Is it worth waiting for an ABS option

higautham · 20th March 2007, 16:41

hi bhpians...
i'm planning to have a new car. Now i'm having an 2001 OHC and 98 Zen. i'm giong to exchange my Zen with a Diesel hatch. My mind is set to Swift VDi, and I took two TD of Swift. I really liked the drivability of this Multijet machine and I'm in love with its exterior looks(Interior very bad). BUT the thing which worried me is its braking . i did'nt feel safe while braking it. May be it is due to the thin tyres provided. Now i'm in a big confusion, to go for the one with ABS or to have one with wider tyres. My budget not enough to have both.
Now Swift Vdi on road price here 5.32 L. At present situation I can extend my budget to 5.5 L max. But Vdi ABS on road price is 5.5 L.
Another problem is the availabilty of ABS optioned Swift Diesel. Its a huge waiting period.

So i'm seeking advise of Bhpians, what to do.
*Wait for ABS option and run it on stock 165/80/14 tyres.
OR
*to have Vdi with nice grippy tyres on stock rims.

which one will be better?

Or Any other option other than Swift diesel. It should have all door power windows, Power steetring, and some good features.

navdeep · 20th March 2007, 16:49

ABS only if you are on highway most of the time.
There is no Diesel hatch that be compared with Swift. Palio is due but I am not sure you will like the interiors either.

gemithomas · 20th March 2007, 16:52

gautham, if you are not in a hurry for a new vehicle just hang on for a few months. You will have options like the Santro Diesel, Getz diesel, and maybe the aveo U-VA Diesel. Since your budget is 5.5 no need to consider the Fusion Diesel.

If you need the vehicle soon the only good diesel engine(initial views) optionis the Swift. With the New Tax rates i dont think the OTR prices would be within 5.5L. since the Road tax rates are now 6% of the vehicle price(if i'm right).

But First What are your priorities. Where will you be driving, as in highway/city. What is your monthly average Km, as in do you really need a Diesel?

BUSA · 20th March 2007, 16:59

Yes its worth waiting for the ABS model. I am getting the NON-ABS in a week from the day i decide tp go for it, but i am still waiting till May for the ABS one.

novice · 20th March 2007, 17:07

Go for the one with ABS......then replace stock tyres when you have enough money. In my opinion ABS is a must on every car irrespective of whether one drives on highway or not, it is an investment that would save ones life someday. I drive on highways quite frequently and felt the need for ABS on many occasions.

One may think that he/she will mostly drive in City and hence there is no need for ABS. But who knows, one of those "rare highway drives" may turn out to be a fatal one just because the car wasn't equipped with ABS.

Hope this helps.
- Novice

higautham · 20th March 2007, 17:49

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But First What are your priorities. Where will you be driving, as in highway/city. What is your monthly average Km, as in do you really need a Diesel?[/quote]

my monthly average does not suggest a diesel car, but i'm seriously inclined to a multijet or crdi engine(because i'm having an OHC now and i love to have both options-petrol and diesel). I'm not going to use it frequently in heavy traffic, mostly in my town varkala and some unofficial highway trips.

nitrous · 20th March 2007, 18:15

Its still useless to have stock 165 size tires with ABS.
U still need185/70/R14 atleast.

higautham · 20th March 2007, 18:40

i'm trying to add some more to my budget. But is waiting a worth. any new models to come with in four months.

higautham · 21st March 2007, 13:06

which one will be better among the two configs mentioned below.(for swift)

*ABS with stock 165/80-14 tyres.
*stock rims with 195/--/14 tyres

santhoshx · 21st March 2007, 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by gemithomas

Since your budget is 5.5 no need to consider the Fusion Diesel.

Is fusion Diesel version is available ?

navdeep · 21st March 2007, 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by santhoshx

Is fusion Diesel version is available ?

No its not .. but speculated to be launched this year ..

higautham · 21st March 2007, 14:07

ford may use thier 1.4 TDCI engine for Fusion also.

navdeep · 21st March 2007, 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by higautham

ford may use thier 1.4 TDCI engine for Fusion also.

does'nt make sense.. what will be price difference of Fiesta 1.4 TDCI and Fusion 1.4 TDCI.

theMAG · 21st March 2007, 17:03

On the Swifts, a fatter tyre is the order of the day. Although I'm not sure if you can retrofit ABS as an add-on once the car leaves MUL.

