[knrn]

Hi ashish. How have you been doing? Well sorry. I think excellent as the trips of your thread say. Hahaha.

Anyways, I have noted that most of these are weekend trips. How do you cope with the dpf regen issue. Does it get taken care of by the long trips or do you do some Italian tune up mid week or high revving the car parked.

[ashis89]

Originally Posted by knrn

Hi ashish. How have you been doing? Well sorry. I think excellent as the trips of your thread say. Hahaha.

Anyways, I have noted that most of these are weekend trips. How do you cope with the dpf regen issue. Does it get taken care of by the long trips or do you do some Italian tune up mid week or high revving the car parked.

No special routine so far, DPF has been taking care of itself so far. Touchwood.

Due to Covid, I have been working from home since March. Which means the car lies idle on most weekdays unless for some short errands and is taken out on weekends for a run to the local market or a hill on the Western ghats.

So far, I have driven 400-500 kms at a stretch within city limits before I go on a long drive.

[knrn]

Hmmm. That is nice to note. As I had mentioned previously in a comment that this car is on my radar. And hence I have been following your thread religiously. But then again my running is sadly due to current affairs in the same set up as yours. I was contemplating the s cross petrol also but somehow I feel drawn to the torque of a diesel. Even in my case I will have to do long weekend runs to sort of open up the car while having short errand runs during the week. So after how many kms in the city do you take it out to the hills? You mentioned 400-500. So you do highway trips after every 400-500 or was it a one off incident.

My daily tripping is 4-5 kms max. I live very close to my place of work. When I get free in the evening I like to take the longer route home. Due to low running and a sort of scare of the dpf issue I went and checked the s cross petrol. Whopping space in the same league as creta/ seltos and good quality levels. Since I too own a santro at present( with 100/90 w Phillips rally halogens- same pinch) even the s cross felt like a power upgrade for me. While it has a good drive ability and adequate power, the relaxation of the torque wave that a diesel brings even with a dab on the accelerator is something to be experienced. To be frank I am stuck between these two- s cross and seltos. With my budget I could get the top end s cross or the base seltos diesel. Monthly running is around 250-300 kms. If I throw in some weekend runs I can take it up to 600 but may not be able to do so every week. Still tied up in decision making conundrums. Since you had considered the ciaz too during your initial decision making process in your second thread I sort felt like taking your opinion.

Happy mile munching brother and keep up the trips. Those are some really soothing pics you have taken.

Thanks.

[ashis89]

Originally Posted by knrn

So after how many kms in the city do you take it out to the hills? You mentioned 400-500. So you do highway trips after every 400-500 or was it a one off incident.

Since the day I got the car, I always get (or make!) a chance to take it to the highways every 400-500 kms. Which means my cars hasn't covered more than 500 kms in city roads in one go. However, due to this Covid, sometimes these 300-500 kms were covered over 5-8 weeks.

Since I too own a santro at present( with 100/90 w Phillips rally halogens- same pinch) even the s cross felt like a power upgrade for me.

While it has a good drive ability and adequate power, the relaxation of the torque wave that a diesel brings even with a dab on the accelerator is something to be experienced.

Diesel torque is addictive. Once you are hooked, it is difficult to appreciate an NA petrol engine with linear power.

To be frank I am stuck between these two- s cross and seltos. With my budget I could get the top end s cross or the base seltos diesel. Monthly running is around 250-300 kms. If I throw in some weekend runs I can take it up to 600 but may not be able to do so every week.

You need not head out every week. DPF would need a regeneration every 700-1000 kms. To regenerate the DPF, the engine must run above 2000 rpm continuously for about 20 mins or more. If you feel this routine is doable then you can consider a diesel.

However, in my opinion, you should get a petrol only. With your low running and given that you liked the performance of the S-Cross petrol, it would be a more sensible choice.

NOTE: There are some rumours that S-Cross could get discontinued in the near future. Please check once with DBHPian Leoshashi before you finalize the S-Cross.

