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Originally Posted by DhinaStark94
(Post 5799183)
- Recently my less than 1 year old access is facing vibrations/ shudders during first few minutes after starting from cold start. Mostly it comes when i accelerate from stand-still and goes away after i reach 10kms or above.
- Should i give it to FNG or raise complaint with non-existent suzuki Customer support. |
- If its the weird vibration that happens at a low-mid rpm, ride above that to avoid it. If its throughout the rev-range I would guess the fueling but not very sure.
- Do raise a complaint, it works and gets routed back to the ASC. You can visit another ASC for a second opinion.
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Originally Posted by shancz
(Post 5799752)
- If its the weird vibration that happens at a low-mid rpm, ride above that to avoid it. |
Yes it is at very low rpm, it would be within 500 to 1500. And its only there till i ride a few minutes then it reduces. And what about the oil? Are you still using the castrol power 1 ultimate 5w40?.
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Originally Posted by DhinaStark94
(Post 5799773)
- Yes it is at very low rpm, it would be within 500 to 1500. And its only there till i ride a few minutes then it reduces.
- Are you still using the castrol power 1 ultimate 5w40?. |
- Get an engine oil change to OEM(R7000) just to rule out spurious oils and while you're at it replace the gear oil too.
- My last change was to OEM Ecstar R7000, see post #95 onwards but I won't be able to give you an update on that due to reasons listed below.
Update:
Had a crash in April trying to avoid hitting a biker who appeared in front from the wrong side while running away from police for not wearing a helmet.
A slight right bank with a two-finger dab on the brakes led to the handlebars violently swinging to the right and the front end locking up sending me crashing down at 30-40kmph. The left forearm suffered a compound fracture and both bones broke into 10-12 fragments and are currently held on by titanium plates and screws with a very long recovery time. Other damages were just minor scratches to my right leg and right side of the Access.
Reason for this post: Folks with drum brakes on the front should definitely read this and is applicable to any two-wheeler
The way the Access behaved was completely unexpected as the braking force wasn't significant to cause such a violent swing and lock up. A month later when I saw the Access again I found the reason for this behaviour.
When I turned the handlebar slightly to the right with a two-finger dab on the front brakes the brake lever progressively got very hard and at a deflection of 45 degrees I was barely able to keep my fingers on it while the front brake was applied in full!
So the initial swing of the bars could've been due to some sand which started applying the front brakes more than needed and this process escalated to full lock and full brakes within a second catching me by surprise and causing the crash.
This also explained a minor skid I had 1-2 years ago while taking a U-turn at 5kmph, without the brakes pressed. I doubted the brakes bit and went to the ASC but they gave an all clear so I attributed it to low grip levels on the cold winter morning.
With the issue reproducible, sent it to the ASC, spoke to the mechanic who said that a few strands of the front brake wire were broken and fouling with the casing causing this behaviour. The front brake cable(cable unit contains the wire and casing) was changed and the problem was resolved. Cost was ~500INR for parts and labour, CBS/combi-brake models should expect higher charges.
Conclusion:
Anyone with an asymmetric behaviour when the handlebar is rotated in any direction, should get the brakes and throttle cables checked and changed, however stupid the decision seems to you or others. Vehicle repairs are cheaper than ours :)
:OT
This was the first time I was unable to come home post a crash and it wasn't a good feeling looking at my parents having to take care of me in the hospital and post that. Notwithstanding the postponement of everything in life for a number of months. I have had crashes before and every time I learned from my mistakes and was back in the seat as soon as I could. This time though I am not sure.
Please expect long period of absence from the thread.
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Originally Posted by shancz
(Post 5799801)
- Get an engine oil change to OEM(R7000) just to rule out spurious oils and while you're at it replace the gear oil too.
- My last change was to OEM Ecstar R7000, see post #95 onwards but I won't be able to give you an update on that due to reasons listed below. Update:
The left forearm suffered a compound fracture and both bones broke into 10-12 fragments and are currently held on by titanium plates and screws with a very long recovery time. |
Oh im very sorry to hear that, hope you are fine now!. Sometimes even if we follow all the rules bad luck finds us anyways. Take care and thanks again for your replies.
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Originally Posted by bharathdonti
(Post 5751327)
I have been using Motul 7100 4T Fully Synthetic 10W-40 engine oil. The scooter feels smooth. I have done 20,600km so far in 6 years.
I have been getting an average fuel efficiency of 43km/l |
Wait isn't this a motorbike engine oil with JASo MA standards meant for wet clutch engines? How is it fairing with access 125 ? I was using this gem on my FZ V3 earlier before i sold it worked wonder to the gear shift smoothness and engine refinement. It that smooth that all my friends shifted to the same oil.
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Originally Posted by shancz
(Post 5799752)
- If its the weird vibration that happens at a low-mid rpm, ride above that to avoid it. If its throughout the rev-range I would guess the fueling but not very sure.
- Do raise a complaint, it works and gets routed back to the ASC. You can visit another ASC for a second opinion. |
Following up on this vibration issue i had dropped a mail to suzuki customer support and they seem to be non existent as i did not receive any reply other than them asking for the last service details. So after waiting more than 2 week i took it to a different service centre thinking that nothing is going to happen here also. But to my surprise they tested for 1 day and confirmed that there is indeed a problem and replaced the clutch roller arm and clutch hub free under warranty. They did not give me any bill as they said free warranty replacements dont get any bill. Now the problem is solved and the bike runs smoothly without any vibrations.
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Originally Posted by DhinaStark94
(Post 5807395)
Now the problem is solved and the bike runs smoothly without any vibrations. |
Glad to know and Thanks for updating.
