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| ![]() VW have taken a right step in this regard by making Airbags standard accross variants. I wonder what makes other manufacturers not to follow the footsteps. Waiting for the Govt. of India to come up with some stringent safety norms sooner rather than later. |
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| ![]() It is indeed an interesting discussion on comparing a car manufactured in a plant based out of India versus anything manufactured abroad. I do not have any factual data which can verify any statements made on this proposition, but I would be interested to read some if someone can share. The engineering drawing/chassis is same (negligible difference may be present, of course), the raw materials contributing to it *could* be different. I wonder if there exists an organization which checks quality of material that gets into these automobiles. So, IMO, the test and results shared do give us some idea about what to expect. Its a trailer, the movie will be out soon. ![]() |
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| ![]() Proud to be a Honda City Owner! Infact, I am surprised by the such a near perfect score of 15.8 / 16.0 for the City. This is a testament of how crucial structural elements and design are important for cars |
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| ![]() Was the Honda City which was crash tested manufactured in India? No. In that case, aren't City Owners jumping the gun in celebrating? I mean, sorry to spoil the party but let's be objective and not subjective. |
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Come on, it's the closest like to like, Honda city owners in India could compare and be happy about. There isn't any fact misrepresentation here, just feeling good that the Honda city is built well, It is not as if someone with a Ford rejoiced about the city clearing the tests Anyways, I was kidding about the Thai variant ![]() | |
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Have seen the previous gen city take quite a hit from a basketball impact, forget the current generation which feels like it's made of ultra thin sheet metal! Doesn't qualify as well-built IMO; even if it has a hundred crumple zones to get crushed around the cabin and get destroyed in its attempt to save passengers from the lightest of impacts. I'm not saying my definition of well-built is the correct one. Just my opinion. Last edited by CrAzY dRiVeR : 5th September 2014 at 02:10. | |
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End of the day, it's your car and you can have an subjective view on it but some posts like, "this proves that the City is built well.." is taking things too far and could mislead a buyer. | |
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| ![]() Tata scored well in terms of passenger side compared to city. As mentioned earlier it could be due to larger steering wheel made the score worse. If this part has been taken care then tata could easily beat city. |
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| ![]() Sharing a read, in case someone didn't see it. http://www.autocarindia.com/auto-new...rs-384684.aspx As stated in the article: " It’s important to note that while most of these Malaysian-made models may look similar to the ones sold in India, there may be a difference in the grade of sheet metal used for their manufacture. Hence, some Indian made cars may perform differently when subjected to the same test. It is best to look at these ratings as a guideline rather than an absolute rating. " It again goes back to the same old question that I keep asking without getting answers. What extent of bad material are we talking about for Indian manufactured cars? What are our factories lacking? Raw material quality? processing of raw materials not done the way it should? ![]() |
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Hope this clarifies bit of doubts in your mind. *EDIT* Googled and could find one link : Made in India Ford EcoSport tweaked for Europe; gets 300 changes! Last edited by tbppjpr : 5th September 2014 at 09:50. | |
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| ![]() Don't be so excited yet Honda City owners! As the above post mentions, the build is different in the Indian manufactured City. Unless the Govt puts strict rules in place, we will continue to be dumped upon by all the car manufacturers. In a way we are to blame since all that most of the Indian population cares about is - "kitna deti hai"? ![]() |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Great! Wonder if those celebrating early ever take efforts to get all details. For a first, compare the road traffic and driver behavior conditions before imaging our Indian made City will be as safe as the one crash tested by ASEAN NCAP. Honda, I'm guessing, will milk this opportunity with placards in their showrooms, like what Ford did for the Figo. God help the lesser aware. For sure the sales advisors will use this into their sales pitch, if they learn about this crash test results. On a separate note, these crash tests at just 60kph are good but aren't revealing more. Why don't these folks also test and post results from high speed crash tests? Like at around 120kph or more. Those are the tests that will benefit more and also, reveal more. Lots of individuals driving like crazies in the highways, high speed crash test results also matter for our country. Last edited by k_ajay : 5th September 2014 at 10:42. |
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| ![]() I would not draw any conclusions out of crash test ratings on a car manufactured in a plant outside India. I would really want the Indian version to be tested. The thinner sheet metal, the tinny doors, etc could be India specific cost-cutting. Besides, I am not sure if side impact was tested. In the absence of side and curtain airbags the city is sure to score low. So I am really surprised by such a high rating. Having lost two close family members in a side impact accident I have begun to take the safety features pretty seriously. As an owner of a Honda City I don't feel safe at all, given the build quality is really poor (in my opinion). And these ratings do not provide any comfort. I would be glad to be proven wrong though. |
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Read somewhere earlier that high speed crashes most frequently occur around the 60 kph mark and hence the speed was chosen. Even in cases like 120 kph driving as you have suggested, the actual crash might be occuring close to 60 kph unless the driver didn't react to the situation at all! PS - All the data is for international markets. I think the average speeds should be lesser in India, but yes - some people do drive way beyond these limits as you mentioned. | |
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