2010 F1 Germany - Hockenheimring

better4worse · 24th July 2010, 13:54

If its raining in hockenheim, I'll put my money Button (proven rain master for the season) and Michael (seasoned rain master). I don't think P4 and P5 is that bad a position on the grid considering that cars with heavy fuel and rain on track are bound to act up around the first corner. I am hoping for all that and much more...watching F1 has been so much fun this year. I really miss Kimi and his ruthlessness on the grid, hamilton/webber are doing a good job filling in, but Kimi is KIMI !

PAVAN KADAM · 24th July 2010, 15:05

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Originally Posted by better4worse

If its raining in hockenheim, I'll put my money Button (proven rain master for the season) and Michael (seasoned rain master). I don't think P4 and P5 is that bad a position on the grid considering that cars with heavy fuel and rain on track are bound to act up around the first corner. I am hoping for all that and much more...watching F1 has been so much fun this year. I really miss Kimi and his ruthlessness on the grid, hamilton/webber are doing a good job filling in, but Kimi is KIMI !

If it continues to pour like this, the qualifying and race is gonna be a treat to watch.

In the rain, A Hero can be a Zero and a Zero can get to become a Hero.

mgh · 24th July 2010, 15:33

Another rain affected topsy turvy session.

Sutil hasn't set a time at all. Hope he and his car are in shape for qualifying.

KRf1 · 24th July 2010, 15:35

I am getting the feeling that Alonso and Ferrari might be back on top this weekend .

Even Vettel and Hamilton are supposed to be pretty good in the rain .

aman9393 · 24th July 2010, 17:44

Liuzzi has crashed. Can anyone tell what had happened exactly? I am not at home right now.

raj.barcode · 24th July 2010, 18:02

This is what happened;

He grassed two wheels on astro turf and spun, hitting the pit wall barriers

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What a horrible day for Force India
Sutil is getting 5 place grid penalty and liuzzi smashed the front of his vehicle

aman9393 · 24th July 2010, 18:35

Thanks Raj
Force India has tweeted that Adrian was facing problems with his driveshaft so the entire gearbox had to be replaced. Resulting in the 5 place penalty.

_chikku · 24th July 2010, 18:51

Vettel claimes pole for his home grand prix at Hockenheim - and denied Alonso a first Ferrari pole by just 0.002 seconds.

Massa, Webber, Button follow for 3,4,5 respectively

14000rpm · 24th July 2010, 18:57

Qualifying results

1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:13.791
2 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:13.793
3 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:14.290
4 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:14.347
5 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:14.427
6 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:14.566
7 Robert Kubica Renault 1:15.079
8 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:15.109
9 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:15.179
10 Nico Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:15.339
11 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:15.026
12 Kamui Kobayashi BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:15.084
13 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:15.307
14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:15.467
15 Pedro de la Rosa BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:15.550
16 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:15.588
17 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:16.029
18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1:17.583
19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1:18.300
20 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:18.343
21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1:18.592
22 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:18.952
23 Sakon Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth 1:19.844
24 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth

SchumiFan · 24th July 2010, 19:06

Superb

Ferrari are back! So close to achieving their first pole of the season. Now just don't do anything stupid and try to get the points home.

Massa is also coming good but is half a second behind Alonso. Hope he finds more pace in the future races.

Schumi unlucky to miss out Q3 by thousand of a second. Brawn and MercGp aren't yet there. Williams have made huge progress with their cars. Kudos to them.

mgh · 24th July 2010, 20:20

Force India are falling behind Williams for 3rd race in a row.
They should pray for rain at race time tomorrow, which will definitely get Sutil into points, as he is an excellent wet weather driver.

theragingbull · 24th July 2010, 20:24

F1 is the only sport where even 2000th's of a second can make all the difference!! Amazing drive by Vettel as always. Lets see if he can convert this pole position into a podium finish this time.

anachronix · 24th July 2010, 21:14

The surprise really is the gap between 2nd & 3rd position!

Alonso did extremely well to challenge the bulls this time! It looked like the Ferrari was designed just for the Hockenheim track. The car looks so easy to drive from the onboard view!

I only pray that the Ferraris have a clean race tomorrow.

SilentEngine · 25th July 2010, 18:40

Ferrari are back and how, with a blatant team order. Disgusting stuff from Ferrari, if Alonso was faster than Massa, why not overtake him genuinely on track

shibujp · 25th July 2010, 18:52

"Okay Massa, Alonso is faster than you. please confirm receipt of the message"

Well i frankly think that Ferrari wanted to avoid a Red Bull all over again where two of the drivers take each other out.

Alonso did try an overtaking move a few laps earlier and then cooled his heels. He had to back off when Massa abrubtly shut the door on him. I don't think he would have done that if Massa was not his team-mate

Kind of a dicey situation for Ferrari. If Massa was so good then why didn't he defend his bloody position?? i am tired of this cry baby at Ferrari. He is fast but he makes too many mistakes under pressure. Never a fan.Drivers with less of experience hold faster cars behind them with some smart driving - Massa should try that.

Beats me why Ferrari renewed his contract at all. I wish Vettel cooks Massa's goose!!

Drive on,
Shibu.

