TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS launched! First Indian bike with ABS

amit_purohit20 · 15th March 2011, 21:45

One can just watch the ABS video on youtube on an RTR180 and understand why a ABS is so important for a motorbike. I can strongly say a ABS is far important in a motorbike as compared to a car because in a motorbike we dont have balance like a car.ABS is a must in slippery conditions normally prevailing on wet indian roads.
I myself own a White RTR180 presently after a 8 year use of Old workhorse TVS Victor and i can vouch for TVS reliability,no nonsense bikes and great performance.I had recently taken a TVS RTR 180 to ladakh and it has proven its reliability by being niggle proof.
Yes the tyres need to Improve especially for the wet conditions.

dhanushs · 16th March 2011, 02:34

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Originally Posted by devarshi84

When the wheels lock. The suspension moves ahead hence we get what we call a wheelie. But this does not stop the bike from skidding forward and covering distance.

When the wheels do not lock, the suspension is still travelling forward. Hence the distance travelled is less and the rear does not lift up.

This is my understanding but I might be wrong.

Actually, its called a stoppie.

Also, stoppies without wheel lock is done by careful progressive braking and along with that the driver shifts the weight from the back to front in a progressive manner, so that the rear lifts off the ground even though the front tyre rolls.

For a normal driver, a stoppie can 'occur' of he 'slams' the discs. As here ABS is installed, the tyre cannot lock and hence, unexpected stoppies can be avoided.

Yes, as rehaan mentioned, i guess its a by product of ABS. Not sure about the technical details though.

Sutripta · 16th March 2011, 21:35

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Originally Posted by Mpower

Hmm...yes like a rolling stoppie?..Not sure how they can prevent that without bleeding pressure from the front brakes....and that would hurt retardation like you said.

Two contradictory chains of thought for rolling stoppies:

A) Loosing the contribution of the rear wheel. Keeping the rear wheel on the ground should help shortening braking distance.

B) All the weight is on the front wheel. So care two hoots about the rear wheel.

Think will need more than 'thinking through' (ie will require some real maths) to come to a conclusion.

Also, how will a system (ecu) 'know' that a rear wheel has lifted. Accelerometers will not help. Gyros possibly. Any definitive answers.

Regards
Sutripta

Mpower · 16th March 2011, 21:42

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Originally Posted by Sutripta

Also, how will a system (ecu) 'know' that a rear wheel has lifted. Accelerometers will not help. Gyros possibly. Any definitive answers.

U can use a suspension travel indicator which will show max rebound. Such a device is already used in cars for headlight adjustment.

Sutripta · 17th March 2011, 06:39

^^^
Simple! Yes, that would work.

Regards
Sutripta

Steve_Austin · 17th March 2011, 15:28

Maybe slightly OT here, however thought should share:

BUMMER: BIGGER CAPACITY TVS APACHE RTR220/250 NOT HAPPENING IN 2011!

http://www.indiancarsbikes.in/motorc...ng-2011-32565/

shridhar.s.i · 20th March 2011, 08:46

Hey Folks,
I have one question here, is it possible to fix this ABS system on existing Apache Bikes, mine is EFI with front + rear disks,
As many have said earlier, it does skid on wet tarmac so having ABS for bikes is definitely an advantage
Please advise

highsteem · 3rd June 2011, 17:35

Recently looked into the tvs motors web site and I see that abs being advertised for delivery

I am so happy for TVS. Have applied for test drive through the web and yet to hear from the closest dealer

Will update you guys if I happened to test drive one.

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amit_purohit20 BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 676 Thanked: 902 Times	Re: TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS launched! First Indian bike with ABS One can just watch the ABS video on youtube on an RTR180 and understand why a ABS is so important for a motorbike. I can strongly say a ABS is far important in a motorbike as compared to a car because in a motorbike we dont have balance like a car.ABS is a must in slippery conditions normally prevailing on wet indian roads. I myself own a White RTR180 presently after a 8 year use of Old workhorse TVS Victor and i can vouch for TVS reliability,no nonsense bikes and great performance.I had recently taken a TVS RTR 180 to ladakh and it has proven its reliability by being niggle proof. Yes the tyres need to Improve especially for the wet conditions. Last edited by amit_purohit20 : 15th March 2011 at 21:49. Reason: More points to be added
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Sutripta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Calcutta Posts: 4,668 Thanked: 6,217 Times	Re: 2c ^^^ Simple! Yes, that would work. Regards Sutripta
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Steve_Austin BHPian Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 74 Thanked: Once	Re: TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS launched! First Indian bike with ABS Maybe slightly OT here, however thought should share: BUMMER: BIGGER CAPACITY TVS APACHE RTR220/250 NOT HAPPENING IN 2011! http://www.indiancarsbikes.in/motorc...ng-2011-32565/
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shridhar.s.i BHPian Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 208 Thanked: 112 Times View My Garage	Re: TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS launched! First Indian bike with ABS Hey Folks, I have one question here, is it possible to fix this ABS system on existing Apache Bikes, mine is EFI with front + rear disks, As many have said earlier, it does skid on wet tarmac so having ABS for bikes is definitely an advantage Please advise
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3rd June 2011, 17:35	#38
highsteem BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 123 Thanked: 13 Times	Re: TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS launched! First Indian bike with ABS Recently looked into the tvs motors web site and I see that abs being advertised for delivery I am so happy for TVS. Have applied for test drive through the web and yet to hear from the closest dealer Will update you guys if I happened to test drive one.
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