Suzuki's response wasn't surprising so "visit another ASC" should be our first step going forward :)
Have fun :thumbs up
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Originally Posted by shancz
(Post 5807410)
Glad to know and Thanks for updating.
Suzuki's response wasn't surprising so "visit another ASC" should be our first step going forward :)
Have fun :thumbs up |
Yes the things is most people including me hope that a Japanese brand will have good ASS. Especially when considering they're 4 wheeler cousin has very good Support. But for suzuki 2 wheeler its seems finding a solution to your problem depends highly on your luck, if there is a good SA incharge & experienced mechanics in that showroom. I say this because i switched from my own town to Chennai recently and i have experience with 5 different Suzuki showrooms. Most of them had very young mechanics, some are just temporary workers. They just take your bike fill the papers and wash and apply cutting oil all over and give the bike back you, regardless of your complaints. Only thing they care about is you giving them a good review. :Frustrati
Suzuki has issued a massive recall for three of its scooters. The recall has been issued on July 25th 2024 and affects vehicles manufactured between April 30th 2022 to December 3rd 2022.
This particular issue affects the Suzuki Access 125, Burgman 125 and Avenis 125. This issue is caused due to a faulty high tension cord which is installed to the ignition coil. This is what Suzuki describes the issue to be, “Since high tension cord which did not meet the drawing requirements (NG) was installed to ignition coil, crack and breakage occurred in high tension cord due to repeated bending caused by engine oscillation during running, resulting in engine stall and starting failure. Further, when cracked high tension cord is exposed to water, the vehicle speed sensor and throttle position sensor may be damaged by the leaked ignition output, resulting in speed display failure or starting failure”.
Suzuki has listed the number of affected units to be 2,63,788 for the Access, 52,578 for the Avenis and 72,025 for the Burgman 125. Suzuki also mentions this to be a precautionary recall and has informed affected owners to visit their nearest service center to have the part replaced.
Suzuki has also issued an unrelated recall for the V-STROM 800DE in India for vehicles manufactured between May 5 2023 to April 23rd 2024. This is an international recall and Suzuki estimates that up to 67 units have been affected in India. The issue here stems from a faulty rear tyre where cracks or deformations can form in the tire tread. If gone unchecked, portions of the rear tire tread may separate from the tyre structure and impact overall vehicle dynamics. Affected bikes will have a new rear tyre installed.
Hello guys, I have most probably finalised the Suzuki Access as my next scooter.
The Special Edition is coming to around 1.09L on road.
I am not in an extreme haste to buy a new scooter, can wait for the festivals to see if there are more offers, as well any concrete news about the new Suzuki Access launch.
What do you guys suggest? Would I get better offers around Dussehra, Ganpati or Diwali than the current price quoted?
Please le me know!
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Originally Posted by ManasN95
(Post 5812797)
Would I get better offers around Dussehra, Ganpati or Diwali than the current price quoted? |
I would say its always better to get the latest iteration unless you want something specific in the current iteration.
Although Suzuki's current recall doesn't mention the models manufactured after April 2024 but it would be wise to wait out a few months so that your scooter has the fix from factory. As a bonus you might get some offers during festive months.
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Originally Posted by ManasN95
(Post 5812797)
Hello guys, I have most probably finalised the Suzuki Access as my next scooter.
What do you guys suggest? Would I get better offers around Dussehra, Ganpati or Diwali than the current price quoted?
Please le me know! |
The chances of Suzuki launching the new Access during the festive season are high, so I would recommend you wait till then,
https://www.bikewale.com/news/update...-125-incoming/
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Originally Posted by shancz
(Post 5799801)
When I turned the handlebar slightly to the right with a two-finger dab on the front brakes the brake lever progressively got very hard and at a deflection of 45 degrees I was barely able to keep my fingers on it while the front brake was applied in full!
With the issue reproducible, sent it to the ASC, spoke to the mechanic who said that a few strands of the front brake wire were broken and fouling with the casing causing this behaviour. The front brake cable(cable unit contains the wire and casing) was changed and the problem was resolved. Cost was ~500INR for parts and labour, CBS/combi-brake models should expect higher charges.
Anyone with an asymmetric behaviour when the handlebar is rotated in any direction, should get the brakes and throttle cables checked and changed, however stupid the decision seems to you or others. Vehicle repairs are cheaper than ours :) |
This is a known issue in gen-1 Access in the Suzuki centre we use. We have 3 more gen-1 Accesses in our extended family, excluding ours (2012 make). We face this issue of throttle and brake jamming every 2-3 years. Solution is to get the cable changed like a consumable every 2-3 years, like you did. We identify this issue easily because we kick start our vehicle every morning on the main stand which results in the issue showing up once you turn the handle to its extreme right.
Unfortunately, you had to find out this way. Get well soon.:thumbs up
Thanks for your wishes :thumbs up
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Originally Posted by Researcher
(Post 5822070)
This is a known issue in gen-1 Access |
Mine is a Gen-2(Dec 2017, BS4).
The throttle never jammed and the brakes issue is difficult to notice unless explicitly looking for it.
Live and Learn :)
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Originally Posted by bijims
(Post 5812854)
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Have Suzuki gone to sleep over this or what? Festive season is upon us, and what are they testing for so long? It's the same engine right? Just revised cosmetics?
TVS teased Jupiter 110 and launched in 2 days without any scoops whatsoever.
I am desperately waiting to change my scooter which is 15 years old and is constantly giving me problems, and Suzuki are now testing my patience.
Although, the launch of a new color shade recently means they're close to launching the facelift. BUT WHEN!?
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