Still tied up in decision making conundrums. Since you had considered the ciaz too during your initial decision making process in your second thread I sort felt like taking your opinion.

During my brief test drive of the Ciaz, I liked the 1.5L petrol engine. It has good low end torque and is perfect for city biased usage!

Happy mile munching brother and keep up the trips. Those are some really soothing pics you have taken.

Thanks.

Thanks!

[knrn]

A heartfelt thanks for your detailed reply ashish. I will get in touch with leoshashi.

[Bibendum90949]

Originally Posted by ashis89

No special routine so far, DPF has been taking care of itself so far. Touchwood.

So far, I have driven 400-500 kms at a stretch within city limits before I go on a long drive.

Hello Ashish, Just keen to know which brand diesel do you use. I've just switched to Reliance diesel upon feedback from many diesel Seltos owners. All the while, I was using Shell's non premium diesel so is my friend. His car has had some 5-6 DPF warnings so far. Related post on it.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...ml#post4895588 (BS6 Diesel Car owners - Your experience with DPF / SCR / AdBlue here)

[ashis89]

Originally Posted by Bibendum90949

Hello Ashish, Just keen to know which brand diesel do you use. I've just switched to Reliance diesel upon feedback from many diesel Seltos owners. All the while, I was using Shell's non premium diesel so is my friend. His car has had some 5-6 DPF warnings so far. Related post on it.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...ml#post4895588 (BS6 Diesel Car owners - Your experience with DPF / SCR / AdBlue here)

I have tanked up at Shell bunks at least four times - twice each at the bunk near Baiyyapanahalli police station and one after Tata Sherwoods on Basava Nagar road. Each time it was a full tank of their normal diesel and must have run 600 kms before the next refill.

Last few refuels have been a mix of IOC and HP, but always normal diesel. Some of these bunks were in interior Karnataka as I have been travelling around.

Apart from these, in the past I have refueled at Reliance (4-5 times), Essar (1) and BPCL (2-3 times).

So far all good. *Touchwood*

[Bibendum90949]

Originally Posted by ashis89

Last few refuels have been a mix of IOC and HP, but always normal diesel. Apart from these, in the past I have refueled at Reliance (4-5 times), Essar (1) and BPCL (2-3 times).

So far all good. *Touchwood*

These cocktails seem to be keeping your car's DPF truly contented

[ashis89]

Originally Posted by Bibendum90949

These cocktails seem to be keeping your car's DPF truly contented

Yeah, change in taste is good for its health!

[ajaiD]

Originally Posted by ashis89

Diesel torque is addictive. Once you are hooked, it is difficult to appreciate an NA petrol engine with linear power.

Totally agree with you I recently switched from a Compass diesel BS6 to a Seltos diesel and while the Compass has a turbo and a much stronger engine its also much linear than Seltos.

The reason why I exchanged my car with my brother was because of the 3 star rating and his job requiring constant travel. Also the fact that I forced him to buy the Seltos in the first place did not help matters. Seltos is very peppy for some reason and I often catch myself pushing the pedal to the metal "1st/2nd gear" more than needed.

[ashis89]

I completed my longest non-stop drive till date - 1247 kms in 19 hrs. including 17 hrs. of driving time. I was the lone driver for this trip.

Just take a look at the total distance covered and time taken to understand the average speed and the avg. FE






The average FE of the whole trip keeps increasing as the average speed kept decreasing due to bad roads



Some random pics!

[ashis89]

After the marathon 1250 km/day drive, that extra day halt at Vizag was refreshing. Made quick dash to Rushikonda beach followed by a beach road drive till Ross Hill Church before retiring for the day.


Next day completed the final leg of the trip, another 450 kms. In the meanwhile, Coyote had crossed the 17k km mark and was reminding me of its upcoming service.




