[ashwinprakas]

Originally Posted by hserus

That's a super short drain interval but I guess it should be ok at that level. Carry oil and filter along on a long ride then.

Sump is only 1L, the time before manufacturers got greedy the recommended drain interval for 1L was 2000km's, it is only recently that they upped it to 5000~10000km's.

Both CT100 and P220 have the prehistoric centrifugal filter so no oil filter replacement, only cleaning when the clutch is changed, recommended is 5k interval cleaning but mine rarely has anything in it even during clutch change.

As for oil thanks to numerous petrol bunks I simply buy a bottle when I fill up for the night and change oil during early hours of the following day before resuming riding, an easy methode for road side oil change is to use a disposable plastic cover to collect drained oil and then nip an edge and pour it into the used up oil bottle so it's easier to dispose without creating issues.

Tried Amsoil 10w30 once?

No I haven't, only synthetics I've used are from Valvoline, Shell, Motul, Castrol and Petronas, Amsoil wasn't available back then, even the ones available were bought from neighbouring districts as availability wasn't that good here.

But bhpian Scorpian is currently using the same in his ZMA as I recall he'd mentioned it some time ago.

It is available on Amazon, but beyond my budget, though everyone I know who've used it has only good things to say about the brand.

Regards,
A.P.

[swiftnfurious]

Got the bike back on Thursday and completed a to & fro trip between Chennai & Bangalore. Sad part -



Seem like the mechanical seal has given up. The Didar guys has placed it the wrong way so it was bound to happen. However, this kind of spillage never happened in the last few long rides. Taking it back to Motodynamics tomorrow.

PS :: NOT happy with the Rimula R4. The bike was rough from the time of oil change and felt hesistant over 100 kmph. I dont think I'll try this anymore. Want to see how the internals look like, since its almost 800 kms on the R4. Will see how much of a difference does Liquimoly make.

[VijayAnand1]

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

Got the bike back on Thursday and completed a to & fro trip between Chennai & Bangalore. Sad part -

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Seem like the mechanical seal has given up. The Didar guys has placed it the wrong way so it was bound to happen. However, this kind of spillage never happened in the last few long rides. Taking it back to Motodynamics tomorrow.

PS :: NOT happy with the Rimula R4. The bike was rough from the time of oil change and felt hesistant over 100 kmph. I dont think I'll try this anymore. Want to see how the internals look like, since its almost 800 kms on the R4. Will see how much of a difference does Liquimoly make.

Did you face a coolant leak earlier and replaced it with a new mechanical seal before this trip? Or was this old seal leaking after the oil replacement?

Cheers!
VJ

[aargee]

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

The Didar guys has placed it the wrong way so it was bound to happen. However, this kind of spillage never happened in the last few long rides

Who did the work? Is it that Rajendran? You've to stay with him constantly because he's always distracted since he's always in "know it all" mode

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

Will see how much of a difference does Liquimoly make.

Nothing will beat Motul or Shell; they're technically #1 & #2 in the FS 10W40

[swiftnfurious]

Originally Posted by VijayAnand1

Did you face a coolant leak earlier and replaced it with a new mechanical seal before this trip? Or was this old seal leaking after the oil replacement?...

Nop, the seal was replaced earlier itself and not before the trip. I think last year or so, Karthik while changing oil, mentioned it was put upside down.

Originally Posted by aargee

Who did the work? Is it that Rajendran? You've to stay with him constantly because he's always distracted since he's always in "know it all" mode


Nothing will beat Motul or Shell; they're technically #1 & #2 in the FS 10W40

Not sure who did the work - after that, I haven't visited them for my own good. No plans to go back to them either.

I have been a part of CBR 250 group and someone mentioned about a mechanic who's a CBR specialist, based out of Koyembedu (was with JSP Honda previously I guess). So yeah, if anything so important, I have these guys to run to, so no more Didar.

I used to be on Motul, wanted to try LiquiMoly as I hear so much about the brand. Might switch to Shell 10w40 from next time as you have good things to talk about it.

[aargee]

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

someone mentioned about a mechanic who's a CBR specialist, based out of Koyembedu (was with JSP Honda previously I guess)

Pls check once again, it should be Arumbakkam & not Koyambedu; if that's the case... no comments!!

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

I used to be on Motul, wanted to try LiquiMoly as I hear so much about the brand. Might switch to Shell 10w40 from next time as you have good things to talk about it.

Liqui Molly is good & has their standards close to Shell; however Shell & Motul use ASTM standard that is slightly superior to ISO standard that Liqui Molly adheres to.

[nosfreak]

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

PS :: NOT happy with the Rimula R4. The bike was rough from the time of oil change and felt hesistant over 100 kmph. I dont think I'll try this anymore. Want to see how the internals look like, since its almost 800 kms on the R4. Will see how much of a difference does Liquimoly make.

Is this your first time on the Rimula R4? This engine would be rough for the next 2-3k km. This oil is ideally meant to clean out the chunk inside the engine. Using it myself. Ideally it takes 2-3 cycles for the bike to smoothen out. After 2 cycles of oil change, you can switch back on FS Shell.

