[Nithesh_M]

The Elevate V in 2023 costs less than a Creta S from 2 years ago when I bought it. Infact the Elevate V is only a small change above todays Creta EX ex showroom price.

Creta EX 1.5 NA or Elevate V 1.5NA? Not a tough choice is it? No wonder Honda is reporting most bookings are happening for their V and ZX variants.

If the Elevate was out in 2021 I wouldn't even have considered the Koreans. Alas I couldn't postpone my car purchase any longer so bought the Creta. Is the Elevate worth the exchange now? Maybe not. But it is tempting for sure.

[sidane3000]

I personally feel Elevate pricing is not bad considering the Honda brand value and its engine reliability. I have been looking for a reliable automatic car for my Dad to replace his Ertiga who stays in Mumbai. He does not care about the features and personally me too. Just opt for the must have features like backup camera, rear wipers and defoggers, decent infotainment screen and keyless entry. I feel VX is a better buy because he does not want ADAS and there is no physical button to turn it off. Might wait a few months to see if they make the 6 airbags standard in India.

Just my 2 cents for the people complaining about less features. The more the electronics these manufacturers pack into these cars the more they will bite you later in future. Trust me on this because I own a Mercedes in the US and have experienced the horror when something does not work as expected. For example if the automatic seat adjuster stops working you are stuck driving in that position until its fixed. Focus on required features and spend more time on deciding which engine and gear box suits you the most. Unwanted features are a gimmick which will surely spoil the long term ownership. Dont buy a vehicle just because it offers more features.

[Nayra]

Originally Posted by ashis89

Apologies, I will then take back my words about cost cutting. This is bad design.

Genuine questions. Have you personally sat in the seats?
What would your opinion be about the fact that the rear comfort have been categorically stated to be one of, if not the best in segment in despite the "bad design"?
Does the Seltos or any other competitor being less comfortable despite having the side bolsters make it a better design?.Needless to say, I rest my case.

The pricing certainly caught me off guard (WHY HONDA c'mon) and the variant distribution looks like it was decided by a bunch of drunk apes.
But
For people looking for a car
1) Safer than the Koreans,
2) Better dynamics and engine than the and the Suzu-yota Twins,
3) Better reliability than the Germans,
4) Better after sales support than the Indians,
The Elevate is the one they would choose. Would not be surprised to see a whole lot of people in their late 40s-early 50s picking this one up.

Regardless of the "cost-cutting," the Elevate excels in the basic fundamentals of what it takes to be a good car compared to its rivals, namely reliability, driving dynamics, comfort and a solid bullet proof engine.
Do I wish it had all the gimmicks and bells and whistles offered by the competition? Yes, certainly. Alas, the world is not perfect, but at the end of the day, this will be a car that we will see frequently on the streets decades from now, running perfectly, just as we do with any Honda ever made. To most people, that is why they buy a Honda.

[Nithesh_M]

Originally Posted by Paritoshkalra

Quiz for BHPians - Tell me one Car in Indian market (apart from Elevate) which is sold for 18 lakhs onroad and does not have Cruise Control?

Tata Harrier XE and XM variants. XE is 19.3lakhs on road here and XM is well over 20 lakhs on road.

[ComboCutter]

Visited the local dealership to look at the Elevate, as Me and my mom were out nearby. The SA was cordial and shared the on-road price list for TN also after our interaction.

The ZX version is properly equipped and was good exterior and interior wise. The driver seat felt a little cramped (I'm over 6 foot), will know better after a Test drive. under thigh support felt ok in the rear and the seats were comfortable (Mom really liked the interior and seating). More than adequate space for rear passengers with the front seats adjusted for me. Sunroof could have bigger and better placed or, even better, not there at all.

Discussed the features with the SA, he did confirm the cruise control (normal/adaptive) option is NOT available in variants other than ZX. Same case with the rear armrest (Why Honda?! with its raised-middle rear bench this exclusion is really odd.) Six/four airbags in the V/VX variants would have been amazing.

Pricing is decent but as mentioned above anything other than V/ZX calls for a compromise from the purchaser. They could have added more airbags in the lower and mid variants, they are likely to score a higher safety rating than the Koreans but this would have given them more talking points.

Introducing an ADAS-less Z variant could have takers (with more airbags and interior bling).

To me it looks like they have taken steps to protect their City sales (likely soften until their SUV lineup picks-up). Why? - They could have added ADAS across the lineup and commanded a premium. - Compared to the Elevate, City feels more VFM.

If I was in the market for mid size SUV automatic with a 20l budget i would go for (1) Seltos HTX IVT (2) Honda Elevate ZX (3) Kushaq Ambition 1.0 (4) Grand Vitara Zeta AT (the C3 Aircross has the chance to slot in before Honda here - if at all they launch their TC automatics by the start of 2024)

Elevate is a close second here, has the upper hand in reliability and market perception.

[Samegoodkid]

Honda missed out a trick by ruling out Hybrids. That could have been the differentiation that would have set it apart from the rivals.
I don’t see “Elevate” being a sales dud but it would not set the sales chart on fire either. What it will do is give a bit of breathing space to Honda. I see this doing 1500-2000 units per month and Honda probably would be happy with it.

For a current Jazz owner, looking for upgrade in a couple of years, what’s next Honda?

[autonmus_drivr]

Intuitively most people have felt that the under thigh support is a bit lacking in the Elevate. I too felt the same, especially in the second row.

However, haven't seen an objective view of how much lesser is the length compared to others, say City and Elevate's direct competition.

Has anyone measured or seen any reviewers publish this data? I haven't found this so far.

Thanks in advance!

[SaiSW]

They could've either gone the efficiency way or the performance way. Seltos turbo is oriented towards the latter while the Hycross engine is oriented towards the former. Problem with the Elevate is that it's not oriented towards both. It's not exceptionally efficient and it's not as fast as the Koreans.

