Sukhoi Mileage Booster -- Legitimate or Not?

Games Goblin · 28th April 2009, 09:32

I found an advertisement for a mileage booster product in a magazine. Its called Sukhoi mileage booster and its made in Philippines. Please take a look at their website and advise me if this is legitimate or not:

Sukhoi-Mileage Booster-First time in India- Save fuel..Save India

Surprisingly, when I searched in the forums, there was not a thead about this -- so I guess it must be a new product

srijit · 28th April 2009, 11:12

Take a look through this thread. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...rformance.html

Digital Vampire · 28th April 2009, 11:12

YAMB!!! Yet another mileage booster! This time with a Russian name, claiming to be made in Philippines, advertised through a website with ample typos to boot and named after a town in Kerala!...How innovative...lol...No wonder it is not discussed here.

BTW the domain name is due for renewal on 27th June.

P1tBull · 28th April 2009, 11:16

Dude, I don't know if a Sukhoi owner would be that worried about the mileage

Games Goblin · 28th April 2009, 12:31

I phoned a garage in Trivandrum (I got the number from the AD), who is a dealer for this and these are the things that he told me

* The device is fixed between the connection between the air filter and the valve cover

* What this device does, according to him -- is that it gathers up the waste fumes coming from the valve cover and then collects the petrol vapors and then feeds it back to the intake -- which results in better combustion [This is explained well in the web site]

* He told me that the best result that his garage achieved with this device was with a Ford IKON Petrol (I am guessing its the 1.3 L model) -- he claims that the vehicle is now returning 22 kmpl

* I asked him whether he personally uses this device -- his reply was that he owns a Zen Diesel and fitting this device into his car would require some modification and this had to be approved by the RTO -- so he is seeking approval -- he told that the device was "bolt-on" for many models so no approval is necessary if it is a straight fit into your car

* He quoted me a price of Rs.16,000 for the device and installation

16,000 ??? Curious I phoned their head office in Pala -- this is what they had to say

* When asked about the price of the device, the head office guys informed me that the device was imported from Philippines, so they had to pay import duty (which I am guessing is aroung 25% if it is imported as an automobile spare part)

* They promised me a 30% - 40% increase in mileage -- also, they told me that if the vehicle did not return the figures that they promised, they would give the money back if the device is returned within one month

* He suggested that I visit their garage at pala

So what do you guys think?

@Srijit -- by reading through that thread, I understand that it is a topic for converting ones car to hydrogeon -- this device is entirely different

@Digital Vampire -- They do have an office in pala, well atleast they picked up the phone number provided by them and they hae invited me to visit. The product needs to be renamed though...

srijit · 28th April 2009, 14:02

No. that thread was a Hydrogen booster thread. Car does not run on Hydrogen, but the gas produced makes for efficient combustion.

Have never heard of waste gases being collected and promoting combustion. Also if it can be fitted on customer cars with no RTO modification, why has the garage owner not fitted one himself? And who says bolt on devices for cars need no approval?

Have you read to the end of that HHO thread? You have Saban Auto Gas in Ernakulam and Praveen in Mumbai who are doing the HHO stuff. It costs around 7-9K, I guess. I'd suggest you talk with Naushad Ali at Saban Auto Gas. He is in EKM and you can get details from him.

Games Goblin · 28th April 2009, 19:38

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Originally Posted by srijit

Have never heard of waste gases being collected and promoting combustion. Also if it can be fitted on customer cars with no RTO modification, why has the garage owner not fitted one himself? And who says bolt on devices for cars need no approval?

Have you read to the end of that HHO thread? You have Saban Auto Gas in Ernakulam and Praveen in Mumbai who are doing the HHO stuff. It costs around 7-9K, I guess. I'd suggest you talk with Naushad Ali at Saban Auto Gas. He is in EKM and you can get details from him.

From what I have been able to comprehend, the shop owner's may Zen need considerable modification in order to fix the device, hence the RTO approval. And according to him if is a straight fit into a vehicle, RTO approval is not required -- but I am not sure about this

Thank you for clearing the topic about HHO to me. I will contact Mr.Naushad regarding this -- I did not read till the last page because when I saw the videos of cars running on water I thouught this discussion was about Hydrogeon powered cars

The HHO looks like a better proposition to me

spadival · 28th April 2009, 20:10

Maybe you should first check with any garage close to Lohegaon airport, Pune. There are plenty of Sukhoi's parked over there. I bet some of them use this mileage booster thingy.

sgiitk · 29th April 2009, 09:42

Simply looks like another brand of Snake Oil.

hillram · 29th April 2009, 10:10

Looks very interesting.
Is this fitted on Sukhoi fighter planes too?

mithun · 29th April 2009, 16:21

Another scam ? Don't waste money !

GTO · 29th April 2009, 22:30

Said it like it is, Mithun. You rather flush that money down the toilet, atleast your car will be safe!

Zappo · 30th April 2009, 01:06

How charming! Call him a few more times and if the guy gets desperate enough to sell it to you he may just tell you about how it also collects the petrol vapors and fumes from all the other cars passing by yours and feeds it into your car's intake to increase the mileage figures further. And if you manage to collect enough vapor from the nearby cars you may just even manage to skip your next refill, a la Frequent Flyer miles of the airlines.

Seriously, shove it man. The day they come up with a device to actually double up the mileage figures (Ikon returning 22kmpl!!!) they will be the next billionaires of this world.

