Is a honda city vtec a good car to modify ?

vengeance · 13th January 2005, 01:46

i was wondering how much will i need to spend on a hond city vtec to make it really powerfull . and is it a really powerfull car . is it worth it to spend on vtec

dragger · 13th January 2005, 03:54

Yes Buddy Vtec Is A Perfect Car To Boost I Mean The Mods Are Easily Available U Can Start By Getting A K&N Universal Filter,A Free Flow,Engine Tune Up,Spark Plugs,Ignition Wires,Ecu Remaps,Strut Braces Actually The List Is Never Ending So Probably Can Jus Keep Pumpiing In As Much Money And Stil It Will Always Be Less.Anyways Enjoy Your Ride Because The V-Tec Is One Powerful Machine.

Rehaan · 13th January 2005, 04:16

Hey Vengeance,

It depends on the extent of your modifications.
The VTEC is great if you plan to do the mods listed above by dragger.
However, if you plan to turbocharge or extensively play with the head/cams maybe a 1.5 would be a better option (especially in india) ?
Im sure Dom could put in the final word.

cya
R

Shan2nu · 13th January 2005, 10:26

Yup, we'd better leave this topic to Dom. But for the record, the fastest FWD car in the world happens to be an Integra with a H22A (Prelude) engine, the car is tuned by Apex-i. It produces around 650 bhp (from a 2.2ltr engine) and does the 1/4 mile in 8.84 secs.

GENERAL
Production time 2000 Base in Honda Integra
Layout Front engine / Front drive Tires GOODYEAR
Length 4400 mm / 173.2 in Width 1840 mm / 72.4 in
Height 1230 mm / 48.4 in Weight 830 kg / 1826 lbs
Engine Honda H22A Wheelbase 2591 mm / 102 in
Displacement 2200 cc /134.3 cu in Gearbox X-TRAC 6speed S/Q

Power 650 bhp / 485.0 kw @ 6000 rpm Torque 600 nm / 444.4 ft lbs @ 5200 rpm

1/4 mile time - 8.84secs

650bhp Integra pic

Shan2nu

jesal · 13th January 2005, 12:40

i jus want a good looking vtec thats for sure. 106 bhp is fine with me

Shan2nu · 13th January 2005, 12:56

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i jus want a good looking vtec thats for sure. 106 bhp is fine with me

U bet, actually the tyres will need to be upgraded to prevent those unwanted wheel spins.

Shan2nu

vengeance · 13th January 2005, 14:28

is a turbo charger , 3 stage nos and super charger a good setup for a honday city vtec .

Sahil · 13th January 2005, 14:35

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Originally Posted by vengeance

is a turbo charger , 3 stage nos and super charger a good setup for a honday city vtec .

You plan to burn the road man?

That is mooree than enough! But one piece of serious advice put some nice wiiide rubber on this machine... the city is way to light to handle that much power.

GTO · 13th January 2005, 15:11

Vengeance,

If you are looking at serious modifications, I would suggest a regular 1.5 exi. I have heard from more than one source that the Vtec engine is very sensitive to bad modifications. With the after-market industry being what it is in India, I dont think you want to sit on a 10 lac rupee piece of immovable metal.

Go for the regular 1.5...

GTO

Shan2nu · 13th January 2005, 16:09

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I have heard from more than one source that the Vtec engine is very sensitive to bad modifications.

Very true, infact one off the tuners in Blore warned me. He said that the Vtec can be tuned to a large extent, but if the person doing this doesn't know much about Vtec engines, i'll end up buying a new engine.

If you really wanna get it tuned, you'l have to contact Mugen, HKS or Apex-i. Hehe

For mods in India, you'd be better off with a City 1.5.

Shan2nu

Domnic · 13th January 2005, 16:13

Hello,
The 1.5 will be a cheaper alternative. There are tons of things you can do.
The D16A8 civic head is a direct bolt on, pick up the intake manifold too. It will give some serious gains. You will need some kind of engine management too to cope with the way the new manifold will be reading. Other things you can do is, you get tons of cams, valves, springs, sprockets for the head part. Also RS motorsport makes sleeves for the D15B similar to the block here, you could pick up the sleeves, get Arais and eagle rods and pistons. The bottom will be able to handle a peak of 2 bar boost. A company names 'DRAG' makes good bolt on turbos, it includes everything.

Now back to the original question, is a vtec worth the amount u spend, well the 1.5 will be cheaper to build than the vtec but however heres your options.....

Get a D16Z6 (called mini-me) head, its again a direct bolt on, gives you about 21hp. It has vtec too. Remember to remove the oil jet on the block if you plan on doing this. The D16z6 has tons of parts too in the US. you get many cams, just that its more expensive. This should cost you around 450$ for the head and about 250$ other spares. Let me know if you are interested in doing it up i have a huge list of stuff you can do.....

conclusion...
1.5 : Cheaper and Easier.
1.5 Vtec: A little more expensive, but for street driving(city) this is a better option.

Cheers
Dom

X-Machine · 14th January 2005, 16:29

Hell yeah! Vtec is a really good car to mod.
The engine is too senstive but if u get it dun from the right person,u have a rocket.hehe.
K&n filter,free flow exhaust,plugs n wires,cams,throttle,head porting and polishing,turbocharger and nos.
Imply all this and get a 13.5sec car.

As everyone has pointed out already,1.5 is easier.Yes it is,but if ur duin up the Vtec engine make sure a pro touches it.Else is all gone!!!!

X

revtech · 14th January 2005, 17:00

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Originally Posted by X-Machine

Hell yeah! Vtec is a really good car to mod.
The engine is too senstive but if u get it dun from the right person,u have a rocket.hehe.
K&n filter,free flow exhaust,plugs n wires,cams,throttle,head porting and polishing,turbocharger and nos.
Imply all this and get a 13.5sec car.