Third service was done in 8.5k kms and this time the interval was no different. No complaints except for a mild rattle from the rear which was the rear seat lock playing tantrum. As per advisory from Kia, the fuel pump was checked and found to be good.

Net setback was Rs. 7113. It could have been lowered further by removing the AC disinfectant but I let it pass.


A much needed wash and vacuuming for my Coyote!


Only bad news - one nail found in one of the rear tyres during wheel rotation. Since there wasn't any apparent air loss, I got the car back and will get it fixed today or tomorrow.

Took out RoadRunner yesterday and it is looking for some attention.

[sagwal]

Originally Posted by ashis89

Second Service

6. This car can be fuel efficient if driven sedately. After feathering the accelerator for 50 kms and still maintaining 80-100 kmph on the ORR, I could see 28 kmpl on the trip MID. The 117 km trip yielded 24.7 kmpl which included 20 kms of B2B traffic.

Getting 24.7 kmpl that too including 20 km B2B traffic is superb. It requires a lot of patience and good engine.
One of my friend has petrol ( naturally aspirated) Seltos. He usually gets 18-19 kmpl on highways with light foot on accelerator.

[swiftdiesel]

Originally Posted by ashis89

[h3]
- While moving from standstill on a steep incline, just releasing the clutch in 1st gear is not enough and engine feels bogged down. Keep the RPMs around +/- 1500 rpm and it starts moving fine.

1500 RPM is a bit high in my experience with this engine (mine is 1.4). If you get the clutch bite-point right, you can get your Seltos moving in ~1000 RPM easily. I drive a i20 diesel (1.4) and I've stop-started in some of the steepest inclines in the hills within 1000-1100 RPM. Lesser RPM = better clutch life.

On a side note, the ECU increases the idle RPM to ~950 RPM in the hills to compensate for thinner air and this makes the stop-start more responsive in my experience. Like you said, idle RPM is still not enough to move on but a mild increase in RPM is enough. I reckon this is true for all Hyundai U2 CRDIs.

Great travelogue by the way.

[ashis89]

Originally Posted by ashis89

Just take a look at the total distance covered and time taken to understand the average speed and the avg. FE

Originally Posted by sagwal

It requires a lot of patience and good engine.

The FE varies a lot based on the speed you carry and the type of acceleration you prefer. Drive with a light foot, coast in gear when possible and keep speeds below 100, you will easily see FE well above 20 kmpl.

However on my long drives, my trip average speeds usually are 70-80 kmph. Refer my post above where you can see the fall in average speeds and subsequent rise in FE. The final numbers that you see, is at the end of a 1250 km non-stop drive and crossing major cities like Hyderabad, Vijaywada, Rajahmundry and Vizag.

Originally Posted by swiftdiesel

1500 RPM is a bit high in my experience with this engine (mine is 1.4). If you get the clutch bite-point right, you can get your Seltos moving in ~1000 RPM easily. I drive a i20 diesel (1.4) and I've stop-started in some of the steepest inclines in the hills within 1000-1100 RPM. Lesser RPM = better clutch life.

Agreed! As I drive more, I realize that 1000-1100 rpm is a major mark. If the RPM is above this mark, you can happily chug along in the current gear without any lugging and you will see insane FE numbers too.

0-15 kmph - 1st/2nd gear
15+ kmph - 3rd gear
25+ kmph - 4th gear and so on.

This makes the drive very peaceful in the city and even in a busy highway.

On a side note, the ECU increases the idle RPM to ~950 RPM in the hills to compensate for thinner air and this makes the stop-start more responsive in my experience. Like you said, idle RPM is still not enough to move on but a mild increase in RPM is enough. I reckon this is true for all Hyundai U2 CRDIs.

Thanks for the info! I haven't taken note of it till now but will check this during my time trip to the hills! After getting used to the bite point, based on the gradient, I can pull up from idle RPM or just a tap of the accelerator before releasing the clutch, to avoid any slippage.

Great travelogue by the way.

thanks!