xx's Yezdi 250 project

hillram · 24th February 2009, 09:32

Good restoration my friend.IS this the stock colour? Btw what are the speeds that you have achieved on this?

gendarmee · 24th February 2009, 16:27

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Originally Posted by xxaarraa

Now, it's a 12V battery and only a 6V charging system. That explains the 8.65V. The battery is steadily discharging. Not surprised.

I guess it has a 12 volt charging system. Please open the points side of the crank case and check. I assume that because Jawa comes with a 12V coil-magnet system.
Did you check the rectifier?

xxaarraa · 24th February 2009, 16:37

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Originally Posted by gendarmee

I guess it has a 12 volt charging system. Please open the points side of the crank case and check. I assume that because Jawa comes with a 12V coil-magnet system.
Did you check the rectifier?

How can you tell if the rectifier is working?

xxaarraa · 25th February 2009, 19:48

Changed the front brake shoes today. The axel nut was a bit** to get off! Had to hammer it out after plenty of WD-40.

The brakes the old man sold me must be of a later or earlier model Jawa/Yezdi. They weren't a direct fit. I had to cut off half the hole and drill another. Anyway, they are on and the bike stops better.

sharanramesh · 2nd March 2009, 15:41

waiting for an update? what spark plug did u finalize on?

xxaarraa · 5th March 2009, 19:06

Got some new parts delivered today.

Model 'B' Petrol tank + fuel tap
Yezdi monograms and rubber inserts for tank
Model 'B' head light nacelle
Some automobile headlight cover and stainless steel rim
Model 'B' handle bar
Rubber grommets and other mounting items
Total for all of these: 1650 delivered to my house.

Still looking for a Model 'B' front mud guard, should get it tomorrow or day after. Will be dropping these off for painting early next week.

Sankar · 5th March 2009, 21:47

Cool man! That handlebar with welded on yokes is pretty hard to get new!

Nitin · 5th March 2009, 22:18

Nice! Good luck with the project.
How long do you think it will take for the whole process? And I bet its not easy to find parts these days.

xxaarraa · 6th March 2009, 08:25

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Originally Posted by Nitin

Nice! Good luck with the project.
How long do you think it will take for the whole process? And I bet its not easy to find parts these days.

Time depends on how authentic you want to be. I am not a stickler for originality; in fact, I prefer modern equivalent parts that are easily available wherever possible. Now, Kapiljolly's Yezdi/Jawas, those are true restoration projects. You may want to ask him how long it took him.

As for parts availability, it has been easier than I thought. There are some shops in Chennai and Hyderabad that seem to have the basics. Fingers crossed!

TuffRyder · 8th March 2009, 23:38

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Originally Posted by Nitin

Nice! Good luck with the project.
How long do you think it will take for the whole process? And I bet its not easy to find parts these days.

Like pointed out on the previous post, it depends on how original you want to restore it to. Yes, original parts are quite difficult to get especially for the Jawas. Im restoring a 1962 Jawa and Im still in the process of collecting parts for it. Took me 5-6 months and Ive almost collected all parts. There are some parts that are quite impossible to get it here, like the original aluminium center stand and some of the rubber parts, which Im going to order online. Will start posting pics of the restorating once all the parts are in.

Cheers

Vicki_Rau · 13th March 2009, 22:12

After riding a YEZDI CLASSIC in Hyderabad for 8 years, heres my take :-
- you dont need a horn with a YEZDI whose muffler buttons have been removed, just that sweet beat is enough, didnt have a horn on my bike
- battery? what for - the tail light was the only thing I looked after, the brake light never worked properly. I still have memories of the feeble headlight at idling speed and the need to race the engine going round dark corners, in Banjara Hills, returning from the late show at Sangeet.
For your project I suggest
1. Get the neat headlight assembly including the pin/nail key(the thing used to pop up if you hit a pothole really hard).
2. GET THE ORIGINAL JAWA HANDLES, THEY ARE A PEACH(DO NOT REPEAT DO NOT GET THE YEZDI HANDLES).
3. Please get the JAVA tank(the teardrop one).The YEZDI tank is really ugly and was called the "ballbreaker" (mine were never impacted, inspite of some falls).
4. Remove that OG Green at the earliest. I remember JAVA had a dark brown which looks real neat.
5. Nothing beats the original YEZDI carb with the sliding sleeve.
For spares etc. try KING KOTHI where all the brokers have their shops. My mechanic ANWAR used to do only YEZDIS/JAVAS, wonder if
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Vicki_Rau · 13th March 2009, 22:14

