1942 Morris 8 four door restoration started

damasthebiker · 28th January 2012, 17:38

I bought this Morris 8 in October 2010 but since I was busy in restoring my Standard Herald all this while I could not start with it.
The car was a total mess I must admit, but when I saw it the first time i could sense some sort of bonding, later on my father told me that it was a similar car to what my uncle use to drive back in the 1950s. It has several severely rusted corners, NO pertrol tank, NO radiator, but otherwise it is complete to the core with all data plates intact, all original mongrams, original door handles etc etc. Overall I was happy to have it as I thought it would make for a good restoration project.
Finally, since the Standard Herald is on road now I have tightened my belt and started with the denting!! The car has been stripped down to raw metal.
Here are the pics from the first two days of denting work. Although it seems to be quite fast it isnt actually!! As a matter of fact the smaller details take much longer time than the rough work.

samsag12 · 28th January 2012, 18:57

Nice to see a Morris being restored, looks to be quite rotten although it won't be too long for sure

Nice project you got damasthebiker. Will be glued to this thread.

BTW is this a UP registered car ?

anjan_c2007 · 28th January 2012, 22:24

A very challenging restoration job indeed for you! The car looks divested of many components.Being a once common car, I feel with some efforts you will be able to procure most of the original parts. The 1942 Morris 8 is quite rare. Most the ones were from the post WW II era.

mayankjha1806 · 29th January 2012, 05:12

This restoration will be real hard work, most of the metal is rusted and eaten away, hence would be very interesting to see it happening.

I see there is no engine at all, are you going to put in a different engine or get the same one rebuild (Not sure how)?, I guess the same confusion would be about Gear Box?

KPS · 29th January 2012, 08:14

Wish you all the very best in the restoration. I do hope that you have collected all the necessary parts before you have started the work. I have seen cars in worse condition being restored.

Please use this beautifully restored car as a reference whilst doing the work. I am sure your eyes would have light up seeing the price quoted for this car. Please do not be distracted as you must keep focused on the restoration. You must this remember this is a mass produced car and is unlikely to command premium pricing, say that of a large American vintage, irrespective of the quality of restoration

http://classifieds.team-bhp.com/buy-.../Morris-8.html

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Cheers

KPS

damasthebiker · 30th January 2012, 11:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by samsag12

Nice to see a Morris being restored, looks to be quite rotten although it won't be too long for sure

Nice project you got damasthebiker. Will be glued to this thread.

BTW is this a UP registered car ?

Thanks Mate, yes this a UP registered car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KPS

Wish you all the very best in the restoration. I do hope that you have collected all the necessary parts before you have started the work. I have seen cars in worse condition being restored.

Please use this beautifully restored car as a reference whilst doing the work. I am sure your eyes would have light up seeing the price quoted for this car. Please do not be distracted as you must keep focused on the restoration. You must this remember this is a mass produced car and is unlikely to command premium pricing, say that of a large American vintage, irrespective of the quality of restoration

http://classifieds.team-bhp.com/buy-.../Morris-8.html

Cheers

KPS

Dear KPS,

Thanks for pictures, the car is infact very well restored and I hope I will get close to it at the end. Please let the inputs coming in, all pictures, technical datas, details all are welcome. Your help will give this car a new life and hopefully a longer one this time!!

The parts are almost complete I need only few things like the headlights(complete assembly), Tail Lights, Side indicators(door center pillars), Front Grill, Radiator, Petrol tank, Horn switch assembley(on steering), Starting Handle(to start the car manually), front and rear bumpers will also help! - If anyone knows of these parts available anywhere I will be more than thankfull.

The prices do not distract me as I have no intention of selling it. I am a collector(mainly of vintage motorcycles) myself and would like to remain that ways.

regards

vintagepoint5 · 30th January 2012, 15:08

Congratulations Demasthebiker, nice to hear about Morris 8 E restoration and would be happy to watch this thread, keep us posted as it restored.

I also have M8 E 1948, on slow paced restoration, delayed due to unreliable mechanics and painters, beside I had to do it only during my vacation time. Some parts were difficult to get but keep trying, I am also looking for front grill which is damaged and tried to fabricate but it was not to mark so it was discarded.

You did not mentioned about the condition of engine, gearbox, differential, etc. Petrol tank is round cylindrical you can fabricate if did not get. Tyres (4.50 x 17) were also not available easily, importing from Cookers,USA/Avon, UK were expensive till it reached India.

Wish you all the best and look forward to see your restoration.

Good luck & cheers!

damasthebiker · 30th January 2012, 17:39

Quote:

I see there is no engine at all, are you going to put in a different engine or get the same one rebuild (Not sure how)?, I guess the same confusion would be about Gear Box?