BUSA · 21st March 2007, 18:19

You cant retrofit ABS atleast in India

20th March 2007, 16:41	#1
higautham BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 95 Thanked: Once	Is it worth waiting for an ABS option hi bhpians... i'm planning to have a new car. Now i'm having an 2001 OHC and 98 Zen. i'm giong to exchange my Zen with a Diesel hatch. My mind is set to Swift VDi, and I took two TD of Swift. I really liked the drivability of this Multijet machine and I'm in love with its exterior looks(Interior very bad). BUT the thing which worried me is its braking . i did'nt feel safe while braking it. May be it is due to the thin tyres provided. Now i'm in a big confusion, to go for the one with ABS or to have one with wider tyres. My budget not enough to have both. Now Swift Vdi on road price here 5.32 L. At present situation I can extend my budget to 5.5 L max. But Vdi ABS on road price is 5.5 L. Another problem is the availabilty of ABS optioned Swift Diesel. Its a huge waiting period. So i'm seeking advise of Bhpians, what to do. Wait for ABS option and run it on stock 165/80/14 tyres. OR to have Vdi with nice grippy tyres on stock rims. which one will be better? Or Any other option other than Swift diesel. It should have all door power windows, Power steetring, and some good features.
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20th March 2007, 16:49	#2
navdeep BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 892 Thanked: 4 Times	ABS only if you are on highway most of the time. There is no Diesel hatch that be compared with Swift. Palio is due but I am not sure you will like the interiors either.
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20th March 2007, 16:52	#3
gemithomas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,366 Thanked: 143 Times View My Garage	gautham, if you are not in a hurry for a new vehicle just hang on for a few months. You will have options like the Santro Diesel, Getz diesel, and maybe the aveo U-VA Diesel. Since your budget is 5.5 no need to consider the Fusion Diesel. If you need the vehicle soon the only good diesel engine(initial views) optionis the Swift. With the New Tax rates i dont think the OTR prices would be within 5.5L. since the Road tax rates are now 6% of the vehicle price(if i'm right). But First What are your priorities. Where will you be driving, as in highway/city. What is your monthly average Km, as in do you really need a Diesel?
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20th March 2007, 16:59	#4
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Yes its worth waiting for the ABS model. I am getting the NON-ABS in a week from the day i decide tp go for it, but i am still waiting till May for the ABS one.
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20th March 2007, 17:07	#5
novice BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 284 Thanked: 263 Times	Go for the one with ABS......then replace stock tyres when you have enough money. In my opinion ABS is a must on every car irrespective of whether one drives on highway or not, it is an investment that would save ones life someday. I drive on highways quite frequently and felt the need for ABS on many occasions. One may think that he/she will mostly drive in City and hence there is no need for ABS. But who knows, one of those "rare highway drives" may turn out to be a fatal one just because the car wasn't equipped with ABS. Hope this helps. - Novice
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20th March 2007, 17:49	#6
higautham BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 95 Thanked: Once	[quote= But First What are your priorities. Where will you be driving, as in highway/city. What is your monthly average Km, as in do you really need a Diesel?[/quote] my monthly average does not suggest a diesel car, but i'm seriously inclined to a multijet or crdi engine(because i'm having an OHC now and i love to have both options-petrol and diesel). I'm not going to use it frequently in heavy traffic, mostly in my town varkala and some unofficial highway trips.
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20th March 2007, 18:15	#7
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Its still useless to have stock 165 size tires with ABS. U still need185/70/R14 atleast.
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20th March 2007, 18:40	#8
higautham BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 95 Thanked: Once	i'm trying to add some more to my budget. But is waiting a worth. any new models to come with in four months.
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21st March 2007, 13:06	#9
higautham BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 95 Thanked: Once	which one will be better among the two configs mentioned below.(for swift) ABS with stock 165/80-14 tyres. stock rims with 195/--/14 tyres
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21st March 2007, 14:07	#12
higautham BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 95 Thanked: Once	ford may use thier 1.4 TDCI engine for Fusion also.
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21st March 2007, 17:03	#14
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,217 Thanked: 1,807 Times View My Garage	On the Swifts, a fatter tyre is the order of the day. Although I'm not sure if you can retrofit ABS as an add-on once the car leaves MUL.
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21st March 2007, 18:19	#15
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	You cant retrofit ABS atleast in India
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