Turbo? NOS? Engine Swap? High CR NA build? How would you modify your engine?

v1p3r · 26th August 2007, 20:27

Please recheck. The old Elantra had a 2.0 petrol engine in the US, loosely based on certain famous Mitsu blocks. The Indian Elantra comes with a 1.8, unless I'm terribly mistaken.

I'd like to explore the limits of my stock car before touching the engine, when I buy a car.

TURBOSAM · 26th August 2007, 21:52

how will it go ...
japanese m800 frontie<1986> with palio 1.6 100 bhp engine with 150 deg overlap valves +free flow exhaust 225 wheels ?

ananthkamath · 26th August 2007, 22:47

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Originally Posted by TURBOSAM

with 150 deg overlap valves

With 150 deg. overlap you will be blowing huge fire***** out the throttle body & sucking in air through your freeflow exhaust.

v1p3r · 27th August 2007, 00:00

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Originally Posted by TURBOSAM

how will it go ...
japanese m800 frontie<1986> with palio 1.6 100 bhp engine with 150 deg overlap valves +free flow exhaust 225 wheels ?

I thought the Palio had zero overlap.

teknophobia · 26th March 2008, 08:35

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Originally Posted by ananthkamath

With 150 deg. overlap you will be blowing huge fire***** out the throttle body & sucking in air through your freeflow exhaust.

I can just imagine that

Cyrus43 · 26th March 2008, 10:55

I vote for engine swap. Gypsy 1.3 MPFI engine in a fiat. Drool Drool

daemon · 17th December 2010, 15:08

What changes does one need to make to the engine to use NOS?
What other changes are involved?

Sorry if this sounds like a repeat question. I couldn't find a definitive answer on the forum when I searched.

Thanks.

pranavt · 17th December 2010, 17:15

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Originally Posted by daemon

What changes does one need to make to the engine to use NOS?
What other changes are involved?

No changes are required, just bolt a NOS cylinder and spray into the intake. Don't forget to use 2 buttons mounted on the steering wheel as that is the most important step. The buttons alone add 10 whp each. If you use steel braided lines, make sure that the fittings are blue in color as they lower the intake charge temps, help atomise the spray better and can increase horsepower by upto 30 nm and if you can procure cams with 360 degree overlap, you are set.

The changes needed to make the engine keep using NOS for more than a few seconds? That's a different matter altogether.

Ricky_63 · 17th December 2010, 18:29

Turbo for me. As I just TC'd my Swift !

Cheers

jatinpatel · 17th December 2010, 20:01

To above all just one question:-
is doing a engine swap legal in India?
Can it be officially be recognized by the RTO?

But if given a choice i would prefer dropping 4G63T into lancer and the rest mods like suspension and all.

pranavt · 17th December 2010, 20:09

Twincharged ITB'd single cam Honda running Darton sleeves sleeved by Dan Benson.

Ricky_63 · 17th December 2010, 20:24

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Originally Posted by jatinpatel

To above all just one question:-
is doing a engine swap legal in India?
Can it be officially be recognized by the RTO?

But if given a choice i would prefer dropping 4G63T into lancer and the rest mods like suspension and all.

You live the dream that most of us do / did. Engine swap per se is not legal unless endorsed on your RC (which is not the easiest thing to do)

Ya you could go that route, rather read Amey's ENLIGHTENING thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pranavt

Twincharged ITB'd single cam Honda running Darton sleeves sleeved by Dan Benson.

Most of us here do not understand Greek

Care to explain in simple English for us lesser mortals ?

Many thanks

pranavt · 17th December 2010, 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky_63

Most of us here do not understand Greek

Care to explain in simple English for us lesser mortals ?

Many thanks

Honda D15/D16 single cam engine running a supercharger for throttle response at low revs and to get the revs high enough to around 5k RPM quickly, feeding the exhaust into a big turbocharger that's capable of around 600 whp, with my ITBs and a custom intake manifold to top it all up.

