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I bought the ZX CVT model in September 2023 from Brigade Honda Bangalore. Got the Golden Brown (not my favorite color but for expediency). It has run close to 10K km and overall I love the car for its smooth ride and overall comfort (I am ~65, sedate driver and most of the time its just me and my wife in the car).

One issue I have faced is with the horn. Within 3 months after purchase I had one of the horns (it has two) go bad. Brigade Honda repaired it. At that time I asked if the horn could be replaced with a Bosch one I purchased from Amazon (had read somewhere that someone had got it replaced at their Honda dealer). They tried and said it doesn't fit in the space for the horn.

Last week after the 10K service, the horn problem recurred. They fixed it again but this time, on their own, they said they will replace it under warranty. The part is ordered and will get fixed sometime next week.

The door/tire noise is also an issue that I would like to address. I would like any references for door damping outfits in Bangalore (preferable North Bangalore). Thanks.

In my case, the tyre noise (OEM Bridgestone) has become insignificant after crossing 1500 kms. I am running with 33 psi for all the tyres. Please check whether the tyre pressure is correct.

Wind noise insulation is not great, but it is not as worse as it has been projected. Then my driving speed is around 80 to 90 kmph. I don’t know whether the wind noise becomes more at very high speeds. I faced one issue just a couple of times only and that was a faint whistling sound heard from the right hand A-Pillar side. Again, not a worrisome thing. Even other wise I am also curious if any one from Bangalore has added some damping to the door panels.

I too run at 33 psi all tires (Bridgestones) and am at ~10,000 km now.

Hi I just took delivery of the same ZX CVT. I will do the mileage test and update shortly what mileage i am getting. Do speak to the service advisor and update what are their comments? For what we have read and discussed in this forum, mileage of 11-12kmpl is average everyone is getting.

I have an elevate V CVT. I drive from Noida to Gurgaon or from Noida to Dwarka and back. My car is used 2-3 days a week. It is also new and clicked very few kms (less than 3000).
I drive during non-peak hrs where a 30 kms drive takes about 1 hr of time. I am getting 12-14 kmpl on this route. I did some highway runs on Noida-greater Noida expressway at 70-80 kmph and I don't remember exactly but I think I got 16-18 kmpl. I used regular hp fuel and don't do unnecessary acceleration and braking.

I used to keep it a ACC earlier with temperature set to 25-26. Then somebody told me to not use ACC as it consumes more resources and keep it manual. I switched it to manual only 2 months back.

I am still getting 6.9-7.1 mileage (tank to tank and not MID) for local runs. Maintaining tyre pressure and using engine braking and mostly sedated.

Yes manual AC controls consumes more fuel due to the continuous usage, AUTO AC is fuel saving always, ideal at around 24°C depending upon the outside temperature.

As you're getting decent figures on long trips, it's safe to say there is no issue with your car or driving style.

Recently I had noticed a huge drop in fuel efficiency on my wife's Micra, the car used to return 450km (35L) on full tank, suddenly dropped it to 230-260km in the peak summer. While our other car, Honda CIVIC 1.6 CVT was not experiencing any significant drop on similar usage, car was always kept in basement/ mall parking .

After checking multiple factors realized that the reason was open area parking during daytime in the summer heat as the main issue. After that started picking up parking space away from the sun and using windshield shades, the full tank range significantly improved to around 350-380km in the peak summer city usage with 100% AC.

Reset your trip meter, set auto ac , always drive in D mode , keep revs low throughout the trips, park under shades or basements and check in next 2 half tanks or 10L fill ups :thumbs up.

Hi,
This is the first time i am owning and driving a HONDA CVT car. I have a few questions to which answers would be much appreciated -

1. I have watched many YT videos that say never to put a CVT car in neutral mode while waiting at a traffic light or in traffic. Car should be in D mode with brakes applied. Why cant we put in neutral and release the brake? wont this save us the pain of holding our legs in traffic conditions and also save fuel? What harm could it do if we put in N mode instead of D mode in bumper to bumper traffic?

