Turbo-charging a Honda Accord V6?

accord masters · 18th September 2006, 22:54

hey bhpians... u must all be familiar with the nemesis.after the bodykit and a new ICE setup i am thinking of adding a turbo/ turbos(2). since this board has some real expert people i would like to take there advice and suggestions...everyone is please invited to post suggestions or advice.

P.S. just to remind you its an accord V6..
cheers

Sahil · 19th September 2006, 09:15

Though a Turbo setup would be Kick A$$, why dont you do some justice to the Mugen sticker that you have on your car and get a Mugen chip/parts to enhance performance.
As you might know Mugen is offically imported by Linkway Honda in bombay so you could contact them.

viper · 19th September 2006, 09:19

Hi,

As Sahil suggested contact Linkway Honda for some Mugen performance enhancements or contact KS Motorsports for the turbo. I beleive he has recently fitted a turbo on a Accord belonging to a Tbhpian.

Viper

Psycho · 19th September 2006, 12:30

The turbo is a great idea... especially if you looking at low boost kind of settings and great reliability. Please make sure you get the right electornics and the fuel system to get it to work right.

This is a second option which may not be a direct bolt on
http://www.comptechusa.com/store/av6sc.html

veyron1 · 19th September 2006, 16:49

Just a suggestion; before going in for a turbo, why don't you get the 6-speed manual for the V6 from the states and bolt it on? See if the performance is sufficient, and THEN go for the turbo. The manual will knock about 1 and a half seconds off your 0-100, and will reduce your transmission lag and increase your top speed significantly.

Chipping and transmission alone will ensure 250 horses going to the front wheels with sufficient brutality...

ap10046 · 21st September 2006, 13:09

Auto to Manual?
You have no idea how difficult that would be. I have been trying to source a manual, short throw 6 speed from an Acura TL,CL or 2001 up Honda Accord V6 COUPE as these are the only cars that use this 'box, for the last 2 years.
There must be less than a 1000 Accords on US roads with this box.

You would at least need :
1) The Transmission..good luck here..really..
2) The ECU
3) Shift linkages
4) Shifter box
5) Clutch master cylinder and reservoir
6) Pedal assembly with 3 pedals
7) Entire piping for the hydraulic system that actuates the clutch
8) Slave cylinder that actuates the clutch on the manual trans.
9) Axles from the donor car.

I would highly recommend the Turbo upgrade. But, I would steer you deftly away from a generic kit as the K24 is a very fussy powerplant. Overboost, wrong A/FR's, overheating, etc would literally bring you to your knees in the cost to replace aspect. I am running 7 PSI all day long in traffic with the a/c on and she is just perfect. Over 1000 kms done already.

Cheers!

ap10046 · 21st September 2006, 16:43

Sorry, You have the J30-A4 (V6).
Supercharging would seem the only safe and reliable "bolt on" mod for the V6.
It would add a good 60-80BHP and maintain drivability.
There IS a twin turbo kit for the '03 V6, but please believe me, the price would make your eyes water! And i'm not even going to get into the dropping the engine bit..!!
Let me know if you need any more info on this.
Cheers!

nitrous · 21st September 2006, 17:11

Im sure there's a bolt-on low boost kit.
Might cost around 3 to 3.5 lakhs.
The 3.0V6 is quite an over-engineered one.

adya33 · 21st September 2006, 17:25

On a FWD car do you really need so much of power?
The car will start to torque steer like crazy

v1p3r · 21st September 2006, 22:21

Get the J30A5 head, you're good for 253 bhp. A couple of camshafts, a nice set of headers, a decent intake, and you'll be pushing 275 bhp. And no hassles on the AFR front too.

Ap10046, what's the scene on your Accord, boss? Fwhp? Qmile times? 0-100?

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Originally Posted by adya33

On a FWD car do you really need so much of power?

Dude, you have gotta be kiddin me!!! All we need is power, more power, and some more power!!!

ap10046 · 22nd September 2006, 10:38

Hi v1p3r,
We have managed about 7 seconds on a back to back 0-100.
We tried a crude 1/4 and we got about 14 and a bit.
No dyno, so can't assume but the wheel tramping and excessive wheel spinning really limits the launching to under 3500, anything over and its either the tires or the clutch that starts burning. She's become quite wild..!
New stage 3 clutch and bigger intercooler going to go in soon, though
Will keep ya'll updated.

ap10046 · 22nd September 2006, 10:42

Update : I think the fuel pump is saying bye-bye. Hullo, high pressure (read VERY expensive new pump..@$%&#!!!.)

veyron1 · 22nd September 2006, 18:19

@ap10046; I meant a NEW tranny. Not a used one. And you forgot a new flywheel/ring and stub as well. Drive shafts don't require replacement, unless retro'ing an LSD from the Acura. But the plus point is that you get O.E. parts, and the mounts are factory designed, and hence minimal hassles. The tranny should be a bolt-on. Cheaper, easier and more reliable than a turbo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ap100046

No dyno, so can't assume but the wheel tramping and excessive wheel spinning really limits the launching to under 3500, anything over and its either the tires or the clutch that starts burning. She's become quite wild..!

