Ikon Flair Confusion..

supremeBaleno · 29th August 2006, 17:03

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Originally Posted by nitinhegde

supremebaleno,I didn't pay a single penny during my free servicing nor did my friends who own an Ikon 1.6 nxt,Fiesta.

Might be true, bcos, AFAIK, for Fords, there is no oil change during 1st service. Just like me not paying anything for the 2nd free service of the Baleno as the oil change is only at 10K km intervals.

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Originally Posted by nitinhegde

I am not saying that what you have said is totally false but the figures appear exaggerated.

You are contradicting yourself here. BTW, the figures are from my friends who own Ikons. Ofcourse, this does not mean that all Ikon owners are paying in this range. It is only an indicative opinion.

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Originally Posted by nitinhegde

so, no more arguments please - end of discussion

You started it by quoting me from some other thread, due to which I had to put down my view.

nitinhegde · 30th August 2006, 10:20

supremebaleno,I don't want to argue with you anymore..stop quoting me...I was speaking about Paid+free servicing...read my entire post carefully.....you just keep quoting people at your own convenience without understanding the gist of the message.The figures you are quoting is blown up......I had myself done lot of investigation before proceeding on my purchase...this would be my last post on this thread...and I won't reply to you or your quotes on this thread henceforth...

supremeBaleno · 30th August 2006, 11:04

Fine with me.
But if you are the kind that avoids discussions, then it would be useful to remember not to bring others into it, by quoting them. I was just an observer on this thread limiting myself to reading the posts, till post#25 where you quoted me from another thread. And what did you expect me to do, other than putting forward my views ?
All you have done till date is the 1st free service and you are expounding on paid services, etc. And if non-owners cannot comment on a car from the experience of their friends/relatives, then I guess most of the posts on the forum would need to be deleted.

nitinhegde · 30th August 2006, 15:22

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Originally Posted by nitinhegde

When I had put my car for servicing,The bills I saw for other customers weren't near the figure you are quoting for paid/free servicing...so,I will wait and watch before commenting.!

Oh God ! Please spare me...supremebaleno dude,look at my post above...Isn't it ample clear ?
Have you been to Ford service workshops?How many bills have you seen?
I have visited them twice and interacted with many regular customers-Again,before you quote me...I am talking about PAID servicing...Please read the messages carefully.....

suman · 30th August 2006, 15:58

Sorry guys, had to butt in with my two cents here

......Ikon 1.6, my free services were five years ago but.........no costs other than oil, oil filter & fuel filter (in the third one). SB, I think for those who are quoting 2.5-3k for FREE services....maybe there were other issues resulting in cost of components and warranty periods may have been over.

Even now, at 10k intervals, my service cost components are those stated above plus labour....brake pads are checked for wear & tear and changed every 20k kms or more; that pushes those service costs up but other than that....a blanket 2-3k for every service is not normal.

These days, of course, don't forget the service tax component on labour (that you pay for all & sundry be they Ikons, Balenos whatever) which also pushes costs up!

Cheers

supremeBaleno · 30th August 2006, 16:50

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Originally Posted by suman

Sorry guys, had to butt in with my two cents here

......Ikon 1.6, my free services were five years ago but.........no costs other than oil, oil filter & fuel filter (in the third one). SB, I think for those who are quoting 2.5-3k for FREE services....maybe there were other issues resulting in cost of components and warranty periods may have been over.

suman, agree with what you say about the possibility of other issues (except for the warranty part - bcos warranty lasts atleast till the 3rd service or more). And have also mentioned in previous posts that what I quoted is just what my friends have paid. And that it is only indicative. Did I say that all Ikons incur this kind of costs ?

I mean, just because he claims that he went around the service centre checking other customers bills and found them to be lower than what my friends had to pay, does that mean that all car owners pay only that amount ?

And regarding my visiting a Ford centre, I can't get the logic behind that. Do you take your Flair to a MASS ? Most certainly not. And if that is the case, does it make you ineligible to quote what a Maruti car owner told you about his car ? I don't think so.

kpzen · 30th August 2006, 21:24

Whats latest tecfreak???? have u bought IKon or not???

Come what may cant beat the Maruti in maintenance cost???? So guys just chill n dont start a Baleno v/s Ikon battle here....Buttttttt both are absolute pleasure to drive

supremeBaleno · 14th September 2006, 14:09

Was just browsing the archives and came across a 10K ownership report of the Flair (http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/283556-post1.html). Quoting from the report.

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Originally Posted by sammyboy

Service– Well the first and second services were free. The third one was a complete health check with oil and filters at Metro Bangalore (ok ok ) changed so cost me rs 2700 ...

Which is quite in tune with what my friends said they paid (between 2-3K) for the free services, and which was quoted by me. Hope this clears any doubts / misconceptions.

And this is what sammyboy has to say about the FE.