24th July 2010, 13:54	#16
better4worse BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 302 Thanked: 2 Times	If its raining in hockenheim, I'll put my money Button (proven rain master for the season) and Michael (seasoned rain master). I don't think P4 and P5 is that bad a position on the grid considering that cars with heavy fuel and rain on track are bound to act up around the first corner. I am hoping for all that and much more...watching F1 has been so much fun this year. I really miss Kimi and his ruthlessness on the grid, hamilton/webber are doing a good job filling in, but Kimi is KIMI !
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24th July 2010, 15:33	#18
mgh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 396 Thanked: 40 Times	Practice Three Another rain affected topsy turvy session. Sutil hasn't set a time at all. Hope he and his car are in shape for qualifying.
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24th July 2010, 15:35	#19
KRf1 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NCR / BLR Posts: 339 Thanked: 3 Times	I am getting the feeling that Alonso and Ferrari might be back on top this weekend . Even Vettel and Hamilton are supposed to be pretty good in the rain . Last edited by KRf1 : 24th July 2010 at 15:36.
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24th July 2010, 17:44	#20
aman9393 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 427 Thanked: 150 Times	Liuzzi has crashed. Can anyone tell what had happened exactly? I am not at home right now.
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24th July 2010, 18:02	#21
raj.barcode BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 706 Thanked: 273 Times View My Garage	This is what happened; He grassed two wheels on astro turf and spun, hitting the pit wall barriers What a horrible day for Force India Sutil is getting 5 place grid penalty and liuzzi smashed the front of his vehicle Last edited by raj.barcode : 24th July 2010 at 18:07.
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24th July 2010, 18:35	#22
aman9393 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 427 Thanked: 150 Times	Thanks Raj Force India has tweeted that Adrian was facing problems with his driveshaft so the entire gearbox had to be replaced. Resulting in the 5 place penalty.
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24th July 2010, 18:51	#23
_chikku BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Puttur Posts: 330 Thanked: 201 Times	Vettel claimes pole for his home grand prix at Hockenheim - and denied Alonso a first Ferrari pole by just 0.002 seconds. Massa, Webber, Button follow for 3,4,5 respectively
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24th July 2010, 18:57	#24
14000rpm Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Helsinki Posts: 2,343 Thanked: 5,564 Times View My Garage	Qualifying results 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:13.791 2 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:13.793 3 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:14.290 4 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:14.347 5 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:14.427 6 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:14.566 7 Robert Kubica Renault 1:15.079 8 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:15.109 9 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:15.179 10 Nico Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:15.339 11 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:15.026 12 Kamui Kobayashi BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:15.084 13 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:15.307 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:15.467 15 Pedro de la Rosa BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:15.550 16 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:15.588 17 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:16.029 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1:17.583 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1:18.300 20 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:18.343 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1:18.592 22 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:18.952 23 Sakon Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth 1:19.844 24 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth
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24th July 2010, 19:06	#25
SchumiFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,041 Thanked: 1,161 Times	Superb Ferrari are back! So close to achieving their first pole of the season. Now just don't do anything stupid and try to get the points home. Massa is also coming good but is half a second behind Alonso. Hope he finds more pace in the future races. Schumi unlucky to miss out Q3 by thousand of a second. Brawn and MercGp aren't yet there. Williams have made huge progress with their cars. Kudos to them.
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24th July 2010, 20:20	#26
mgh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 396 Thanked: 40 Times	Force India are falling behind Williams for 3rd race in a row. They should pray for rain at race time tomorrow, which will definitely get Sutil into points, as he is an excellent wet weather driver.
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24th July 2010, 20:24	#27
theragingbull Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,601 Thanked: 646 Times View My Garage	F1 is the only sport where even 2000th's of a second can make all the difference!! Amazing drive by Vettel as always. Lets see if he can convert this pole position into a podium finish this time.
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24th July 2010, 21:14	#28
anachronix Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Madras Posts: 3,286 Thanked: 1,336 Times View My Garage	The surprise really is the gap between 2nd & 3rd position! Alonso did extremely well to challenge the bulls this time! It looked like the Ferrari was designed just for the Hockenheim track. The car looks so easy to drive from the onboard view! I only pray that the Ferraris have a clean race tomorrow.
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25th July 2010, 18:40	#29
SilentEngine Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: KA19,KA04 Posts: 1,167 Thanked: 735 Times View My Garage	Ferrari are back and how, with a blatant team order. Disgusting stuff from Ferrari, if Alonso was faster than Massa, why not overtake him genuinely on track
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25th July 2010, 18:52	#30
shibujp Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 1,753 Thanked: 3,225 Times View My Garage	"Okay Massa, Alonso is faster than you. please confirm receipt of the message" Well i frankly think that Ferrari wanted to avoid a Red Bull all over again where two of the drivers take each other out. Alonso did try an overtaking move a few laps earlier and then cooled his heels. He had to back off when Massa abrubtly shut the door on him. I don't think he would have done that if Massa was not his team-mate Kind of a dicey situation for Ferrari. If Massa was so good then why didn't he defend his bloody position?? i am tired of this cry baby at Ferrari. He is fast but he makes too many mistakes under pressure. Never a fan.Drivers with less of experience hold faster cars behind them with some smart driving - Massa should try that. Beats me why Ferrari renewed his contract at all. I wish Vettel cooks Massa's goose!! Drive on, Shibu. Last edited by shibujp : 25th July 2010 at 18:54.
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