TBTS: need help to fix a slip-sliding feeling

Rollin' Thunda · 16th May 2010, 13:52

Hi,

Today, when I was on a ride I noticed that my 2009 TBTS was not responding properly during direction changes. The rear-wheel seemed to to be slipping/sliding a little bit every time. I though I had a flat tire, and stopped to check. There was no flat, but I noticed that the entire rear-wheel assembly had developed some side-ways 'play', i.e., it moved side-ways by about 5 mm when pushed.

I tightened all the nuts in sight that seemed relevant, but no change. Does anyone know what may be the cause? It seems unsafe to ride at high speeds with this problem.

akas_chauhan · 16th May 2010, 14:22

What about a wheel alignment then. I think that should solve the issue and how much tyre pressure you keep in both tyres.

Randhawa · 16th May 2010, 15:36

Probably your swing-arm bushes are gone. Get them replaced, hardly takes 20min to change them.

Rollin' Thunda · 16th May 2010, 16:22

Akas, Randhawa, thanks for the quick responses. I'll take it to the RE service centre and get it fixed.

I had the standard 22(F)/32(R) tire pressure, as I always have. I don't think that is the problem.

Randhawa · 16th May 2010, 20:19

Na man, the pressure you are keeping is just fine.

jeeva · 26th May 2010, 11:04

Even though its not yet time for the swing arm bushes to give away, do check it.
I suspect the wheel bearings.

bblost · 26th May 2010, 11:51

Also check the spokes. Are they tight enough and is there any bend in the rim.

alpha1 · 26th May 2010, 17:27

Was there a pillion rider?

howler · 26th May 2010, 17:31

your wheel bearings are busted.

bblost · 26th May 2010, 17:39

Also check if the tire is sitting correctly in the rim.
There will be a line on the tire less than a cm from the rim. The distance between the rim and this line must be a constant.

Also there will be tire alignment thing on both sides.
It will have these tiny notches. The number of notches on both sides must be equal.

Both these checks can be done without any dismantling.

Rollin' Thunda · 26th May 2010, 21:28

jeeva, bblost, alpha1, howler,

Thanks! that gives me a lot of options to suggest. I was away the past week and didn't take it yet to the mechanic. I will, in a day or two.

vivekiny2k · 26th May 2010, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by howler

your wheel bearings are busted.

from the symptoms this seems more likely. I have had this in my bicycle years ago and can totally relate to that.

Randhawa · 26th May 2010, 22:49

Does the whole swingarm along with tyre moves sideways or just the tyre? If the whole thing moves then the bushes and if not then probably the bearings.

madhkris · 27th May 2010, 06:40

Hi Rollin' Thunda. Did you get the bike checked? What seems to be the problem?

KA18 · 27th May 2010, 09:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by madhkris

Did you get the bike checked? What seems to be the problem?

Relax man, he just posted yesterday night that he will get it checked in a day or two. Check the time of reply.

16th May 2010, 13:52	#1
Rollin' Thunda BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: now Hyderabad Posts: 288 Thanked: 94 Times	TBTS: need help to fix a slip-sliding feeling Hi, Today, when I was on a ride I noticed that my 2009 TBTS was not responding properly during direction changes. The rear-wheel seemed to to be slipping/sliding a little bit every time. I though I had a flat tire, and stopped to check. There was no flat, but I noticed that the entire rear-wheel assembly had developed some side-ways 'play', i.e., it moved side-ways by about 5 mm when pushed. I tightened all the nuts in sight that seemed relevant, but no change. Does anyone know what may be the cause? It seems unsafe to ride at high speeds with this problem.
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16th May 2010, 14:22	#2
akas_chauhan BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Antonio Posts: 596 Thanked: 25 Times	What about a wheel alignment then. I think that should solve the issue and how much tyre pressure you keep in both tyres.
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16th May 2010, 15:36	#3
Randhawa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brighton Posts: 1,193 Thanked: 355 Times	Probably your swing-arm bushes are gone. Get them replaced, hardly takes 20min to change them.
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16th May 2010, 16:22	#4
Rollin' Thunda BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: now Hyderabad Posts: 288 Thanked: 94 Times	Akas, Randhawa, thanks for the quick responses. I'll take it to the RE service centre and get it fixed. I had the standard 22(F)/32(R) tire pressure, as I always have. I don't think that is the problem.
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16th May 2010, 20:19	#5
Randhawa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brighton Posts: 1,193 Thanked: 355 Times	Na man, the pressure you are keeping is just fine.
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26th May 2010, 11:04	#6
jeeva BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DXB / Nilgiris Posts: 769 Thanked: 1,278 Times View My Garage	Even though its not yet time for the swing arm bushes to give away, do check it. I suspect the wheel bearings.
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26th May 2010, 11:51	#7
bblost Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 11,008 Thanked: 15,355 Times View My Garage	Also check the spokes. Are they tight enough and is there any bend in the rim.
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26th May 2010, 17:27	#8
alpha1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: LandOfNoWinters Posts: 2,093 Thanked: 2,605 Times	Was there a pillion rider?
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26th May 2010, 17:31	#9
howler BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: coorg/bangalore Posts: 447 Thanked: 570 Times	your wheel bearings are busted.
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26th May 2010, 17:39	#10
bblost Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 11,008 Thanked: 15,355 Times View My Garage	Also check if the tire is sitting correctly in the rim. There will be a line on the tire less than a cm from the rim. The distance between the rim and this line must be a constant. Also there will be tire alignment thing on both sides. It will have these tiny notches. The number of notches on both sides must be equal. Both these checks can be done without any dismantling.
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26th May 2010, 21:28	#11
Rollin' Thunda BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: now Hyderabad Posts: 288 Thanked: 94 Times	jeeva, bblost, alpha1, howler, Thanks! that gives me a lot of options to suggest. I was away the past week and didn't take it yet to the mechanic. I will, in a day or two.
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26th May 2010, 22:49	#13
Randhawa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brighton Posts: 1,193 Thanked: 355 Times	Does the whole swingarm along with tyre moves sideways or just the tyre? If the whole thing moves then the bushes and if not then probably the bearings.
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27th May 2010, 06:40	#14
madhkris BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bengalur Posts: 292 Thanked: 83 Times View My Garage	Hi Rollin' Thunda. Did you get the bike checked? What seems to be the problem?
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