Fuel Pressure regulator in ikon 1.6

Ford Rocam · 19th May 2005, 22:16

Hi Guys

Did anybody have installed fuel pressure regulator in an ikon1.6
I belive the stock regulator is integrated in to the fuel rail which is made of Plastic, To install F.P.r we will need to change the fuel Rail also, Any idea how it can be done?

Mpower · 19th May 2005, 22:49

Why do you want to install a FPC. Are you turboing it ??
If not, then what is the benefit?

Ford Rocam · 19th May 2005, 23:17

No Plans for Turbo, Basic mods intake/exhaust+Head Ported Polished 3 angle valve job and stage 2 Cam 285 deg 4m piper U.K , Got installed Air/Fuel Ratio meter, The Engine runs lean after 3500 RPM when throttled and takes some time to get rich mixture when observed on A/F ratio meter.
have spoken to some reputed tuners in mumbai they said you cannot installed F.P.R in an ikon!

Plus lots of things in pipeline, which will be step by step

iceman91 · 20th May 2005, 11:55

dont need to change the fuel rail...need to run the fpr after the stock andsince the pressure is higher the stock becomes a dummy. works perfrectly fine.

@mpower...the fpr is not necessarily for a turbo car. helps in NA too.

z klasse · 20th May 2005, 12:05

The pressure will have to be adjusted when you drive and where it is getting a good amount of pressure.. Usually start at 32 idle and 35~40 or more at acceleration. Adjustment wil have to be done on trial and error.. Depends on what kind of modifications you have done to your car.

z

Domnic · 20th May 2005, 12:08

yeah... install the FPR on the return line after the stock regulator, and you can control the pressure from the new regulator.. will work totally fine.. will also function as a failsafe.

Cheers
Dom

ZenGT · 20th May 2005, 14:14

sure u can install fpr on a ikon..... on a mpfi its always on the outlet of the line.. so leaving the stock where it is... put in the fpr after the fuel rail ie: on the return line... then adjust it as per requirement.... have already done it on a 1.6 ikon.... works grt...

Mpower · 20th May 2005, 21:10

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Originally Posted by Ford Rocam

and stage 2 Cam 285 deg 4m piper U.K

Did you mean "mm" as in 4 mm of lift?

Dont mean to complicate you problem, but you mentioned that its lean initially but becomes rich after a while.........thats telling me that there 'is' enough fuel flow once you reach steady state and the leaning is at transient conditions. Seems like a mapping issue to me.....need more 'tip-in enrichment'. (same as what an acclerator pump in a carb does)
Have you checked what the AFM shows at full throttle & max rpm at steady state? If its lean even after holding for a while then definetly fuel starvation....which means one of the three need to be changed first................... injectors, FPR or the fuel-pump. You need to figure which is your weak link and change that first. Not sure about this but components from the 1.6 Zetec Fusion may be retrofittable with the Rocam. Another good check is the injector pulse width at max load but you need the appropriate software to do this.

Are you using a different intake ? If so, what is the runner length. Did Piper give you a runner length/dia recomendation for the cam.

Iceman......thanks for the tip.

Ford Rocam · 21st May 2005, 20:34

Hi Mpower and Other Bhpians
Thanks for your reply,
mm is not for lift it is "from piper - 4m piper" Yes its runs steady rich once pressure is achieved,
the 1.6 Ford Fusion is All Alluminium Duratec Engine 16V Twin Cam (whish Ford had given this engine to an ikon!) Since the engine is new here not sure about parts retofittable in an ikon,
There was no recommendation from Piper regarding the intake,The intake pipe is slightly bigger but the length is same,
Hey ZenGt can u install FPr for me, ? How much time and what costing are involved P.M me pls

Ford Rocam · 28th June 2005, 22:44

Hey Guys,
At last i got installed Fuel pressure regulator in an ikon , the installation was simple and straight forward , the result was very noticiable i am regretting why i havent installed it earlier,
it has compensated a lot in the low end torque which i had lost due to high lift cam, it has helped me a lot in driving in city traffic and i tell u guys u have to ride it to belive it the surge in power i get after 4000 rpm , i just cant describe it will post the pics soon

gr8guzzler · 28th June 2005, 23:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ford Rocam

Hey Guys,
At last i got installed Fuel pressure regulator in an ikon , the installation was simple and straight forward , the result was very noticiable i am regretting why i havent installed it earlier,
it has compensated a lot in the low end torque which i had lost due to high lift cam, it has helped me a lot in driving in city traffic and i tell u guys u have to ride it to belive it the surge in power i get after 4000 rpm , i just cant describe it will post the pics soon

