Premier Padmini 137D Gearbox Swap

mituadas · 2nd June 2009, 16:49

Hi everybody.

I just purchased Fiat 137D 1995 model 15 days back. It was previously column shift gearbox. Previous owner has changed to floor shift using the kit availabe in the market. But the gear lever is not working properly, mainly in First and Reverse gear. I gave the car for engine overhule. So at this time i want to change the gerbox. I like 118Ne gearbox. So i need suggestion from everybody. Is is direct bolt on fit ? or i have to do some modification. I am also attaching photos of my gearbox.

Thanks

S. Das

salilpawar1 · 2nd June 2009, 19:54

Send a PM to DHABHAR.BEHRAM and/or Cyrus43. They'll help you with the technicalities involved in the swap.

GTO · 3rd June 2009, 11:39

Shouldn't be too difficult as Premier themselves sold the Padmini 137D with a 118 gearbox in later years. The two were also paired in the 138D (diesel 118NE). Do look up this thread for more information on the 137D.

mituadas · 4th June 2009, 08:57

Can anybody have the picture of 118NE GearBox. Pls send me so that i can proceed further.

Thanks

ilangop · 4th June 2009, 09:35

Hi Mituadas,
The starter motor is positioned on the right side of the engine where as in yours its in the left.
I am not sure about my second observation, Need to check if the bellhousing could be separated from the gearbox so that you have the option of making an adapter plate in between the 118NE gearbox and the 137D bell housing.

Rehaan · 4th June 2009, 16:24

As Salil_pawar mentioned, do PM DHABHAR.BEHRAM, as he will be able to provide some useful information.

Also, heres a related thread (though im not sure if it has any info on the 137D) : http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/post-1...on-thread.html

cya
R

mituadas · 15th June 2009, 20:41

Finally I got 118 NE gearbox. I am attaching photos of gearbox as well as engine assembly photos.

Thanks

anjan_c2007 · 15th June 2009, 20:53

Congratulations Mitua Das on buying the Premier 137D. there are hardly any discussions on this car now a days. I had almost forgotten it existed. Our memories are so short. I had almost ended up buying a white 1996, 137D in 2002 as my second car. The asking price was Rs 45 K, a quite reasonable price then.But the rusting below the mat and the lower part of the doors made me change my decision. Though I liked the torquey,but noisy engine of the car. Its a very economical car to use.
Please post pictures and keep us informed about your car.

ilangop · 16th June 2009, 09:37

Hi,
Could you please clarify me if the gearbox shown here is from 137D or 138D. All the best with your restoration.
-Ilango

adheesh · 16th June 2009, 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilangop

Hi,
Could you please clarify me if the gearbox shown here is from 137D or 138D. All the best with your restoration.
-Ilango

The 137D was the Premier Padmini diesel and the 1.38D (note the dot) was the 118NE diesel. The above gearbox is from the 118 NE.

Regards,
Adheesh Parelkar

mituadas · 16th June 2009, 13:55

For purchasing gearbox i went with my mechanic. He told him for 118NE gearbox. But the shop owner showns us 2/3 type of different gearbox of 118NE . My mechanic check all these with a 137D engine which was laying there and finally he choose this one. Mechanic told i do not have to chage plate also. Only thing i have to change is Flywheel clutch plate. Anyhow from that shop i got the 118Ne fly wheel. So i have not confirmed it is from 137D or 138D gearbax. Any way others suggestions are most welcome.

S. Das

mituadas · 2nd August 2009, 19:48

I have changed the gearbox. Total works done is engine complete overhule,gearbox swaped and front suspension. Now i am loving to drive my 137d rather than my M800 and Santo. I am getting lots of black smoke while pressing acceleter pedal. My mechanic told to do a service of injection pump. Should i go for it or any other way to reduce the smoke.

S. Das

Gasoline · 5th August 2009, 20:48

Please go for the pump service, but do it with the genuine (authorized) service people.
Wish you good luck.

