[carhead]

Newly launched Summer Apex model has 360 camera. This is a welcome addition. If one buys a ventilated seat 'jugad' solution then most crucial features are covered.

Missing points- (Useless) panoramic roof
Hybrid, Diesel & Turbo Petrol engines

Largely complete package. definitely no comparision for Creta / Seltos top models which are also 15-20% more expensive.

[Onthemove]

Originally Posted by carhead

Newly launched Summer Apex model has 360 camera. This is a welcome addition. If one buys a ventilated seat 'jugad' solution then most crucial features are covered.

Missing points- (Useless) panoramic roof
Hybrid, Diesel & Turbo Petrol engines

Largely complete package. definitely no comparision for Creta / Seltos top models which are also 15-20% more expensive.

Till date Honda India hasn't been able to confirm if this 360 degree camera can be retro fitted into the existing cars. I have mailed them as well as called customer care and they don't have clarity as to whether this accessory can be made available for the existing cars. The dealer too doesn't have a clue.

Though they have been widely advertising it, they aren't ready to provide a concrete answer to this.

[FlyingHelmet]

I asked my dealer Landmark who sold me the Elevate regarding Summer Apex edition, he mentioned that the camera and modifications are coming with V variant only, just to sell the pending stocks. It won't be available as an accessory.

[Paritoshkalra]

Originally Posted by FlyingHelmet

I asked my dealer Landmark who sold me the Elevate regarding Summer Apex edition, he mentioned that the camera and modifications are coming with V variant only, just to sell the pending stocks. It won't be available as an accessory.

Looks like Updated/Facelifted Elevate might be around the corner by end of 2025.

[FlyingHelmet]

Originally Posted by Paritoshkalra

Looks like Updated/Facelifted Elevate might be around the corner by end of 2025.

Dont think so. Honda has a habit of releasing facelift only after 5 years in the recent past. Can't see new Elevate till 2027 at least. Good for buyers also.

The reason I don't like Kia, you buy a Kia car on Monday and they would release a new facelift by Friday.

[carhead]

Originally Posted by Paritoshkalra

Looks like Updated/Facelifted Elevate might be around the corner by end of 2025.

If true then good since speed in executing changes is not something Honda is known for.

Originally Posted by FlyingHelmet

Don't think so. Honda has a habit of releasing facelift only after 5 years in the recent past.

No harm if they adapt and take corrective action. Facelift wont entail major sheet-metal work changes and other capex intensive modifications.

[Paritoshkalra]

Originally Posted by carhead

If true then good since speed in executing changes is not something Honda is known for.


No harm if they adapt and take corrective action. Facelift wont entail major sheet-metal work changes and other capex intensive modifications.

With the ENGINE, they are still old school in their approach. Same 1.5 NA Engine on offer in Elevate which was being sold 10-15 yrs back. However, with the inclusion of ADAS, Honda has forgot to offer the old-school Cruise control in their cars. Only ADAS version gets the Cruise Control (Adaptive). However not sure what their R & D team has done to their variant lineup? They have forgot the old school Cruise control feature and wiped it off completely in their cars. Did anyone notice this? Same is the issue with City Variants and Elevate Variants now.

Both City and Elevate's V and VX variants do not have a simple Cruise Control? Why would anyone pay 17 lakhs on-road for such a vehicle in 2025?
I owned a 2014 City V in the past and it was an amazing car. Altough I sold it off few yrs back. In 2014, Honda City itself used to sell for more than 7500 cars per month. But now, Honda's complete lineup of cars is not able to sell more than 3500 cars per month ! The Difference in sales no.s is huge.

[Circuit10]

Originally Posted by amandal1810

Hi all. I upgraded the windshield wipers to Bosch Clear Advantage.

Hi now that the monsoon is round the corner in mumbai, i am about to replace the old wipers. Could you please help me to know the size of backside wiper as well? Thanks!

[Onthemove]

Honda Elevate sees lowest monthly sales in April: 935 units

Launched 20 months ago, the petrol-engined Elevate did well to bring Honda back into the ‘game’ the company was missing out for long with only two sedans on sale. However, in India’s ultra-competitive midsize SUV market bristling with rivals which offer plenty more in terms of features and powertrains, the Elevate has been found falling short. The Elevate’s export story is a huge success story though.

https://www.autocarpro.in/analysis-s...5-units-126477

Elevate doesn't seem to be paying off for HONDA on the domestic front, but exports have been hogging the limelight.

[amandal1810]

Originally Posted by Circuit10

Hi now that the monsoon is round the corner in mumbai, i am about to replace the old wipers. Could you please help me to know the size of backside wiper as well? Thanks!

I did not replace the rear wiper. I felt the rear wiper to be adequate, so did not replace it.

[SpeedBird]

I recently bought Honda City 5th gen ZX MT R (facelift version) and yet to write a very detailed review on it (work in progress!), but will tell you the experience as a Honda with ADAS owner from a manual gearbox perspective.

Originally Posted by aaren

Even if citiies, CMBS used to give out audio and visual warnings but won't enforce anything.

It will enforce even in cities, with as low as 2kmph speed!! I was once in a bumper to bumper traffic in a metro pole city and suddenly a lady ran in between the space of my car and the car ahead, from right to left. ADAS managed to detect her and applied strong brakes, vibrated the brake pedals like a stick shaker warning in aeroplane to warn of a stall!, and kept the brakes applied for 2 seconds with the vibration. Couldn't observe if it did apply clutch also automatically, but it does everything to avoid collision, EVEN IN A MANUAL GEARBOX CAR!! Excellent ADAS, especially considering the fact that its camera based.