The engine and the gearbox are with the mech for a complete overhaul. I shall post pics once I start working on them by the end of this week.

harit · 30th January 2012, 17:41

It was very nice of KPS to put up pictures for you for reference.
The most difficult part for you may be the headlights, these are oval and because they are difficult to come by a few cars have had them modified. I suggest that you make a list of parts and when people come across these they can help you.
Please do keep posting pictures, and work on the mechanicals as well.

Cheers harit

damasthebiker · 30th January 2012, 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagepoint5

Congratulations Demasthebiker, nice to hear about Morris 8 E restoration and would be happy to watch this thread, keep us posted as it restored.

I also have M8 E 1948, on slow paced restoration, delayed due to unreliable mechanics and painters, beside I had to do it only during my vacation time. Some parts were difficult to get but keep trying, I am also looking for front grill which is damaged and tried to fabricate but it was not to mark so it was discarded.

You did not mentioned about the condition of engine, gearbox, differential, etc. Petrol tank is round cylindrical you can fabricate if did not get. Tyres (4.50 x 17) were also not available easily, importing from Cookers,USA/Avon, UK were expensive till it reached India.

Wish you all the best and look forward to see your restoration.

Good luck & cheers!

Hey, its great to know that I am not alone and you are also restoring a Morris 8.
It would be great if you could post some pics of your car and especially the petrol tank and radiator.
I havent started working on the engine, gearbox and differential as yet but I was told the car was in running condition(till the time it was discarded at the denters workshop by the previous owner about 25 years back), so it shouldnt be much complicated!!
I researched a bit about the tyres and the people quoted anywhere between Rs.8000 and Rs.9000 per tyre and tube(set).

vintagepoint5 · 30th January 2012, 19:02

No problem, will post soon picture of petrol tank and radiator soon. Would be happy to share my experience during M8 restoration. Please make a list of items, what you need to repair and what is needed to replace.

Keep all the engine, parts, gearbox, differential, universal joint and gears inside the differential in safe place and attend mechanicals separately and body dential, repairs etc seprately. Remove the wooden dash, Smith meters carefully, monograms of Morris Oxford, chassis plate No. all of them you will find near the battery compartment all of them were important and difficult to acquire if lost during restoration.

Regards,

damasthebiker · 1st February 2012, 16:22

Here are few pictures of the Engine, Gearbox, Horn, Self motor, Cut Out, Fuel Pump, Carburator and the front grill!!
Hopefully we will start working on the engine from Saturday onwards!

priyadarshan.b · 1st February 2012, 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by damasthebiker

Here are few pictures of the Engine, Gearbox, Horn, Self motor, Cut Out, Fuel Pump, Carburator and the front grill!!
Hopefully we will start working on the engine from Saturday onwards!

Looks like you have lot of work lying ahead.. All the best buddy.. Will be glued to your thread..

Priyadarshan

vintagepoint5 · 2nd February 2012, 03:53

Glad to see you have all the important parts, will be interesting to see your engine, gearbox tune up, keep us posted. Meantime attaching pictures of radiator and petrol tank of my car.

Cheers!

basky · 2nd February 2012, 06:18

Congratulations on this project. You have quite some work ahead of you.

If you have a compressor, try getting a sand blaster. It is not expensive, but will cut down the cleaning to base metal job much faster and cleaner. I use and reuse sieved river sand which works quite well for me. Very useful too for cleaning the outsides of engine parts to get it gleaming.

Caution: protect your eyes, ears and nose. Use goggles or a face mask and cover yourself completely as there will be rebound of sand particles leaving you like 'Sandman'.