2nd June 2009, 16:49	#1
mituadas BANNED Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 81 Thanked: 22 Times	Premier Padmini 137D Gearbox Swap Hi everybody. I just purchased Fiat 137D 1995 model 15 days back. It was previously column shift gearbox. Previous owner has changed to floor shift using the kit availabe in the market. But the gear lever is not working properly, mainly in First and Reverse gear. I gave the car for engine overhule. So at this time i want to change the gerbox. I like 118Ne gearbox. So i need suggestion from everybody. Is is direct bolt on fit ? or i have to do some modification. I am also attaching photos of my gearbox. Thanks S. Das Attached Thumbnails
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2nd June 2009, 19:54	#2
salilpawar1 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (MH-01) Posts: 852 Thanked: 247 Times View My Garage	Send a PM to DHABHAR.BEHRAM and/or Cyrus43. They'll help you with the technicalities involved in the swap.
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3rd June 2009, 11:39	#3
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,546 Thanked: 300,761 Times View My Garage	Shouldn't be too difficult as Premier themselves sold the Padmini 137D with a 118 gearbox in later years. The two were also paired in the 138D (diesel 118NE). Do look up this thread for more information on the 137D.
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4th June 2009, 08:57	#4
mituadas BANNED Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 81 Thanked: 22 Times	Can anybody have the picture of 118NE GearBox. Pls send me so that i can proceed further. Thanks
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4th June 2009, 09:35	#5
ilangop BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 992 Thanked: 903 Times View My Garage	Hi Mituadas, The starter motor is positioned on the right side of the engine where as in yours its in the left. I am not sure about my second observation, Need to check if the bellhousing could be separated from the gearbox so that you have the option of making an adapter plate in between the 118NE gearbox and the 137D bell housing.
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4th June 2009, 16:24	#6
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,046 Thanked: 34,078 Times	As Salil_pawar mentioned, do PM DHABHAR.BEHRAM, as he will be able to provide some useful information. Also, heres a related thread (though im not sure if it has any info on the 137D) : http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/post-1...on-thread.html cya R
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15th June 2009, 20:41	#7
mituadas BANNED Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 81 Thanked: 22 Times	Finally I got 118 NE gearbox. I am attaching photos of gearbox as well as engine assembly photos. Thanks Attached Thumbnails
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15th June 2009, 20:53	#8
anjan_c2007 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: India Posts: 8,331 Thanked: 20,649 Times View My Garage	Congratulations Mitua Das on buying the Premier 137D. there are hardly any discussions on this car now a days. I had almost forgotten it existed. Our memories are so short. I had almost ended up buying a white 1996, 137D in 2002 as my second car. The asking price was Rs 45 K, a quite reasonable price then.But the rusting below the mat and the lower part of the doors made me change my decision. Though I liked the torquey,but noisy engine of the car. Its a very economical car to use. Please post pictures and keep us informed about your car.
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16th June 2009, 09:37	#9
ilangop BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 992 Thanked: 903 Times View My Garage	GB from 137D or 138D Hi, Could you please clarify me if the gearbox shown here is from 137D or 138D. All the best with your restoration. -Ilango Attached Thumbnails
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16th June 2009, 13:55	#11
mituadas BANNED Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 81 Thanked: 22 Times	For purchasing gearbox i went with my mechanic. He told him for 118NE gearbox. But the shop owner showns us 2/3 type of different gearbox of 118NE . My mechanic check all these with a 137D engine which was laying there and finally he choose this one. Mechanic told i do not have to chage plate also. Only thing i have to change is Flywheel clutch plate. Anyhow from that shop i got the 118Ne fly wheel. So i have not confirmed it is from 137D or 138D gearbax. Any way others suggestions are most welcome. S. Das
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2nd August 2009, 19:48	#12
mituadas BANNED Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 81 Thanked: 22 Times	I have changed the gearbox. Total works done is engine complete overhule,gearbox swaped and front suspension. Now i am loving to drive my 137d rather than my M800 and Santo. I am getting lots of black smoke while pressing acceleter pedal. My mechanic told to do a service of injection pump. Should i go for it or any other way to reduce the smoke. S. Das
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5th August 2009, 20:48	#13
Gasoline Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Thirunelveli Posts: 17 Thanked: 2 Times	Please go for the pump service, but do it with the genuine (authorized) service people. Wish you good luck.
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