[ManasN95]

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

PS :: NOT happy with the Rimula R4.

Originally Posted by nosfreak

Is this your first time on the Rimula R4?.

Exactly what I was going to say. Did you click the photo of the R4 oil when you put in the oil and now?

That may tell us the state of your engine internals.

If you do not have the before photo, please atleast click the photo now as you have already covered 800-900 KMs as you said, I have the 'before' photo. We can compare the two photos.

If the state of the oil is not so good, I'd say carry out 1-2 more cycles of Rimula before switching to FS.

[swiftnfurious]

Originally Posted by nosfreak

Is this your first time on the Rimula R4? This engine would be rough for the next 2-3k km. This oil is ideally meant to clean out the chunk inside the engine. Using it myself. Ideally it takes 2-3 cycles for the bike to smoothen out. After 2 cycles of oil change, you can switch back on FS Shell.

Originally Posted by ManasN95

Exactly what I was going to say. Did you click the photo of the R4 oil when you put in the oil and now?

That may tell us the state of your engine internals.

If you do not have the before photo, please atleast click the photo now as you have already covered 800-900 KMs as you said, I have the 'before' photo. We can compare the two photos.

If the state of the oil is not so good, I'd say carry out 1-2 more cycles of Rimula before switching to FS.

Alright - this is the first time. Am so used to the smoothness right after the oil change and was disappointed with this. When you say 2-3 cycles, what the mileage we are looking at ? 4K kms x 3 cycles ? Or less than that?

I dont have the pics right now, but there is balance oil in the service centre (500 ml). So, getting a pic of it is not difficult. There was absolutely no heating issues during the drive. The return was without much of a break. After lunch at Krishnagiri, I took just one 10 min break.

Odo at 47,138 kms

[ManasN95]

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

Alright - this is the first time. Am so used to the smoothness right after the oil change and was disappointed with this. When you say 2-3 cycles, what the mileage we are looking at ? 4K kms x 3 cycles ? Or less than that?

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It would depend on how quickly your newly put oil turns black. The drain intervals will keep on increasing with every oil change.

I seriously suggest you consider carrying out these 2-3 cycles of Rimula.

Please click a photo of your oil currently with the odometer and post here for logging purposes.

I do have the photo of the fresh Rimula oil which I'll share today.

If your oils has already changed it's colour to a darker shade, there's a lot of gunk in the engine which needs cleaning, as far as I'm informed.

The oil plus Yamaha filter are cheap, hence you would be able to do a good cleaning before shifting to FS

[nosfreak]

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

Alright - this is the first time. Am so used to the smoothness right after the oil change and was disappointed with this. When you say 2-3 cycles, what the mileage we are looking at ? 4K kms x 3 cycles ? Or less than that

Since this is a mineral oil it's suggested to change within 3000kms. 1 cycle of rimula is Ideally suggested for 2500 to 3000 kms. Don't worry about it getting black within 1000kms or so. It shows it's working, just keep a small tab of the oil level. FYI, drive the bike like you always drive. Keep good revs and 90 to 110kmph if permissible on highways.

FYI hope you using the fz150 oil filter. It's way cheaper and the exact fit and finish of the cbr.

[ManasN95]

Originally Posted by nosfreak

Don't worry about it getting black within 1000kms or so. It shows it's working, just keep a small tab of the oil level.

Rimula "ideally" runs for 2500-3000 KMs. He should definitely worry about it getting runny and close to a dark shade around 1000 KMs as, yes, it does mean that it's doing it's job, but also means there's a whole lot of gunk present.

In that case, there's no point running the same oil for another 2000 KMs. Dump it, cleaner oil, cleaner engine. It's dirt cheap anyway!

[swiftnfurious]

Originally Posted by ManasN95

I have the 'before' photo. We can compare the two photos...

Originally Posted by ManasN95

...Please click a photo of your oil currently with the odometer and post here for logging purposes.

I do have the photo of the fresh Rimula oil which I'll share today...

Originally Posted by nosfreak

.... FYI hope you using the fz150 oil filter. It's way cheaper and the exact fit and finish of the cbr.

Thanks guys. Have requested the service guys to share a pic of current oil. I have attached a pic of the drop leaked when I reached Bangalore and it does look dark black.

If you can share the 'before pic', will be nice. I'll try and click pic of the fresh oil when I go to the centre.



I couldnt source the FZ150 oil filter last time. Will try and source atleast 2 considering I may go for another round of Rimula and switch to LiquiMoly after that.

[ManasN95]

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

If you can share the 'before pic', will be nice. I'll try and click pic of the fresh oil when I go to the centre.

Here you go! This is a newly put R4.

[swiftnfurious]

Got the pic of the oil from service centre and doesnt look all that bad. I can safely conclude that there is not much gunk ad I initially worried.



I am told the leak was from oil filter gasket and its replaced and fixed. The bike's still at the centre due to the heavy rain. Will be picking it up only by tomorrow or day after based on the climate conditions in Chennai