The Twin Spark Psyched Bull !

black12rr · 30th March 2007, 19:53

ya we are talking real bikes now , when 2 plugs are better than one to improve combustion and more even burning . Would like to see the bike in flesh and offcourse pics .
Why dont we have a bike meet in bangalore ? I guess we never had !

jkdas · 30th March 2007, 20:17

yah a meet ; a bike one

me in.

BUT we need to meet before 6 atleast so that we can ride the bike. right?

black12rr · 30th March 2007, 20:46

me in ,but how many bikers would come ..if you plan to put a thread and we will surely meet up and ride to MTR or nandihills or any other good place .

Godfather · 30th March 2007, 20:53

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Originally Posted by black12rr

me in ,but how many bikers would come ..if you plan to put a thread and we will surely meet up and ride to MTR or nandihills or any other good place .

Why only bikes huh!!!... What about us poor guys who cannot afford a bike...Or rather are not allowed to own one

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Godfather

Psycho · 30th March 2007, 21:19

Sankar port the manifold too that is the only option you have to get the flow right also you did need higher compression else it is not going to work.

Godfather · 30th March 2007, 21:28

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

No, you didn't. It's called PM.

Muhuhuhahahahaha... see my Orkut scraps for more Info bro..

Godfather

Sankar · 30th March 2007, 21:42

Lolz... Viper and Goddie!!! Actually i logged into orkut and team bhp at the same time so got to see Goddie's scrap and Viper's PM... but Goddie won by a slight margin!!

@Jaggu: Bro you're still here! Nice! Yes it's the manifold dia i was talking about.

@Psycho: A new manifold is the only way as the current one can't be bored out by that much. I'll have to see if i can adapt some other manifolds like the P180's it's a bit bigger i think. I might be able to with some bit of welding. With the stock compression the kicker sometimes locks up and i can stand on it

Hehehe.. I'll bump up the compression when i'm gonna put the .60 oversize piston couldn't source it this time.

The timing has to be slightly retarded me thinks with the two plugs.. I'm ready for a meet tomo.. but guys just keep in mind that the bike's in testing phase so it's not yet fully setup. I just put a 180 size jet got to check it tomo morning.

Edit: As JK said it's better if it's before dark.

v1p3r · 30th March 2007, 21:43

Shiite, I knew I should have covered the Orkut angle too. Ok, I'll play chase car in a friend's black Dicor.

Godfather · 30th March 2007, 21:45

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Originally Posted by Sankar

Lolz... Viper and Goddie!!! Actually i logged into orkut and team bhp at the same time so got to see Goddie's scrap and Viper's PM... but Goddie won by a slight margin!!

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Aaahhhhhh...sweet sweet VICTORY...

Godfather

Jaggu · 30th March 2007, 21:46

ok i guess ur already onto it, and on right track also bro, check out some from part shopa or worse case try do a custom job

thinkin out wild here, can rd/rx kinda set up be customised? wider do u want to try varying the track length also and see the diff?

Sankar · 30th March 2007, 21:57

Jagg bhai, the RD & RX manifold are too big to adopt it will require a lot of welding on to the head. Or the other way is to design a plate which will fit onto the stock two bolt pattern on tot he head but with a space for four bolt pattern for the RD/RX manifold. But that would place the carb far too away from the head and that's bad for good signal. But a pulsar manifold/ pulsar type custom manifold would be much neater.

As far as i know i think a short manifold is better for high rpm performance and a long one for low rpm torque. Based on this i want to place the carb as close as possible to the head. Now the carb is placed almost at the stock length from the head..length is good only gripe about that manifold being the dia.

Jaggu · 30th March 2007, 22:21

just get a custom job done if you cant get a replacement one from other bikes

Sankar · 31st March 2007, 20:57

Well the 180 jet test has been done but it's a bit on the richer side (still no black smoke from exhaust!!) and the plug is showing a good color. Engne's running cool too. There is a problem though when maxing out there's a slight flutter. it means the size is a wee bit big and ideal size would be around 170 me thinks on the current setup (it will change with compression and proper manifold). So tomorrow going to lower the needle and test. Speedo doesn't work so thinking of tagging along on the with Jk's Avenger to get a rough estimate.

Testing going to be done at NICE road very close to our place, well surfaced, six lanes and less traffic as road not yet officially opened for transport.

jkdas · 2nd April 2007, 17:50

did the run last day. My bike with pillion and Sankar's bike. I overtoom his bike when my bike speedo showed almost near 120. My guess is that his bike was doing 115kmph. I think the pickup of his bike improved drastically too as he was able to beat me initially. Should do another run soon.

jkdas · 2nd April 2007, 17:58

some pix after the run.