2. While parking the car, it is advised to first shift from D to N and then from N to P. When the shift occurs to N, pull up the hand brake then shift to P. Is pulling up the hand brake necessary?

3. When to use the shift levers? From N to D we can switch without using the shift levers, but what about in other situations.

When you move to N gear box is not locked hence its not recommended to move to N with brakes released, I drive elevate CVT as well, what I usually do in traffic signals is move to N and engage parking brake. Further reason why its not recommended to shift to N it stop is very short time is because of the fact that most of the people try to move as fast as possible and tend to accelerate bit hard before even shift is done from N --> D and this is not good for gearbox

Again the reason purely is based on how you drive, shifting to N is advised for someone who is always in hurry.
When you move to P gearbox get locked and if someone tries to move to P before vehicle is in standstill is not good for gear box.
So ideally if you ensure that vehicle is completely standstill its completely fine to move from D to P

This is documented in vehicle manual

[quote=karan888;5810320] I drive elevate CVT as well, what I usually do in traffic signals is move to N and engage parking brake]

Thanks for your inputs. I was also putting the gear to N while in long traffic and signals
With the handbrake on. I will then continue to do so as when I accelerate I ensure I am doing it very gently.


[quote=karan888;5810320] So ideally if you ensure that vehicle is completely standstill its completely fine to move from D to P]

A question here - when you start the ignition, and when you downshift from P to R to N to D, do you hear any clicks/jerk of the gear? Is it normal? If not then what am I doing wrong here?

Is it advisable to go N first and wait for a few seconds before putting the gear to R or D mode and start driving?

When you start the car, you will feel a slight jerk when you move from N to D or P to D - if brake is not pressed.

To prevent this, always press brake and then move to D or to R. Also, when you start the car after a long stop, the car runs at a slightly higher RPM to bring the engine upto a good temperature. In that scenario, the jerk will be slightly more.

Where have you seen this video? Can you share the link. From what I've read and seen videos on, most recommend moving to N in traffic light stops if the stop is more than 10 seconds.

You mean the little release button? It is there to prevent accidental or non deliberate movements. In some Manual cars, you need to depress the gear knob or even lift some little ring to move into reverse (Fiats/Skodas).

[quote=jerk_free;5810617] Where have you seen this video? Can you share the link.]

Hi, here are the links -

https://youtu.be/DNh_2BHVJo4?si=P9OQ7skJcYWksqqw

https://youtu.be/YrtxzgAR1js?si=n3cL-IhQJLPkjOOQ

Is it completely safe to move the gear from D TO S while the car is in motion? In situations when I want slightly more power to overtake?

Is it also ok to pull the handbrake in D mode when stationary at lights for less than 30 seconds? Would it do any damage to the brake pads?

Is it really a jerk in vehicle or is it just high engine speed?
Ideally as jerk_free mentioned if brakes are fully pressed you shouldn't experience any issue.

Also in petrol cars we have three way catalyst and its operating temperature is very high. So in order to increase the exhaust temperature asap, engine is made to runs at high speed and low efficiency for initial few seconds to generate more heat, also you will notice that engine speed is higher in P or N(during catalyst heating) compared to D may be this could be the reason you are experiencing slightly different behavior when you are moving from P to D. In short there is absolutely no issues shifting from P to D, also now a days ECU's in car's are getting more and more smarter and have lot of prechecks already which ensure damage to components are as less as possible.

I am planning to do the horn upgrade too. Did you (or anyone else here) assess any other brands or models? How do I compare different units? What specifications of a horn do I look at? The local car accessories shop says he has only Lumax and Blaupunkt branded horns, and does not have Hella, Uno-Minda or Bosch.

Yes, as said in the owner's manual, you can shift the gear from D to S or S to D in motion without pressing the brakes. In my opinion, S mode is not meant for quick acceleration. Instead, if you want extra power while overtaking, just downshift with paddle shifters in D mode. It will return to normal mode on its own in D mode after use.

Forget those videos, it is not recommended to pull the handbrake in D mode when stationary at lights for less than 30 seconds. It's advisable to use N for long stops with the foot on the brakes.