So you've got the 2.4 manual. At 7 psi, you're probably running close to 195-200 ponies, all factors assumed to be ideal.

Ford Rocam · 22nd September 2006, 23:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by ap10046

Update : I think the fuel pump is saying bye-bye. Hullo, high pressure (read VERY expensive new pump..@$%&#!!!.)

Not that expensive a Walbro High Volume Fuel pump 255lph which even i am running is approx 7-8K.

18th September 2006, 22:54	#1
accord masters BANNED Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: delhi Posts: 456 Thanked: 44 Times	Turbo-charging a Honda Accord V6? hey bhpians... u must all be familiar with the nemesis.after the bodykit and a new ICE setup i am thinking of adding a turbo/ turbos(2). since this board has some real expert people i would like to take there advice and suggestions...everyone is please invited to post suggestions or advice. P.S. just to remind you its an accord V6.. cheers
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19th September 2006, 09:15	#2
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,292 Thanked: 7,607 Times	Though a Turbo setup would be Kick A$$, why dont you do some justice to the Mugen sticker that you have on your car and get a Mugen chip/parts to enhance performance. As you might know Mugen is offically imported by Linkway Honda in bombay so you could contact them.
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19th September 2006, 09:19	#3
viper BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 19 Times	Hi, As Sahil suggested contact Linkway Honda for some Mugen performance enhancements or contact KS Motorsports for the turbo. I beleive he has recently fitted a turbo on a Accord belonging to a Tbhpian. Viper
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19th September 2006, 12:30	#4
Psycho Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,043 Thanked: 110 Times View My Garage	The turbo is a great idea... especially if you looking at low boost kind of settings and great reliability. Please make sure you get the right electornics and the fuel system to get it to work right. This is a second option which may not be a direct bolt on http://www.comptechusa.com/store/av6sc.html Last edited by Psycho : 19th September 2006 at 12:41.
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19th September 2006, 16:49	#5
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	Just a suggestion; before going in for a turbo, why don't you get the 6-speed manual for the V6 from the states and bolt it on? See if the performance is sufficient, and THEN go for the turbo. The manual will knock about 1 and a half seconds off your 0-100, and will reduce your transmission lag and increase your top speed significantly. Chipping and transmission alone will ensure 250 horses going to the front wheels with sufficient brutality...
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21st September 2006, 13:09	#6
ap10046 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 139 Thanked: 52 Times	Auto to Manual? You have no idea how difficult that would be. I have been trying to source a manual, short throw 6 speed from an Acura TL,CL or 2001 up Honda Accord V6 COUPE as these are the only cars that use this 'box, for the last 2 years. There must be less than a 1000 Accords on US roads with this box. You would at least need : 1) The Transmission..good luck here..really.. 2) The ECU 3) Shift linkages 4) Shifter box 5) Clutch master cylinder and reservoir 6) Pedal assembly with 3 pedals 7) Entire piping for the hydraulic system that actuates the clutch 8) Slave cylinder that actuates the clutch on the manual trans. 9) Axles from the donor car. I would highly recommend the Turbo upgrade. But, I would steer you deftly away from a generic kit as the K24 is a very fussy powerplant. Overboost, wrong A/FR's, overheating, etc would literally bring you to your knees in the cost to replace aspect. I am running 7 PSI all day long in traffic with the a/c on and she is just perfect. Over 1000 kms done already. Cheers!
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21st September 2006, 16:43	#7
ap10046 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 139 Thanked: 52 Times	Sorry, You have the J30-A4 (V6). Supercharging would seem the only safe and reliable "bolt on" mod for the V6. It would add a good 60-80BHP and maintain drivability. There IS a twin turbo kit for the '03 V6, but please believe me, the price would make your eyes water! And i'm not even going to get into the dropping the engine bit..!! Let me know if you need any more info on this. Cheers!
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21st September 2006, 17:11	#8
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Im sure there's a bolt-on low boost kit. Might cost around 3 to 3.5 lakhs. The 3.0V6 is quite an over-engineered one.
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21st September 2006, 17:25	#9
adya33 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 1,839 Thanked: 183 Times	On a FWD car do you really need so much of power? The car will start to torque steer like crazy
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22nd September 2006, 10:38	#11
ap10046 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 139 Thanked: 52 Times	Hi v1p3r, We have managed about 7 seconds on a back to back 0-100. We tried a crude 1/4 and we got about 14 and a bit. No dyno, so can't assume but the wheel tramping and excessive wheel spinning really limits the launching to under 3500, anything over and its either the tires or the clutch that starts burning. She's become quite wild..! New stage 3 clutch and bigger intercooler going to go in soon, though Will keep ya'll updated.
	(1) Thanks

22nd September 2006, 10:42	#12
ap10046 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 139 Thanked: 52 Times	Update : I think the fuel pump is saying bye-bye. Hullo, high pressure (read VERY expensive new pump..@$%&#!!!.)
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