After riding a YEZDI CLASSIC in Hyderabad for 8 years, heres my take :-
- you dont need a horn with a YEZDI whose muffler buttons have been removed, just that sweet beat is enough, didnt have a horn on my bike
- battery? what for - the tail light was the only thing I looked after, the brake light never worked properly. I still have memories of the feeble headlight at idling speed and the need to race the engine going round dark corners, in Banjara Hills, returning from the late show at Sangeet.
For your project I suggest
1. Get the neat headlight assembly including the pin/nail key(the thing used to pop up if you hit a pothole really hard).
2. GET THE ORIGINAL JAWA HANDLES, THEY ARE A PEACH(DO NOT REPEAT DO NOT GET THE YEZDI HANDLES).
3. Please get the JAVA tank(the teardrop one).The YEZDI tank is really ugly and was called the "ballbreaker" (mine were never impacted, inspite of some falls).
4. Remove that OG Green at the earliest. I remember JAVA had a dark brown which looks real neat.
5. Nothing beats the original YEZDI carb with the sliding sleeve.
For spares etc. try KING KOTHI where all the brokers have their shops. My mechanic ANWAR, who had a small shop in one of the gullies, used to do only YEZDIS/JAVAS, wonder if he is still there.
BEST OF LUCK ON YOUR PROJECT AND AVOIDING THE COPS DURING POLLUTION CHECK TIME

xxaarraa · 21st March 2009, 23:19

Here's an update after a long day at the mechanic.

Got the painted original tank fitted
Got original handlebar and painted semi-original headlight assembly fitted
Completely re-did the wiring. Now it has the 4 ignition settings while earlier it was all wired directly.
Got a 12V rectifier fitted. The old one was a 6V Kawasaki Bajaj rectifier that was toast. The new one looks different and the electrician assured me it was "yejdi." He didn't speak a word of English and I didn't speak a word of Telegu. It was an entertaining 60 minutes let me tell you. But I got it all now, parking lights, horn, tail light, high and low all on the 3 diferent key settings like its supposed to be. Question to all of you: It cant be as easy as just plonking in a bigger rectifier? What about wiring? Doesn't that have to be upgraded? Is it that easy to go from a 6V charging system to a 12v?
The mechanic set the clutch cable too tight and it broke off the entire clutch body within yards of the shop. So I had to get a new clutch body as well.

Which brings me to another point about the Indian mechanics I have interacted with so far for the Yezdi and the Karizma. They are all very trigger happy and their favorite tool of choice is the hammer. This guy had all these chisels of different shapes and sizes to use with his hammer. While they are very inventive and never give up, they lack any sort of finesse and regard for the paintwork. I spent so much time explaining to them how hammering everything or being careless with the wrench will chip the paint. They think I am weird.

Anyway, still to do: front mudguard.

srisha · 22nd March 2009, 13:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuffRyder

There are some parts that are quite impossible to get it here, like the original aluminium center stand and some of the rubber parts, which Im going to order online. Will start posting pics of the restorating once all the parts are in.

Cheers

Pat, Can we buy some for my twin as well? Are you buying these from Czech online store?

Srisha

lancer&shogun · 22nd March 2009, 13:39

@xxaarraa
Bike look awesome and how about posting a exhaust sound? love to hear that.