Congrats buddy....how much did it cost and can you explain more in detail why exactly is it required???

iceman91 · 29th June 2005, 10:23

a good fpr costs any where from 2k to 8k depending on the brand and its specs.

an ideal one with a gauge should be around 6k

9thsphinx · 11th July 2012, 11:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ford Rocam

Hey Guys,
At last i got installed Fuel pressure regulator in an ikon , the installation was simple and straight forward , the result was very noticiable i am regretting why i havent installed it earlier,
it has compensated a lot in the low end torque which i had lost due to high lift cam, it has helped me a lot in driving in city traffic and i tell u guys u have to ride it to belive it the surge in power i get after 4000 rpm , i just cant describe it will post the pics soon

What brand FPR was it and how much did it cost? How about the pictures of the installation?

19th May 2005, 22:16	#1
Ford Rocam BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai-India Posts: 878 Thanked: 23 Times	Fuel Pressure regulator in ikon 1.6 Hi Guys Did anybody have installed fuel pressure regulator in an ikon1.6 I belive the stock regulator is integrated in to the fuel rail which is made of Plastic, To install F.P.r we will need to change the fuel Rail also, Any idea how it can be done?
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19th May 2005, 22:49	#2
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,732 Times View My Garage	Why do you want to install a FPC. Are you turboing it ?? If not, then what is the benefit?
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19th May 2005, 23:17	#3
Ford Rocam BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai-India Posts: 878 Thanked: 23 Times	No Plans for Turbo, Basic mods intake/exhaust+Head Ported Polished 3 angle valve job and stage 2 Cam 285 deg 4m piper U.K , Got installed Air/Fuel Ratio meter, The Engine runs lean after 3500 RPM when throttled and takes some time to get rich mixture when observed on A/F ratio meter. have spoken to some reputed tuners in mumbai they said you cannot installed F.P.R in an ikon! Plus lots of things in pipeline, which will be step by step Last edited by Ford Rocam : 19th May 2005 at 23:25.
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20th May 2005, 11:55	#4
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	dont need to change the fuel rail...need to run the fpr after the stock andsince the pressure is higher the stock becomes a dummy. works perfrectly fine. @mpower...the fpr is not necessarily for a turbo car. helps in NA too.
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20th May 2005, 12:05	#5
z klasse BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 351 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	The pressure will have to be adjusted when you drive and where it is getting a good amount of pressure.. Usually start at 32 idle and 35~40 or more at acceleration. Adjustment wil have to be done on trial and error.. Depends on what kind of modifications you have done to your car. z
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20th May 2005, 12:08	#6
Domnic Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 428 Thanked: 6 Times	yeah... install the FPR on the return line after the stock regulator, and you can control the pressure from the new regulator.. will work totally fine.. will also function as a failsafe. Cheers Dom
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20th May 2005, 14:14	#7
ZenGT BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 90 Thanked: 2 Times	sure u can install fpr on a ikon..... on a mpfi its always on the outlet of the line.. so leaving the stock where it is... put in the fpr after the fuel rail ie: on the return line... then adjust it as per requirement.... have already done it on a 1.6 ikon.... works grt...
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21st May 2005, 20:34	#9
Ford Rocam BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai-India Posts: 878 Thanked: 23 Times	Hi Mpower and Other Bhpians Thanks for your reply, mm is not for lift it is "from piper - 4m piper" Yes its runs steady rich once pressure is achieved, the 1.6 Ford Fusion is All Alluminium Duratec Engine 16V Twin Cam (whish Ford had given this engine to an ikon!) Since the engine is new here not sure about parts retofittable in an ikon, There was no recommendation from Piper regarding the intake,The intake pipe is slightly bigger but the length is same, Hey ZenGt can u install FPr for me, ? How much time and what costing are involved P.M me pls
	() Thanks

28th June 2005, 22:44	#10
Ford Rocam BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai-India Posts: 878 Thanked: 23 Times	Hey Guys, At last i got installed Fuel pressure regulator in an ikon , the installation was simple and straight forward , the result was very noticiable i am regretting why i havent installed it earlier, it has compensated a lot in the low end torque which i had lost due to high lift cam, it has helped me a lot in driving in city traffic and i tell u guys u have to ride it to belive it the surge in power i get after 4000 rpm , i just cant describe it will post the pics soon
	() Thanks

29th June 2005, 10:23	#12
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	a good fpr costs any where from 2k to 8k depending on the brand and its specs. an ideal one with a gauge should be around 6k
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