The block would be sleeved with Darton sleeves by one of the most capable guys for sleeving Honda blocks in the World, a one-man shop that runs Dan Benson racing.

Might just get it done one day

jatinpatel · 17th December 2010, 22:26

@pranavt

just one question will the nimble little OHC stay on its feet with 600whp??
baring in mind with custom suspension and body strengthening done.

isnt 600whp too much for the OHC?

pranavt · 17th December 2010, 22:48

Manageable, definitely. I should have a traction control system ready and on the car sometime during the next year. High speed stability is a function of the chassis design and the suspension; can't do much to the former but can definitely upgrade the latter.

View Poll Results: How will you want to mod your engine?
Give me the boost of a turbo.	55	46.61%
NOS, the best bang for the buck mod.	10	8.47%
Engine swap is the way.	40	33.90%
Will stick to Naturally Aspirated High Compression build.	10	8.47%
I wont touch my engine. It will remain stock, thank you.	23	19.49%
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26th August 2007, 20:27	#46
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,362 Thanked: 7,474 Times View My Garage	Please recheck. The old Elantra had a 2.0 petrol engine in the US, loosely based on certain famous Mitsu blocks. The Indian Elantra comes with a 1.8, unless I'm terribly mistaken. I'd like to explore the limits of my stock car before touching the engine, when I buy a car. Last edited by v1p3r : 26th August 2007 at 20:28.
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26th August 2007, 21:52	#47
TURBOSAM BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: pune Posts: 241 Thanked: 2 Times	hi how will it go ... japanese m800 frontie<1986> with palio 1.6 100 bhp engine with 150 deg overlap valves +free flow exhaust 225 wheels ?
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26th March 2008, 10:55	#51
Cyrus43 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Posts: 5,019 Thanked: 230 Times View My Garage	I vote for engine swap. Gypsy 1.3 MPFI engine in a fiat. Drool Drool
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17th December 2010, 15:08	#52
daemon Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 20 Thanked: 0 Times	NOS and engine What changes does one need to make to the engine to use NOS? What other changes are involved? Sorry if this sounds like a repeat question. I couldn't find a definitive answer on the forum when I searched. Thanks. Last edited by Jaggu : 17th December 2010 at 17:03. Reason: Please use Search before opening a new thread. Similar thread exists. Thanks.
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17th December 2010, 18:29	#54
Ricky_63 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,880 Thanked: 520 Times View My Garage	Re: Turbo? NOS? Engine Swap? High CR NA build? How would you modify your engine? Turbo for me. As I just TC'd my Swift ! Cheers
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17th December 2010, 20:01	#55
jatinpatel BHPian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 610 Thanked: 196 Times View My Garage	Re: Turbo? NOS? Engine Swap? High CR NA build? How would you modify your engine? To above all just one question:- is doing a engine swap legal in India? Can it be officially be recognized by the RTO? But if given a choice i would prefer dropping 4G63T into lancer and the rest mods like suspension and all.
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17th December 2010, 20:09	#56
pranavt BANNED Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,704 Thanked: 852 Times View My Garage	Re: Turbo? NOS? Engine Swap? High CR NA build? How would you modify your engine? Twincharged ITB'd single cam Honda running Darton sleeves sleeved by Dan Benson.
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17th December 2010, 22:26	#59
jatinpatel BHPian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 610 Thanked: 196 Times View My Garage	Re: Turbo? NOS? Engine Swap? High CR NA build? How would you modify your engine? @pranavt just one question will the nimble little OHC stay on its feet with 600whp?? baring in mind with custom suspension and body strengthening done. isnt 600whp too much for the OHC?
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17th December 2010, 22:48	#60
pranavt BANNED Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,704 Thanked: 852 Times View My Garage	Re: Turbo? NOS? Engine Swap? High CR NA build? How would you modify your engine? Manageable, definitely. I should have a traction control system ready and on the car sometime during the next year. High speed stability is a function of the chassis design and the suspension; can't do much to the former but can definitely upgrade the latter.
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