What could go in it's favour though (compared to the Seltos) is, reliability, fuss free ownership and Honda brand name. I am pretty sure that it will be more reliable and easier to own than the Korean turbo petrols. I have 3 Seltos turbos in my immediate friends and family circle and all of them have been problematic to own, from DCT issues to awkward engine rpms at times etc etc.

[CoconutCar]

Hello everyone,

I intended only to read through the feedback on Elevate's pricing, but going through the thread has sort of created an itch to post.

Disclaimer - I am not a Honda fanboy/loyalist. Driving Fiesta and Innova from last many years. I have never owned a Honda (But drove a CR-V and the old arrow design City), but I have heard many good things about Honda ownership experiences from other people

The pricing of Elevate is mighty fine. Some people want the car for free. People want 20Lakh feel for 15 Lakh payment. Or 15 lakh equipment for 8Lakh payment. Arguments like customer is king/we have choice etc are mute when one refuses to acknowledge what the product is at hand.

All cars are not for everyone. Every buyer looks for different things in their car.

A car is a like a cocktail. Everyone has different tastes

When a person is dissatisfied with a car's pricing/features, It does not automatically translate Into - 'product is botched'. It is a matter of what is the 'taste' of that customer. And that differs, from person to person, and that is why we have different car brands with different philosophies, so that all tastes are catered to. Market has space and place for everything and everyone. Basic analysis of City, Slavia's and Verna's sale tell us that people decide car on taste. Same will be for Elevate/Creta/Seltos etc.

What is taste?, It is what people value most in their car. Comfort, tech, convenience, performance, design etc. In unique order. Elevate is a fine car on all these parameters. On some it's good, on some it excellent while on some It just satisfies the benchmark.



Rest, It is the market that is the ultimate arbiter and judge.

Elevate will attract three type of customers
1) who have tastes for a Honda
2) who want something different from the crowd's Creta/Seltos
3) who are fed up of long waiting times of other models (Creta/Hyryder)

[axe_deo]

Honda elevate is going to be a success because of its competitive pricing. Elevate ZX CVT is almost 2 lakh cheaper than Creta SX(O) IVT. Although Elevate misses out on a lot of features e.g. ventilated seats, panoramic sunroof, electric parking brake, powered seats, etc., the lower price justifies it.
Also elevate gets a few features not present in creta e.g. ADAS, wireless android auto, etc.

[Rohan1511]

Originally Posted by Nayra

Genuine questions. Have you personally sat in the seats?

The pricing certainly caught me off guard (WHY HONDA c'mon) and the variant distribution looks like it was decided by a bunch of drunk apes.
But
For people looking for a car
1) Safer than the Koreans,
2) Better dynamics and engine than the and the Suzu-yota Twins,
3) Better reliability than the Germans,
4) Better after sales support than the Indians,
The Elevate is the one they would choose. Would not be surprised to see a whole lot of people in their late 40s-early 50s picking this one up.

Being a Honda loyal customer and late twenties, i'll be picking this no nonsense car over the Koreans and the TwinningYota's.
No, i don't need ventilated seats, No, i don't need a panoramic sunroof, and certainly not car which is a smartphone.

I just need a no nonsense engine which the IVTEC has proved numerous times already.

If there was a Padma Bushan for automobiles, IVTEC would have gotten it already since 3rd gen.

For me the heart of the car is always an engine, not tacky gimmicks like ventilated seats and whatnot.

Also for those who are daring enough to put Elevate with Sonet etc, think again very carefully. These are completely different segments.

[DCEite]

Elevate has to be the most disappointing launch of 2023.

- 6 Airbags and cruise control only on the top variant. Are you kidding me, Honda ?

- Narrow cabin suited for only 4. Remember, in India, the bigger, the better ?

- ADAS only on the top variant. Again, why Honda, why ? If you could introduce ADAS in the City from second base, what stopped you in the Elevate ?

- The top variant (which is the only variant worth buying IMO), at 16 lacs ex showroom is not value for money.

- CVT is good. But the dated engine is NOT. Enough of the same 1.5 VTEC since last 15 years, the Indian customer wants something newer and exciting (take some inspiration from Hyundai / Kia 1.5 Turbo please).

- The less I talk about the features, the better, Honda. You disappointed us bigtime.

[zeus_700]

Quiz for BHPians - Tell me one Car in Indian market (apart from Elevate) which is sold for 18 lakhs onroad and does not have Cruise Control?[/quote]

XUV 700 Ax5 which costs almost 25 Lacs on road.

[HartBandit]

Originally Posted by Paritoshkalra

Quiz for BHPians - Tell me one Car in Indian market (apart from Elevate) which is sold for 18 lakhs onroad and does not have Cruise Control?

Compass Sport and Night Eagle Variants - costing almost 30 lakh rupees on road.

[TribalRoar]

I am noticing that the ex-showroom price of the variants V/VX of the city and the Elevate are basically identical with a few give or take. But looking at the features, the compromises on the Elevate seem to be grotesquely disproportionate in my view, especially the VX. The missing features on the Elevate on these variants are:

1. Adaptive cruise control
2. TPMS
3. ADAS
4. 4 Airbags
5. Colored analog instrument cluster on City (V)
6. Rear armrest.
7. Fog lamps (V)
8. Alloys on the City (V)
9. Fabric door inserts
10. Rear middle passenger headrest.

Does anyone have an informed view as to why there is this apparently egregious disparity of value proposition on these variants?

P.S. By the way my local honda outlet is directy asking Rs. 8000 premium if I choose the white pearl color. This apparently applies to all Honda models. Please let me know if this is the case in other showrooms in the country.