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Originally Posted by sammyboy

In Bangalore – well let’s not go there. It’s giving me around 10 kmpl.

fight_club · 14th September 2006, 14:38

regarding ikon a/c problem i have to change the "valve" for time beacuse of hot air coming from a/c one of the way of avoiding it is not to fiddle with "cooling" button.at this cost ikon is fun and average should be 11.5 to 12, rocam 1.3 is not bad and you can have your "mini josh" machine at a afrfordable price

grvanand · 16th September 2006, 11:56

Why not consider Ford Fiesta 1.4 Petrol? Seems to be better than all others in its segment.

RX135 · 16th September 2006, 17:28

If you are looking for more of good looks, boot and a sedan over hatchback, then go for Flair.

If you want hasslefree ownership with good FE and resale, go for esteem.

If you want bigger can than esteem with hasslefree ownership and good resale, but not-so-good FE, go for Accent. (You can't get fully loaded Accent in this budget though).

If you dont care for brand image and resale, but good performer with good FE/power/handling/ride, look no further than Petra. I can personally vouch for that.

tecfrek · 21st September 2006, 22:53

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Originally Posted by kpzen

Whats latest tecfreak???? have u bought IKon or not???

Come what may cant beat the Maruti in maintenance cost???? So guys just chill n dont start a Baleno v/s Ikon battle here....Buttttttt both are absolute pleasure to drive

Hey KPzen... i got my car last week... an accent GLE

All you guys thank you so much for all the help you've given so far.... it was really useful. And about the delay, it was only because i was spending all my time with the new member in my family...

As of now, no serious problems (touch wood!). But, the ppl who put the sun film have messed up the front left door window and it tends to misalign when i slide it down all the way.. will get that thing checked up. Oh and i dint know that the rear windows dont go all the way down... in fact quite a sizeable chunk stays as it is... i would say the window goes down to around 80% of the available area... is this how it is in all accents or only mine??

Oh and can anyone tell me how to remove that ugly "Bharat Stage III" sticker on the boot of the car, cleanly without leaving a trace??

Thanks a lot once again...

30th August 2006, 10:20	#32
nitinhegde BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ~ Posts: 242 Thanked: 91 Times	supremebaleno,I don't want to argue with you anymore..stop quoting me...I was speaking about Paid+free servicing...read my entire post carefully.....you just keep quoting people at your own convenience without understanding the gist of the message.The figures you are quoting is blown up......I had myself done lot of investigation before proceeding on my purchase...this would be my last post on this thread...and I won't reply to you or your quotes on this thread henceforth... Last edited by nitinhegde : 30th August 2006 at 10:22.
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30th August 2006, 11:04	#33
supremeBaleno Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chennai / Kochi Posts: 5,677 Thanked: 2,909 Times View My Garage	Fine with me. But if you are the kind that avoids discussions, then it would be useful to remember not to bring others into it, by quoting them. I was just an observer on this thread limiting myself to reading the posts, till post#25 where you quoted me from another thread. And what did you expect me to do, other than putting forward my views ? All you have done till date is the 1st free service and you are expounding on paid services, etc. And if non-owners cannot comment on a car from the experience of their friends/relatives, then I guess most of the posts on the forum would need to be deleted.
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30th August 2006, 15:58	#35
suman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 4,586 Thanked: 281 Times View My Garage	Sorry guys, had to butt in with my two cents here ......Ikon 1.6, my free services were five years ago but.........no costs other than oil, oil filter & fuel filter (in the third one). SB, I think for those who are quoting 2.5-3k for FREE services....maybe there were other issues resulting in cost of components and warranty periods may have been over. Even now, at 10k intervals, my service cost components are those stated above plus labour....brake pads are checked for wear & tear and changed every 20k kms or more; that pushes those service costs up but other than that....a blanket 2-3k for every service is not normal. These days, of course, don't forget the service tax component on labour (that you pay for all & sundry be they Ikons, Balenos whatever) which also pushes costs up! Cheers Last edited by suman : 30th August 2006 at 16:00.
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30th August 2006, 21:24	#37
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,609 Thanked: 1,882 Times View My Garage	Whats latest tecfreak???? have u bought IKon or not??? Come what may cant beat the Maruti in maintenance cost???? So guys just chill n dont start a Baleno v/s Ikon battle here....Buttttttt both are absolute pleasure to drive
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14th September 2006, 14:38	#39
fight_club BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 152 Thanked: 40 Times	regarding ikon a/c problem i have to change the "valve" for time beacuse of hot air coming from a/c one of the way of avoiding it is not to fiddle with "cooling" button.at this cost ikon is fun and average should be 11.5 to 12, rocam 1.3 is not bad and you can have your "mini josh" machine at a afrfordable price
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16th September 2006, 11:56	#40
grvanand BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 210 Thanked: 0 Times	Why not consider Ford Fiesta 1.4 Petrol? Seems to be better than all others in its segment.
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16th September 2006, 17:28	#41
RX135 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: pune Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 77 Times	If you are looking for more of good looks, boot and a sedan over hatchback, then go for Flair. If you want hasslefree ownership with good FE and resale, go for esteem. If you want bigger can than esteem with hasslefree ownership and good resale, but not-so-good FE, go for Accent. (You can't get fully loaded Accent in this budget though). If you dont care for brand image and resale, but good performer with good FE/power/handling/ride, look no further than Petra. I can personally vouch for that.
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