[VernaCular]

Originally Posted by akshay1234

I wouldn't buy it. It was the first generation, and not known to be too reliable.

+ there is a massive difference between an 02 and a 12 X5, no comparison.

I assume the one your mechanic has found is a 3.0 diesel. I think the engine and tranny would be pretty reliable, but be prepared for small electronic niggles.

Thanks for your response, however what exactly would 'not known to be too reliable' mean. Is it something which can be avoided by taking good care and avoiding rough driving?
Are there root issues? If so, anyway to eliminate or reduce them? I generally feel with so much advancement, no issue can be termed as unresolvable, just a matter of cost effectiveness.
Re difference, yes of course there is a massive difference indeed but relative comparison with M class or other premium SUV's makes me conclude that for the layman or non bhp'ians it's not very different in terms of shape of body, lights etc. also out of market accessories like new taillight, headlight etc makes it look much newer.

He has found petrol in 3.3 and a 4.4 in petrol again, any idea on a fair price? Please note that he has changed the rear shockers and blowers, original head and taillights in the 4.4 are the glass with yellow color combination which in my opinion makes it look more older. I plan to 1. Change the headlights from the existing smoked black and yellow/orange to white led from market (Rs 10000) and taillights from red and yellow/orange to red and crystal white (Rs 8000).

What running costs per annum are we looking at?

Any opinions?

Another afterthought after reading your post is; I'm looking at the cost=value factor in terms of the low price for this premium SUV for which otherwise I'd have to settle with an XUV or Duster, at what price would you buy it knowing the issues.

[VernaCular]

Originally Posted by redsfx

I can probably help you source any used beemer you need. If you need help PM me.

Can you please let know about X5 availability?

Originally Posted by ajmat

At that age, be careful. If diesel, turbo's could be on last legs. The mass air flow meter if changed requires reprogramming and the inlet swirl flaps are fragile. If they break and get sucked into engine - Boom. They can be removed but you fuel economy might drop slightly.

The automatic transmission is sealed and cannot be repaired and will need to be replaced. Normally good for 200k km

If it is a V8, it will be more reliable at that age except for the transmission as mentioned above

Thanks for the input. It's a petrol, is there any service specialist in Mumbai for the X5 who can review it fully and advice? I'm obsessed with the car lying in front of my office, have a look at it everyday :-). My other options in the budget were XUV, Duster and Ecosport, however this one no matter how old is still in a different league. The other option was also an M class 270cdi 2001-03 but the looks and interior turned me off big time! The current ones are much better looking.

[Akshay1234]

I don't have specific issues to point out, but from what I have heard its not the most reliable car.

Of course no issue is unresolveable, but after you pay say 15 lacs for this do you want to spend a few more lacs on these issues?

No amount of you taking care, and driving carefully can make up for the last 11 years of its use. And you probably wouldn't know how it was used.

Things like services are going to cost you around the half lac mark, for just a regular service. If parts have to be changed expect a 6 figure bill.

The interiors will be worn out, the leather will have creases.

Is it really worth it?

My suggestion? Seems like you want a car with good badge value at a low price. Not gonna happen. Check out slightly used X1s, which you can get for maybe a lac or 2 more than you would pay for this old X5. Yes the image will take a hit, but believe me you will have a much better time with it.

[VernaCular]

Originally Posted by akshay1234

I don't have specific issues to point out, but from what I have heard its not the most reliable car.

True, that makes sense to my brains and may have to drop the idea like BikerSG. Heart is still stuck :-)

The interior is in good condition, no creases. So I guess the main catch remains what you said; the engine and electronics. FYI..within the interiors seats seem in good condition no creases, dashboard quite decent for a 10 year old car, same goes for roof and the screen on dashboard worked fine. Exterior wise the paint looked in pristine condition, no dents or scratches, it seems to still have the sheen. Only the tail and headlights seem old.

Many thanks for the X1 though, that never crossed my mind, shall scout and see what happens. Thanks.

[VernaCular]

Any idea on what BMW workshop will charge for a full report with computer checks etc?

[Akshay1234]

Originally Posted by VernaCular

True, that makes sense to my brains and may have to drop the idea like BikerSG. Heart is still stuck :-)

The interior is in good condition, no creases. So I guess the main catch remains what you said; the engine and electronics. FYI..within the interiors seats seem in good condition no creases, dashboard quite decent for a 10 year old car, same goes for roof and the screen on dashboard worked fine. Exterior wise the paint looked in pristine condition, no dents or scratches, it seems to still have the sheen. Only the tail and headlights seem old.

Many thanks for the X1 though, that never crossed my mind, shall scout and see what happens. Thanks.