Originally Posted by aaren

the ADAS camera appears to observe things / objects on a straight line ahead and not as the car is turning.

Yes, this is a flaw and Honda needs to work on this. Especially for banking and turning roads, it will start detecting from the lanes besides and slows down when not necessary. Given that it can't see the back of the car, it may well lead to collision from behind due to sudden braking. ADAS is to be considered just as an assistant and not a replacement. Always be aware of the road and traffic, don't leave the steering even when LKAS is activated. Be in close proximity to the steering wheel.

Originally Posted by aaren

Lane Assist works fine but once the mechanism is on, when the driver tries to change the lane, the Car's system starts protesting! It does change but then there is lot of feedback from the system.

This is the pinnacle of Japanese discipline! One of the many things I like about Japanese engineering. They teach you in driving school as well, to use indicators while changing lanes. This car makes you follow that without fail! Activate the indicators and the LKAS shuts itself off and allows you to change the lanes. You can do it with ease even by changing the gear (in manual cars) and applying the indicators at the same time (if you want to overtake a slow traffic), unlike the German and European cars which won't allow you to do this (one of the main reason I didn't go for Virtus or Slavia!!!). So unlike the German engineering, when the Japanese engineering gives you the opportunity and intent to follow the rules, do it

[Ravi Parwan]

Originally Posted by saket77

1st point is easily doable. Just press the start/stop switch once without depressing the clutch pedal in MT or the brake pedal for the AT. This turns on the accessories. You can play the music.
Second point, even I would like to know if it can be done except stalling the car intentionally in MT

Originally Posted by sprince

For the second point, put the gear in neutral and turn off the engine—the music will keep playing. You can shift to park afterward if you want to stop completely, and the music will still continue. However, once you start the engine again, the infotainment system restarts.

For Automatic Honda Cars
Saket77 & Sprince beat me to it but let me still post the complete solution to your queries for automatics.

When the car is off: Pressing the start/stop button once, without applying brakes, starts the accessories mode; where you can use the infotainment system and other accessories powered by the 12V socket.

When the car is on: To keep the car in accessories mode without cycling multiple times through the start/stop button,

1. Come to a complete stop using the brakes.
2. Then without coming out of D or releasing the brake, switch off the car. It will stop the engine but keep the accessories mode on.
3. Next the car will start beeping to put it in park. So engage the parking brake and put it in park.
4. Your brake which should have been pressed all this time, can be released now.

You get a parked car with accessories and infotainment on. Unfortunately, when you switch the car engine on, the infotainment will reboot. Why, Honda, why??

Originally Posted by Bane214

I don't have an Elevate but have driven multiple cars with engine start/stop button. You can press the start/stop button without pressing the brake to start ONLY electricals, and vice versa to keep electricals running and shut off the engine.

I find this implementation better. In my Kia Seltos, the infotainment will only shut down once you open the door, or the car engine stays shut off for some time (2 min, I think) It does display a battery discharge warning though, which is a bummer.

Originally Posted by Simplemotor

I can confirm the first point from my ZX MT (no clutch, press the start button)
For the second point, I also checked with Honda showroom/service folks. There is no way to turn off just the engine.
However, MT does allow stalling to stop the engine as you said. I don't prefer or recommend doing that but it's a valid workaround if needed (say you are on a call that you don't want to disrupt).

The Honda showroom guys are misinformed, or not bothered. However, intentionally stalling the car everytime you wish to keep the infotainment system on is not recommended.

Originally Posted by Simplemotor

Since you have mentioned "park", I think this applies only to the AT models.
I did confirm that putting the gear in neutral on my ZX MT does not change the behavior. Everything still turns off when I turn off the engine.

For the Manual Honda cars with start/stop button
Please try the following steps and let me know if it works.

1. Bring the car to a complete stop with both brake and clutch pressed.
2. Shift the transmission into Neutral and release the clutch.
3. Engage the parking brake (handbrake).
4. Turn off the engine by pressing the START/STOP button without pressing the clutch pedal.

This should work, but I can't guarantee...

[aarcher]

Originally Posted by Simplemotor

Hmm, ok. I'll try the app. I have been avoiding it to keep my phone uncluttered.

I don't view auto closing windows as a fancy feature. In my mental model, it is an integral part of locking the car. If someone can reach into the car then it is not really locked.

It would be nice to have some method to close all windows from outside the car, even if it is not enabled by default for safety reasons.

I have been told by friends that some cars have a button on the remote key (or some combination of button presses) to manually trigger the window close action. So I have tried button combinations, long presses, etc. without success.

Hi, I believe this feature can be activated in any car by adding an electronic accessory. I was offered this recently by an accessory shop for my Fortuner, however, I didn't take up his offer. The price was also not too steep.

[Paritoshkalra]

Originally Posted by carhead

Newly launched Summer Apex model has 360 camera. This is a welcome addition. If one buys a ventilated seat 'jugad' solution then most crucial features are covered.

Missing points- (Useless) panoramic roof
Hybrid, Diesel & Turbo Petrol engines

Largely complete package. definitely no comparision for Creta / Seltos top models which are also 15-20% more expensive.

Even I am planning to buy this edition specially because it has automatic without sunroof. Only alloys and roof rails need to be added.

[Simplemotor]

Originally Posted by Ravi Parwan

This should work, but I can't guarantee...

I reconfirmed that this does not work on my Elevate ZX MT R. Turning off the engine turns off everything, no matter which pedal is pressed or released, parking brake engaged or not, transmission in neutral or not.