium, but I'm happy for Gasly , who had a torrid season, and Sainz who has been exceptional all season.

[arvi86]

What a day for Honda! With memories of Fernando Alonso sitting by the side of the track looking at the heavens still fresh, it's heartening to see the progress the Japanese manufacturer has made this season. Kudos to Red Bull too for keeping the faith and trust on Honda and helping them deliver the goods with a brilliant chassis. Max was fantastic, especially after the first pit stop when he pounced on what probably was the only chance he would have had to pass Hamilton.

Gasly is doing great ever since he went back to Toro Rosso and yesterday would have been a huge morale-booster for the young lad! And Carlos Sainz did a silent but spectacular race as he has done several times this season. That said, I would have preferred him joining the regular podium celebrations rather than the late result that promoted him up.

And Ferrari, what do I say about this team? Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory as they have done so many times in the last 2.5 years, the folks at Maranello can't catch a break! Vettel and Leclerc touched, yes. But, it wasn't that hard to have so much damage and retire both cars, atleast when viewed from the outside. While this may not be a popular opinion, I think both the drivers were at fault. Seb had almost passed Charles and is entitled to take the usual racing line. Charles should have backed off - just like how Seb did at Turn 1 when he saw his young teammate storm in from so far behind! And Seb isn't faultless either - you just can't be so aggressive over your teammate!

Though I'm a bit disappointed with Ferrari's result, the fact Interlagos came up with yet another cracker of a race made up for it!

[nikhilthegunner]

What a cracker of a race man! That final drag race between Hamilton and Gasly was absolutely epic to watch. I loved that strategy and the short track ensured that literally everyone had a shot at a podium. This is precisely how F1 should be. Not only 3 teams fighting for a win while others just scrap around.

I don't know what is up with Ferrari lately. If the drivers do well, the team screws up. If the team does well, the drivers screw up. Its like someone has to do their job badly otherwise something even worse might happen. The team needs to have a good hard look at this season going by, because if this continues they'll have a horrendous 2020 season as well. After that, I highly doubt Vettel will want or be allowed to stay at Ferrari.

[Vid6639]

Bah. What a mess. The Ferrari team knows how to screw up a sunday night well and proper. They were already on backfoot in tyre strategy then their drivers decide to battle on track. It was clear that Leclerc was on fresh tyres and should have been sent upfront to battle Albon. Why did they let them fight and let Albon get breathing space. Utter stupidity.

Ferrari this year has been the most disjointed team with no strategy and zero control on drivers.

Redbull showed yesterday they can control the race and even started dictating terms to Mercedes in pit stops. Mercedes tried their usual box of tricks but Redbull had them covered.

The accident between Leclerc and Vettel was mainly because of Vettel trying to cut Leclerc off but I will also blame Leclerc. He saw Vettel come and could have moved as well to fight in the next lap. When racing with your team mate you should give way more room. Both didn't imo.

Hamilton and Albon contact was again 50:50. Albon took a line that would give him maximum traction out of the corner and Lewis thought he would squeeze in. He accepted it in the end which was nice.

Overall super entertaining race but not the result that a Ferrari fan would have liked. Especially considering the hard work done by Charles to come from 14th to 4th.

[Mohan Mathew A]

Vettel and Leclerc committed 'harakiri'. Seriously it was so stupid to crash out on a straight where the track was pretty wide. It looked like Vettel just didn't want Leclerc to finish ahead of him even at the cost of spoiling his own race. In my mind Leclerc left sufficient space. The team really needs to rein-in Vettel more than Leclerc

What the hell was Mercedes thinking when they pitted Hamilton during the Safety Car period with 4 laps remaining. That was a rookie mistake. That made Hamilton desperate and caused the eventual crash and valuable points.

Overall a not so good day for both Ferrari and Mercedes and a wonderful day for Honda and Redbull/Toro Rosso

[SJM1214]

Maybe I am wrong, but IMHO, there was no need for a Safety car after Bottas safely parked his car in a far corner(during Lap 51) of the circuit. There wasn't any debris on the track, couldn't they move Bottas's car after the race? Or is there any rule that these cars should be removed immediately?

Max was amazing throughout the race. However, the safety car during the 51st lap changed the equation for other drivers. Telegraph.co.uk amazingly explained Ferrari's crash in one sentence, " The contact was gentle, but the result devastating". Alex Albon deserved podium but due to Hamilton, he had to finish on 14th.

[motorworks]

I could not gather enough courage to explain to my 7 year old son this morning that both the Ferrari drivers crashed in to each other!
What a disaster! I think Ferrari should have taken a call to let Leclerc pass Vettel since he had much fresher tyres. Or they should have told Vettel that if he cannot pass Albon in 2-3 laps he should let Leclerc take a shot. Clearly a podium was easy and from there you have 2 DNFs.

Also, with Ferrari I do not understand this extending the 1st stint. In many races, this late pit stop has only increased the gap to the front runners. Even in Brazil, Vettel was some 4-5 seconds behind Hamilton in the 1st stint, when he eventually made his 1st stop he ended up some 11-12 seconds behind. The commentators were right in saying that Ferrari should have taken the lead by going for the undercut, and probably make a firm 2 stop decision since Max had committed to that anyway.

Lastly, the crash was a result of having 2 alphas in the team and its bound to happen if they are almost equal in most areas and if the management is not clear about certain aspects about whats the balance in racing each other and what is not.