Cheers
L&S

24th February 2009, 09:32	#16
hillram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,942 Thanked: 1,326 Times View My Garage	Good restoration my friend.IS this the stock colour? Btw what are the speeds that you have achieved on this?
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25th February 2009, 19:48	#19
xxaarraa BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lot of places Posts: 140 Thanked: 5 Times	Front brakes done Changed the front brake shoes today. The axel nut was a bit** to get off! Had to hammer it out after plenty of WD-40. The brakes the old man sold me must be of a later or earlier model Jawa/Yezdi. They weren't a direct fit. I had to cut off half the hole and drill another. Anyway, they are on and the bike stops better. Attached Thumbnails
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2nd March 2009, 15:41	#20
sharanramesh BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 170 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	waiting for an update? what spark plug did u finalize on?
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5th March 2009, 19:06	#21
xxaarraa BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lot of places Posts: 140 Thanked: 5 Times	Got some new parts delivered today. Model 'B' Petrol tank + fuel tap Yezdi monograms and rubber inserts for tank Model 'B' head light nacelle Some automobile headlight cover and stainless steel rim Model 'B' handle bar Rubber grommets and other mounting items Total for all of these: 1650 delivered to my house. Still looking for a Model 'B' front mud guard, should get it tomorrow or day after. Will be dropping these off for painting early next week. Attached Thumbnails
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5th March 2009, 21:47	#22
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,766 Thanked: 9,054 Times	Cool man! That handlebar with welded on yokes is pretty hard to get new!
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5th March 2009, 22:18	#23
Nitin Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,294 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Nice! Good luck with the project. How long do you think it will take for the whole process? And I bet its not easy to find parts these days.
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13th March 2009, 22:12	#26
Vicki_Rau BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 88 Thanked: 5 Times	After riding a YEZDI CLASSIC in Hyderabad for 8 years, heres my take :- - you dont need a horn with a YEZDI whose muffler buttons have been removed, just that sweet beat is enough, didnt have a horn on my bike - battery? what for - the tail light was the only thing I looked after, the brake light never worked properly. I still have memories of the feeble headlight at idling speed and the need to race the engine going round dark corners, in Banjara Hills, returning from the late show at Sangeet. For your project I suggest 1. Get the neat headlight assembly including the pin/nail key(the thing used to pop up if you hit a pothole really hard). 2. GET THE ORIGINAL JAWA HANDLES, THEY ARE A PEACH(DO NOT REPEAT DO NOT GET THE YEZDI HANDLES). 3. Please get the JAVA tank(the teardrop one).The YEZDI tank is really ugly and was called the "ballbreaker" (mine were never impacted, inspite of some falls). 4. Remove that OG Green at the earliest. I remember JAVA had a dark brown which looks real neat. 5. Nothing beats the original YEZDI carb with the sliding sleeve. For spares etc. try KING KOTHI where all the brokers have their shops. My mechanic ANWAR used to do only YEZDIS/JAVAS, wonder if -
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13th March 2009, 22:14	#27
Vicki_Rau BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 88 Thanked: 5 Times	After riding a YEZDI CLASSIC in Hyderabad for 8 years, heres my take :- - you dont need a horn with a YEZDI whose muffler buttons have been removed, just that sweet beat is enough, didnt have a horn on my bike - battery? what for - the tail light was the only thing I looked after, the brake light never worked properly. I still have memories of the feeble headlight at idling speed and the need to race the engine going round dark corners, in Banjara Hills, returning from the late show at Sangeet. For your project I suggest 1. Get the neat headlight assembly including the pin/nail key(the thing used to pop up if you hit a pothole really hard). 2. GET THE ORIGINAL JAWA HANDLES, THEY ARE A PEACH(DO NOT REPEAT DO NOT GET THE YEZDI HANDLES). 3. Please get the JAVA tank(the teardrop one).The YEZDI tank is really ugly and was called the "ballbreaker" (mine were never impacted, inspite of some falls). 4. Remove that OG Green at the earliest. I remember JAVA had a dark brown which looks real neat. 5. Nothing beats the original YEZDI carb with the sliding sleeve. For spares etc. try KING KOTHI where all the brokers have their shops. My mechanic ANWAR, who had a small shop in one of the gullies, used to do only YEZDIS/JAVAS, wonder if he is still there. BEST OF LUCK ON YOUR PROJECT AND AVOIDING THE COPS DURING POLLUTION CHECK TIME
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21st March 2009, 23:19	#28
xxaarraa BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lot of places Posts: 140 Thanked: 5 Times	Here's an update after a long day at the mechanic. Got the painted original tank fitted Got original handlebar and painted semi-original headlight assembly fitted Completely re-did the wiring. Now it has the 4 ignition settings while earlier it was all wired directly. Got a 12V rectifier fitted. The old one was a 6V Kawasaki Bajaj rectifier that was toast. The new one looks different and the electrician assured me it was "yejdi." He didn't speak a word of English and I didn't speak a word of Telegu. It was an entertaining 60 minutes let me tell you. But I got it all now, parking lights, horn, tail light, high and low all on the 3 diferent key settings like its supposed to be. Question to all of you: It cant be as easy as just plonking in a bigger rectifier? What about wiring? Doesn't that have to be upgraded? Is it that easy to go from a 6V charging system to a 12v? The mechanic set the clutch cable too tight and it broke off the entire clutch body within yards of the shop. So I had to get a new clutch body as well. Which brings me to another point about the Indian mechanics I have interacted with so far for the Yezdi and the Karizma. They are all very trigger happy and their favorite tool of choice is the hammer. This guy had all these chisels of different shapes and sizes to use with his hammer. While they are very inventive and never give up, they lack any sort of finesse and regard for the paintwork. I spent so much time explaining to them how hammering everything or being careless with the wrench will chip the paint. They think I am weird. Anyway, still to do: front mudguard. Attached Thumbnails
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22nd March 2009, 13:39	#30
lancer&shogun BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Back in Chennai Posts: 148 Thanked: 2 Times	@xxaarraa Bike look awesome and how about posting a exhaust sound? love to hear that. Cheers L&S
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