30th March 2007, 19:53	#16
black12rr Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ridin earth now Posts: 1,280 Thanked: 349 Times	ya we are talking real bikes now , when 2 plugs are better than one to improve combustion and more even burning . Would like to see the bike in flesh and offcourse pics . Why dont we have a bike meet in bangalore ? I guess we never had !
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30th March 2007, 20:17	#17
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,685 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	yah a meet ; a bike one me in. BUT we need to meet before 6 atleast so that we can ride the bike. right?
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30th March 2007, 20:46	#18
black12rr Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ridin earth now Posts: 1,280 Thanked: 349 Times	me in ,but how many bikers would come ..if you plan to put a thread and we will surely meet up and ride to MTR or nandihills or any other good place .
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30th March 2007, 21:19	#20
Psycho Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,040 Thanked: 111 Times View My Garage	Sankar port the manifold too that is the only option you have to get the flow right also you did need higher compression else it is not going to work.
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30th March 2007, 21:42	#22
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,780 Thanked: 9,253 Times	Lolz... Viper and Goddie!!! Actually i logged into orkut and team bhp at the same time so got to see Goddie's scrap and Viper's PM... but Goddie won by a slight margin!! @Jaggu: Bro you're still here! Nice! Yes it's the manifold dia i was talking about. @Psycho: A new manifold is the only way as the current one can't be bored out by that much. I'll have to see if i can adapt some other manifolds like the P180's it's a bit bigger i think. I might be able to with some bit of welding. With the stock compression the kicker sometimes locks up and i can stand on it Hehehe.. I'll bump up the compression when i'm gonna put the .60 oversize piston couldn't source it this time. The timing has to be slightly retarded me thinks with the two plugs.. I'm ready for a meet tomo.. but guys just keep in mind that the bike's in testing phase so it's not yet fully setup. I just put a 180 size jet got to check it tomo morning. Edit: As JK said it's better if it's before dark.
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30th March 2007, 21:43	#23
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,364 Thanked: 7,505 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (7)	Shiite, I knew I should have covered the Orkut angle too. Ok, I'll play chase car in a friend's black Dicor.
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30th March 2007, 21:46	#25
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,372 Thanked: 17,304 Times	ok i guess ur already onto it, and on right track also bro, check out some from part shopa or worse case try do a custom job thinkin out wild here, can rd/rx kinda set up be customised? wider do u want to try varying the track length also and see the diff? Last edited by Jaggu : 30th March 2007 at 21:49. Reason: better go hime, too wild
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30th March 2007, 21:57	#26
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,780 Thanked: 9,253 Times	Jagg bhai, the RD & RX manifold are too big to adopt it will require a lot of welding on to the head. Or the other way is to design a plate which will fit onto the stock two bolt pattern on tot he head but with a space for four bolt pattern for the RD/RX manifold. But that would place the carb far too away from the head and that's bad for good signal. But a pulsar manifold/ pulsar type custom manifold would be much neater. As far as i know i think a short manifold is better for high rpm performance and a long one for low rpm torque. Based on this i want to place the carb as close as possible to the head. Now the carb is placed almost at the stock length from the head..length is good only gripe about that manifold being the dia.
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30th March 2007, 22:21	#27
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,372 Thanked: 17,304 Times	just get a custom job done if you cant get a replacement one from other bikes
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31st March 2007, 20:57	#28
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,780 Thanked: 9,253 Times	Well the 180 jet test has been done but it's a bit on the richer side (still no black smoke from exhaust!!) and the plug is showing a good color. Engne's running cool too. There is a problem though when maxing out there's a slight flutter. it means the size is a wee bit big and ideal size would be around 170 me thinks on the current setup (it will change with compression and proper manifold). So tomorrow going to lower the needle and test. Speedo doesn't work so thinking of tagging along on the with Jk's Avenger to get a rough estimate. Testing going to be done at NICE road very close to our place, well surfaced, six lanes and less traffic as road not yet officially opened for transport.
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2nd April 2007, 17:50	#29
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,685 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	did the run last day. My bike with pillion and Sankar's bike. I overtoom his bike when my bike speedo showed almost near 120. My guess is that his bike was doing 115kmph. I think the pickup of his bike improved drastically too as he was able to beat me initially. Should do another run soon.
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2nd April 2007, 17:58	#30
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,685 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	some pix after the run.
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