[greatgyan]

Originally Posted by SJM1214

Maybe I am wrong, but IMHO, there was no need for a Safety car after Bottas safely parked his car in a far corner(during Lap 51) of the circuit. There wasn't any debris on the track, couldn't they move Bottas's car after the race? Or is there any rule that these cars should be removed immediately?

After Jules Bianchi crashed into a crane/tractor during the Japenese GP in 2014, which eventually turned out to be a fatal crash, the race control ensures that a safety car is deployed if a tractor/crane has to be brought onto the track to recover a stranded car. At least a VSC condition is definitely imposed in such scenarios.

Leaving the car there wasn't an option as it would have been in the firing line and any other incident at the same place (Vettel Leclerc touched on that straight itself where Bottas had parked his car) would have been disastrous.

[aim120]

Talking of lack of speed of Mercedes powered cars, when you have a Racing point driver complaining about speed then you know how much behind on power Mercedes because historically Force India cars had one of the highest top speed, if not the highest top speed.


Guess who where the slowest in the straight line it was Mercedes. So Honda is now up on power compared to Mercedes.

[ferrarirules]

What a race!!! It was a shame to see Ferrari drivers take each other out. There should have been a clear directive that Seb wouldn't fight hard as Leclerc had better tyres and a better chance to move up that Vettel. But lack of communication unlike the races before still led to the fiasco.

I am surprised that noone is talking about the Hamilton and his over opportune move at Albon. Then Hamilton trying to show himself has the bigger man (human) by accepting his fault in post race interview. Shame on "MAFIA". Also, the fact that "MAFIA" waited for the crowds to go away before giving the position to Sainz and leaving Mclaren to conduct a fake podium ceremony. Remember Mexican GP 2016 and US GP 2017, Max was demoted in the driver cool down room.

It was a big day for two teams, Redbull because they were going for a 1-2 after a very long time and then it was for Mclaren because Sainz drove a stonker race to reach 3rd from 17th to clinch a podium place after 5 years. But it was ruined by the almighty Lewis Hamilton and "MAFIA"

Mexican GP 2016 -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDiWmbNud0U

and US GP 2017 -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgVTMxjNDog

[aim120]

Originally Posted by ferrarirules

I am surprised that noone is talking about the Hamilton and his over opportune move at Albon. Then Hamilton trying to show himself has the bigger man (human) by accepting his fault in post race interview. Shame on "MAFIA". Also, the fact that "MAFIA" waited for the crowds to go away before giving the position to Sainz and leaving Mclaren to conduct a fake podium ceremony. Remember Mexican GP 2016 and US GP 2017, Max was demoted in the driver cool down room.

Albon himself said he didn't look in his mirrors as per Nico Rosberg and he left a door wide open. Albon said he saw the gap that he left in the corner but he didn't really expect Lewis to take that gap. He said Lewis would have overtaken him no matter what on the next lap. His body language says it all in paddock interview, he knows he has some blame for it. But Lewis still manned up despite not watching the replay because he was the driver who was behind.

As for as the Sainz not standing on the podium, well you have to see that in this race towards the last 3 laps there was multiple incidents like ferrari crashes, debris and other investigations like car no 20 which overtook before the start line during the final safety car restart and that penalty for car no 20 was given just after the Verstappen crossed the finish line.

The investigation to Lewis and Albon incident was flashing on the tv screen when Verstappen was on his final straight and took his win some 10 seconds later.

Where as the incident of Verstappen in Mexico 2016 and US 2017, they had lesser incidents to investigate and they had more time to do so.
Verstappen at that time was called crashtappen for a reason so he had a bad reputation.

In this year itself we saw the incident between Leclerc and Verstappen in Austria and that investigation took more then 3 hrs. So they need time in some cases where the evidence is not black and white.

In this case the 5 second penalty to Lewis was given only after they both where in stewards room. This is not first time some in F1 some one got the trophy after the podium celebrations, it has happened before in the past.

[Yusha]

Originally Posted by ferrarirules

What a race!!! It was a shame to see Ferrari drivers take each other out. There should have been a clear directive that Seb wouldn't fight hard as Leclerc had better tyres and a better chance to move up that Vettel. But lack of communication unlike the races before still led to the fiasco.

I am surprised that noone is talking about the Hamilton and his over opportune move at Albon. Then Hamilton trying to show himself has the bigger man (human) by accepting his fault in post race interview. Shame on "MAFIA". Also, the fact that "MAFIA" waited for the crowds to go away before giving the position to Sainz and leaving Mclaren to conduct a fake podium ceremony. Remember Mexican GP 2016 and US GP 2017, Max was demoted in the driver cool down room.

It was a big day for two teams, Redbull because they were going for a 1-2 after a very long time and then it was for Mclaren because Sainz drove a stonker race to reach 3rd from 17th to clinch a podium place after 5 years. But it was ruined by the almighty Lewis Hamilton and "MAFIA"

]

What are you on about, mate?

MV had to give up the positions to Raikkonen in USGP because he went off the track completely and cut a corner to overtake Kimi.

Everyone is talking about the LH and AA incident. Albon went into the corner too hot and could not turn into the apex. He left the door wide open for LH and LH dived in but then AA took the normal line to exit and collided with LH.

Lewis admitted his fault and even apologised personally to Albon before the podium ceremony.

There is no such thing as a MAFIA. But Lewis is definitely almighty. I suggest you should worry about Ferrari given the lack of trust and respect between the drivers.

[ask_017]

Well, escalating quickly. Both Ferrari drivers summoned to HQ.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...azil-collision