X

how much would all tht cost on a vtec and also on a lancer??how good will a lancer 1.5 be with all tht

jesal · 14th January 2005, 17:04

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Originally Posted by revtech

how much would all tht cost on a vtec and also on a lancer??how good will a lancer 1.5 be with all tht

lancers start from 3 laks from 2000 year

revtech · 14th January 2005, 17:09

dude u got me wrong i wanna know.....how much all those mods ......K&n filter,free flow exhaust,plugs n wires,cams,throttle,head porting and polishing,turbocharger would cost on a lancer.....hahah not the cost of a lancer.....

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vengeance Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 6 Thanked: 0 Times	is a honda city vtec a good car to modify i was wondering how much will i need to spend on a hond city vtec to make it really powerfull . and is it a really powerfull car . is it worth it to spend on vtec
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13th January 2005, 03:54	#2
dragger BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: India-Mumbai-Colaba Posts: 350 Thanked: 6 Times	Yes Buddy Vtec Is A Perfect Car To Boost I Mean The Mods Are Easily Available U Can Start By Getting A K&N Universal Filter,A Free Flow,Engine Tune Up,Spark Plugs,Ignition Wires,Ecu Remaps,Strut Braces Actually The List Is Never Ending So Probably Can Jus Keep Pumpiing In As Much Money And Stil It Will Always Be Less.Anyways Enjoy Your Ride Because The V-Tec Is One Powerful Machine.
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13th January 2005, 04:16	#3
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,046 Thanked: 34,078 Times	Hey Vengeance, It depends on the extent of your modifications. The VTEC is great if you plan to do the mods listed above by dragger. However, if you plan to turbocharge or extensively play with the head/cams maybe a 1.5 would be a better option (especially in india) ? Im sure Dom could put in the final word. cya R Last edited by Rehaan : 13th January 2005 at 10:47.
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13th January 2005, 10:26	#4
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	Yup, we'd better leave this topic to Dom. But for the record, the fastest FWD car in the world happens to be an Integra with a H22A (Prelude) engine, the car is tuned by Apex-i. It produces around 650 bhp (from a 2.2ltr engine) and does the 1/4 mile in 8.84 secs. GENERAL Production time 2000 Base in Honda Integra Layout Front engine / Front drive Tires GOODYEAR Length 4400 mm / 173.2 in Width 1840 mm / 72.4 in Height 1230 mm / 48.4 in Weight 830 kg / 1826 lbs Engine Honda H22A Wheelbase 2591 mm / 102 in Displacement 2200 cc /134.3 cu in Gearbox X-TRAC 6speed S/Q Power 650 bhp / 485.0 kw @ 6000 rpm Torque 600 nm / 444.4 ft lbs @ 5200 rpm 1/4 mile time - 8.84secs 650bhp Integra pic Shan2nu
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jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	i jus want a good looking vtec thats for sure. 106 bhp is fine with me
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vengeance Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 6 Thanked: 0 Times	is a turbo charger , 3 stage nos and super charger a good setup for a honday city vtec .
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13th January 2005, 15:11	#9
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,546 Thanked: 300,761 Times View My Garage	Vengeance, If you are looking at serious modifications, I would suggest a regular 1.5 exi. I have heard from more than one source that the Vtec engine is very sensitive to bad modifications. With the after-market industry being what it is in India, I dont think you want to sit on a 10 lac rupee piece of immovable metal. Go for the regular 1.5... GTO
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13th January 2005, 16:13	#11
Domnic Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 428 Thanked: 6 Times	Hello, The 1.5 will be a cheaper alternative. There are tons of things you can do. The D16A8 civic head is a direct bolt on, pick up the intake manifold too. It will give some serious gains. You will need some kind of engine management too to cope with the way the new manifold will be reading. Other things you can do is, you get tons of cams, valves, springs, sprockets for the head part. Also RS motorsport makes sleeves for the D15B similar to the block here, you could pick up the sleeves, get Arais and eagle rods and pistons. The bottom will be able to handle a peak of 2 bar boost. A company names 'DRAG' makes good bolt on turbos, it includes everything. Now back to the original question, is a vtec worth the amount u spend, well the 1.5 will be cheaper to build than the vtec but however heres your options..... Get a D16Z6 (called mini-me) head, its again a direct bolt on, gives you about 21hp. It has vtec too. Remember to remove the oil jet on the block if you plan on doing this. The D16z6 has tons of parts too in the US. you get many cams, just that its more expensive. This should cost you around 450$ for the head and about 250$ other spares. Let me know if you are interested in doing it up i have a huge list of stuff you can do..... conclusion... 1.5 : Cheaper and Easier. 1.5 Vtec: A little more expensive, but for street driving(city) this is a better option. Cheers Dom
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14th January 2005, 16:29	#12
X-Machine Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mumbai/Tokyo Posts: 1,475 Thanked: 29 Times	Hell yeah! Vtec is a really good car to mod. The engine is too senstive but if u get it dun from the right person,u have a rocket.hehe. K&n filter,free flow exhaust,plugs n wires,cams,throttle,head porting and polishing,turbocharger and nos. Imply all this and get a 13.5sec car. As everyone has pointed out already,1.5 is easier.Yes it is,but if ur duin up the Vtec engine make sure a pro touches it.Else is all gone!!!! X
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14th January 2005, 17:09	#15
revtech Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,992 Thanked: 38 Times View My Garage	dude u got me wrong i wanna know.....how much all those mods ......K&n filter,free flow exhaust,plugs n wires,cams,throttle,head porting and polishing,turbocharger would cost on a lancer.....hahah not the cost of a lancer.....
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