28th January 2012, 17:38	#1
damasthebiker BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Agra Posts: 102 Thanked: 39 Times	1942 Morris 8 four door restoration started I bought this Morris 8 in October 2010 but since I was busy in restoring my Standard Herald all this while I could not start with it. The car was a total mess I must admit, but when I saw it the first time i could sense some sort of bonding, later on my father told me that it was a similar car to what my uncle use to drive back in the 1950s. It has several severely rusted corners, NO pertrol tank, NO radiator, but otherwise it is complete to the core with all data plates intact, all original mongrams, original door handles etc etc. Overall I was happy to have it as I thought it would make for a good restoration project. Finally, since the Standard Herald is on road now I have tightened my belt and started with the denting!! The car has been stripped down to raw metal. Here are the pics from the first two days of denting work. Although it seems to be quite fast it isnt actually!! As a matter of fact the smaller details take much longer time than the rough work. Attached Thumbnails
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28th January 2012, 18:57	#2
samsag12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: City of Nawaabs Posts: 1,624 Thanked: 242 Times View My Garage	Re: 1942 Morris 8 four door restoration started Nice to see a Morris being restored, looks to be quite rotten although it won't be too long for sure Nice project you got damasthebiker. Will be glued to this thread. BTW is this a UP registered car ?
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28th January 2012, 22:24	#3
anjan_c2007 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: India Posts: 8,335 Thanked: 20,656 Times View My Garage	Re: 1942 Morris 8 four door restoration started A very challenging restoration job indeed for you! The car looks divested of many components.Being a once common car, I feel with some efforts you will be able to procure most of the original parts. The 1942 Morris 8 is quite rare. Most the ones were from the post WW II era.
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29th January 2012, 05:12	#4
mayankjha1806 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,160 Thanked: 978 Times View My Garage	Re: 1942 Morris 8 four door restoration started This restoration will be real hard work, most of the metal is rusted and eaten away, hence would be very interesting to see it happening. I see there is no engine at all, are you going to put in a different engine or get the same one rebuild (Not sure how)?, I guess the same confusion would be about Gear Box?
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29th January 2012, 08:14	#5
KPS Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,756 Thanked: 11,503 Times View My Garage	Re: 1942 Morris 8 four door restoration started Wish you all the very best in the restoration. I do hope that you have collected all the necessary parts before you have started the work. I have seen cars in worse condition being restored. Please use this beautifully restored car as a reference whilst doing the work. I am sure your eyes would have light up seeing the price quoted for this car. Please do not be distracted as you must keep focused on the restoration. You must this remember this is a mass produced car and is unlikely to command premium pricing, say that of a large American vintage, irrespective of the quality of restoration http://classifieds.team-bhp.com/buy-.../Morris-8.html Cheers KPS
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30th January 2012, 15:08	#7
vintagepoint5 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jeddah/Hyd Posts: 421 Thanked: 64 Times View My Garage	Re: 1942 Morris 8 four door restoration started Congratulations Demasthebiker, nice to hear about Morris 8 E restoration and would be happy to watch this thread, keep us posted as it restored. I also have M8 E 1948, on slow paced restoration, delayed due to unreliable mechanics and painters, beside I had to do it only during my vacation time. Some parts were difficult to get but keep trying, I am also looking for front grill which is damaged and tried to fabricate but it was not to mark so it was discarded. You did not mentioned about the condition of engine, gearbox, differential, etc. Petrol tank is round cylindrical you can fabricate if did not get. Tyres (4.50 x 17) were also not available easily, importing from Cookers,USA/Avon, UK were expensive till it reached India. Wish you all the best and look forward to see your restoration. Good luck & cheers!
	() Thanks

30th January 2012, 17:41	#9
harit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,033 Thanked: 3,281 Times	Re: 1942 Morris 8 four door restoration started It was very nice of KPS to put up pictures for you for reference. The most difficult part for you may be the headlights, these are oval and because they are difficult to come by a few cars have had them modified. I suggest that you make a list of parts and when people come across these they can help you. Please do keep posting pictures, and work on the mechanicals as well. Cheers harit
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30th January 2012, 19:02	#11
vintagepoint5 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jeddah/Hyd Posts: 421 Thanked: 64 Times View My Garage	Re: 1942 Morris 8 four door restoration started No problem, will post soon picture of petrol tank and radiator soon. Would be happy to share my experience during M8 restoration. Please make a list of items, what you need to repair and what is needed to replace. Keep all the engine, parts, gearbox, differential, universal joint and gears inside the differential in safe place and attend mechanicals separately and body dential, repairs etc seprately. Remove the wooden dash, Smith meters carefully, monograms of Morris Oxford, chassis plate No. all of them you will find near the battery compartment all of them were important and difficult to acquire if lost during restoration. Regards,
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1st February 2012, 16:22	#12
damasthebiker BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Agra Posts: 102 Thanked: 39 Times	Re: 1942 Morris 8 four door restoration started Here are few pictures of the Engine, Gearbox, Horn, Self motor, Cut Out, Fuel Pump, Carburator and the front grill!! Hopefully we will start working on the engine from Saturday onwards! Attached Thumbnails
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2nd February 2012, 03:53	#14
vintagepoint5 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jeddah/Hyd Posts: 421 Thanked: 64 Times View My Garage	Re: 1942 Morris 8 four door restoration started Glad to see you have all the important parts, will be interesting to see your engine, gearbox tune up, keep us posted. Meantime attaching pictures of radiator and petrol tank of my car. Cheers! Attached Thumbnails
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2nd February 2012, 06:18	#15
basky BHPian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kollam, Kerala Posts: 233 Thanked: 108 Times	Re: 1942 Morris 8 four door restoration started Congratulations on this project. You have quite some work ahead of you. If you have a compressor, try getting a sand blaster. It is not expensive, but will cut down the cleaning to base metal job much faster and cleaner. I use and reuse sieved river sand which works quite well for me. Very useful too for cleaning the outsides of engine parts to get it gleaming. Caution: protect your eyes, ears and nose. Use goggles or a face mask and cover yourself completely as there will be rebound of sand particles leaving you like 'Sandman'.
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