Honestly as good as it seems, its a huge risk. Its a 10 year old car. So you can't predict anything.

Personally I think you should look at the X1, or something similar. You will still get the badge, and some of the image of the X5. What is your budget?

Originally Posted by VernaCular

Any idea on what BMW workshop will charge for a full report with computer checks etc?

Probably a few thousand at the max.

[VernaCular]

Any key pointers to look for in checking a 2003 X5?

Is there an X5 owners club online or otherwise in Mumbai? Or for that matter, any car clubs in Mumbai as in the US, UK.

Note from Support: Please use the edit / multiquote option instead of posting back to back posts within 30 mins on the same thread. Thanks.

[imp!]

Originally Posted by akshay1234

I don't have specific issues to point out, but from what I have heard its not the most reliable car.

Hi Akshay,

We've been offered an '07 X5 with 35000 KMs on the odo and I was wondering what kind of reliability we can expect from the car. How much money do you think we'd need to set aside for a 5 year ownership for component failures? I'm guessing the regular maintenance will be about 50,000 a year for 20,000 km running.

Thanks

imp!

[VernaCular]

Originally Posted by imp!

Hi Akshay,

We've been offered an '07 X5 with 35000 KMs on the odo and I was wondering what kind of reliability we can expect from the car. How much money do you think we'd need to set aside for a 5 year ownership for component failures? I'm guessing the regular maintenance will be about 50,000 a year for 20,000 km running.

Thanks

imp!

Hi Imp,

What's the price range you have been offered at? From my research on X5, almost all I spoke to we're of the opinion that maintenance is on the higher side.

[imp!]

Originally Posted by VernaCular

Hi Imp,

What's the price range you have been offered at? From my research on X5, almost all I spoke to we're of the opinion that maintenance is on the higher side.

Hey Vernacular we got offered the seller is expecting 25ish. Do you have any details about the maintenance?

[VernaCular]

Originally Posted by imp!

Hey Vernacular we got offered the seller is expecting 25ish. Do you have any details about the maintenance?

Depends what level of maintenance we are talking about here; a complete company workshop maintenance would be anywhere around Rs 80k (+/- 10%) for the first year with 10% increase every 12-18 months. A good private garage would be around Rs. 60k with same increase as above due to general wear & tear. This again will depend on the history of the car; whether it has been having underlying issues which haven't been taken care of which could blow up into a bigger problem or does it have an impeccable detailed service record. For example, a cheaper priced battery replaced may have sounded ok to the previous owner but with long run it may bring its own set of issues which may be difficult to fathom until it creates a niggle due to fluctuation or a slightly lower power than whats claimed on the pack.

Please note that the maintenance did not cover electricals like dashboard screen, sunroof etc or parts. Another thing to lookout is for current performance Turbo and how has it been used before.

[Akshay1234]

Originally Posted by imp!

Hi Akshay,

We've been offered an '07 X5 with 35000 KMs on the odo and I was wondering what kind of reliability we can expect from the car. How much money do you think we'd need to set aside for a 5 year ownership for component failures? I'm guessing the regular maintenance will be about 50,000 a year for 20,000 km running.

Thanks

imp!

Would avoid it. 50k a year may not even cover your annual service. And 20k km running a year is far too much for a 6 year old used Euro car. Brake pad changes will cost 50k+ itself, and 20k kms a year will mean you will have to change almost every year.

[imp!]

Originally Posted by akshay1234

Would avoid it. 50k a year may not even cover your annual service. And 20k km running a year is far too much for a 6 year old used Euro car. Brake pad changes will cost 50k+ itself, and 20k kms a year will mean you will have to change almost every year.

Yes that is what we figured in our research. Normally we wouldn't even consider a pre-owned car older than 2-3 years, but even with keeping enough money aside to maintain the car in good working order, it's just not worth the hassle. I think we'll continue our search for a good pre-owned FL2.

[kedarwalke]

Hello folks,

I am being offered a 2008 dec Bmw X5 3.0D done 76000Kms at 32Lacs.Its mumbai registered and first owner.It was covered under BSI and everything is in pristine condition.Recently Tyres and brake pads were replaced and engine overhauling was carried out.

Its one of my close freinds car and I somehow have liked it.

Is 32Lacs a decent deal?if not what should be the correct price?

Awaiting your inputs.

Regs

Kedar Walke

[anandpadhye]

Originally Posted by kedarwalke

2008 dec Bmw X5 3.0D done 76000Kms at 32Lacs.
...
everything is in pristine condition.

Only 76000 km run and engine overhauled???
Then it's not in pristine condition IMHO.