Roy.S · 30th April 2009, 02:03

Lots of this kind of stuff seems to surface in Kerala. Any idea why?
All my Mallu friends don't even seem to care about gas mileage and drive pedal to metal all the time.

28th April 2009, 09:32	#1
Games Goblin BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Eranakulam Posts: 276 Thanked: 196 Times	Sukhoi Mileage Booster -- Legitimate or Not? I found an advertisement for a mileage booster product in a magazine. Its called Sukhoi mileage booster and its made in Philippines. Please take a look at their website and advise me if this is legitimate or not: Sukhoi-Mileage Booster-First time in India- Save fuel..Save India Surprisingly, when I searched in the forums, there was not a thead about this -- so I guess it must be a new product
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28th April 2009, 11:12	#2
srijit BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 598 Thanked: 8 Times	Take a look through this thread. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...rformance.html
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28th April 2009, 11:12	#3
Digital Vampire BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Utopia! Posts: 595 Thanked: 105 Times	YAMB!!! Yet another mileage booster! This time with a Russian name, claiming to be made in Philippines, advertised through a website with ample typos to boot and named after a town in Kerala!...How innovative...lol...No wonder it is not discussed here. BTW the domain name is due for renewal on 27th June.
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28th April 2009, 11:16	#4
P1tBull BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 91 Thanked: 2 Times	Dude, I don't know if a Sukhoi owner would be that worried about the mileage
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28th April 2009, 12:31	#5
Games Goblin BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Eranakulam Posts: 276 Thanked: 196 Times	I phoned a garage in Trivandrum (I got the number from the AD), who is a dealer for this and these are the things that he told me * The device is fixed between the connection between the air filter and the valve cover * What this device does, according to him -- is that it gathers up the waste fumes coming from the valve cover and then collects the petrol vapors and then feeds it back to the intake -- which results in better combustion [This is explained well in the web site] * He told me that the best result that his garage achieved with this device was with a Ford IKON Petrol (I am guessing its the 1.3 L model) -- he claims that the vehicle is now returning 22 kmpl * I asked him whether he personally uses this device -- his reply was that he owns a Zen Diesel and fitting this device into his car would require some modification and this had to be approved by the RTO -- so he is seeking approval -- he told that the device was "bolt-on" for many models so no approval is necessary if it is a straight fit into your car * He quoted me a price of Rs.16,000 for the device and installation 16,000 ??? Curious I phoned their head office in Pala -- this is what they had to say * When asked about the price of the device, the head office guys informed me that the device was imported from Philippines, so they had to pay import duty (which I am guessing is aroung 25% if it is imported as an automobile spare part) * They promised me a 30% - 40% increase in mileage -- also, they told me that if the vehicle did not return the figures that they promised, they would give the money back if the device is returned within one month * He suggested that I visit their garage at pala So what do you guys think? @Srijit -- by reading through that thread, I understand that it is a topic for converting ones car to hydrogeon -- this device is entirely different @Digital Vampire -- They do have an office in pala, well atleast they picked up the phone number provided by them and they hae invited me to visit. The product needs to be renamed though...
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28th April 2009, 14:02	#6
srijit BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 598 Thanked: 8 Times	No. that thread was a Hydrogen booster thread. Car does not run on Hydrogen, but the gas produced makes for efficient combustion. Have never heard of waste gases being collected and promoting combustion. Also if it can be fitted on customer cars with no RTO modification, why has the garage owner not fitted one himself? And who says bolt on devices for cars need no approval? Have you read to the end of that HHO thread? You have Saban Auto Gas in Ernakulam and Praveen in Mumbai who are doing the HHO stuff. It costs around 7-9K, I guess. I'd suggest you talk with Naushad Ali at Saban Auto Gas. He is in EKM and you can get details from him.
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28th April 2009, 20:10	#8
spadival Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	Maybe you should first check with any garage close to Lohegaon airport, Pune. There are plenty of Sukhoi's parked over there. I bet some of them use this mileage booster thingy.
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29th April 2009, 09:42	#9
sgiitk BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,969 Thanked: 4,788 Times	Simply looks like another brand of Snake Oil.
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29th April 2009, 10:10	#10
hillram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,942 Thanked: 1,326 Times View My Garage	Looks very interesting. Is this fitted on Sukhoi fighter planes too?
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29th April 2009, 16:21	#11
mithun BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 2,195 Thanked: 268 Times	Another scam ? Don't waste money !
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29th April 2009, 22:30	#12
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,546 Thanked: 300,788 Times View My Garage	Said it like it is, Mithun. You rather flush that money down the toilet, atleast your car will be safe!
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30th April 2009, 01:06	#13
Zappo Team-BHP Support Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 5,922 Thanked: 2,699 Times	How charming! Call him a few more times and if the guy gets desperate enough to sell it to you he may just tell you about how it also collects the petrol vapors and fumes from all the other cars passing by yours and feeds it into your car's intake to increase the mileage figures further. And if you manage to collect enough vapor from the nearby cars you may just even manage to skip your next refill, a la Frequent Flyer miles of the airlines. Seriously, shove it man. The day they come up with a device to actually double up the mileage figures (Ikon returning 22kmpl!!!) they will be the next billionaires of this world.
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30th April 2009, 02:03	#14
Roy.S BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 707 Thanked: 946 Times	Lots of this kind of stuff seems to surface in Kerala. Any idea why? All my Mallu friends don't even seem to care about gas mileage and drive pedal to metal all the time.
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