What car - 7-9L - help needed

Torque123 · 20th February 2008, 04:31

Hey buddy,

Go for Ford Fiesta 1.6 SXI or Zxi. 1.6 Zxi is VFM. You will never regret for buying this car.

sj_koova · 14th March 2008, 23:22

Hello all,

I am planning to buy a new sedan through company lease program very soon (Will be by end of March or early April). My budget is up to 10 Lakhs after fully stretching (precisely 8-10L). Two cars I have considered are Mitsubishi Cedia Sports and NHC Vetc Plus.

Now why am I writing this post!
My heart is towards Cedia and mind is towards HNC.
Big confusion isn't it

I have test driven both and liked both for their own positives.

What I want from my new car. And what I think about them.
>Drive average 60km a day. (NHC may be better choice)
>Often go for long drives. (Cedia scores)
>Pretty decent FE. (NHC scores)
>Good highway performance, pickup and comfort. (Cedia is better)
>Good reputation and A.S.S (NHC scores well)
>Safety (Airbag/ABS) (Both are equal)
>Resale only after 4 years (NHS scores)

Both dealers have quoted 10Lakhs (NHC Vetc Plus and Cedia sports). Still negotiating with both of them. I know NHC is over priced by at least 1Lakhs. But still think they demand it for the FE/A.S.S/reputation.

I have test driven SX4 also. I did not like this car for many reasons.

Corolla is one car I never want to own (decision after driving it in US).

Optra Magnum is out of budget.

Cedia would have been best choice for me if Mitsubishi had reputation and FE as Honda does. Cedia's 2L (1999 cc) SOHC engine delivering only 115bhp is also a big concern for me. Is it good or bad? Some say it is good as the engine is not fully stretched. Cedia have compensated it with better torque though. Sales rep said they had tuned it for India, but no clue what kind of tuning has gone in.

I can't wait for new cars as company lease program closes in April.

Cedia, NHC Vtec owners and experts, your views are important for me.

sj_koova · 15th March 2008, 00:02

Hello mods,
I placed my previous post as a fresh thread, but I see it has been appended to an existing thread. Would you please split my thread.

Akshay1234 · 15th March 2008, 09:19

sj koova the cedia makes more sense. the nhc is completely overpriced. also if you do enjoy driving then i dont know why your considering it? the vtec engine is nice but the rest of the car dilutes the effect. the overlight steering, the looks. the only plus point i can think of is the rear legroom.

the *** is not supposed to be that bad from what people on tbhp say. the nhc will give good fe but its not like the cedia will empty your pockets. youll also get lots of performance parts for the lancer.

sj_koova · 15th March 2008, 09:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by akshay1234

the only plus point i can think of is the rear legroom.

Yes the rear seat seating posture and comfort is much better in NHC
Also the interiors look much pleasant in NHC (not the quality)
Cedia sports is black all over and my wife hates it.

Sorry Vardhan if I hijacked this thread. In fact I wanted a fresh thread but no clue what happened.

RajaTaurus · 15th March 2008, 10:23

Sure you would have gone through all the cedizen's threads here on team-bhp.
My last word will be, you want to drive yourself, go for Cedia Spirit (As your wife hates black interiors). There is no other diff between Spirit and Sports except the interior color, front and rear air dam and the spoiler.
Service after sales...?
I am still treated like a prince in ACT India. Even a few scratches on the sides, they did for me FREE. And I heard only good about the b'mlore dealers of Cedia. (Don't fo by the general belief.. Ask the b'lore Cedia owners for hand-son experience of Service...

sj_koova · 15th March 2008, 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by RajaTaurus

Sure you would have gone through all the cedizen's threads here on team-bhp.

Yes I have gone through most of them. And that made me to look at the Cedia (All hail team-BHP

). I always liked the exterior looks (sports) of cedia, but never thought I may plan to own one

Quote:

Originally Posted by RajaTaurus

My last word will be, you want to drive yourself, go for Cedia Spirit (As your wife hates black interiors). There is no other diff between Spirit and Sports except the interior color, front and rear air dam and the spoiler.

I want the exterior looks of sports. spirit looks too plain outside but interiors certainly looks richer

Quote:

Originally Posted by RajaTaurus

Ask the b'lore Cedia owners for hand-son experience of Service...

I am dealing with Lathangi in Bangalore. So far it is just ok..ok. On the other hand, Dakshin Honda works pro actively. I have been called my their senior manager too. I feel that makes lot of difference.

Thanks Raja for your response.

agbenny · 15th March 2008, 22:31

Diesal - Hyundai Verna.
Pertol - SX4.

You won't regret with any of them!

vnabhi · 16th March 2008, 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torque123

Hey buddy,

Go for Ford Fiesta 1.6 SXI or Zxi. 1.6 Zxi is VFM. You will never regret for buying this car.

I support this recommendation. The sxi now comes with ABS and a driver's side airbag as well.

Chat · 17th March 2008, 00:50

SJ,

I was all for red Sports Cedia but somehow couldn't convince my wife for its black interiors and finally bought silver Select variant. However, you could ask the dealer to give you beige seats in Sports variant. One of my colleagues did the same and the dealer, Lathangi, obliged. Having said that, pls be sure they would change only the seats and wouldn't be able to do anything to the rest of the interiors. See if that could help you convince your wife

Or else, Spirit or Select variant would do.

As for Honda City, it is a sheer waste of money. I test drove it immediately after driving Cedia and almost offended their Sales Manager by saying what rubbish car it is and he should quit his job at Honda for Mitsubishi.

RROD · 17th March 2008, 08:40

I'd have gone for the Cedia sports blindfolded, if i wouldn't have reduced my Budget, and i dint want the Spirit or Select.
Cedia sports costs 10L OTR bangalore.

I got the Fiesta 1.6 SXi instead for 7.9 OTR b'lore and i absolutely love it.

megger · 17th March 2008, 09:15

SJ

Go for NHC Vtec if you want to look good. If you want to have great driving experience, then consider Cedia.

I am consistently getting 12+ kmpl with Cedia and it is due for second service now.

sj_koova · 17th March 2008, 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chat

SJ,

I was all for red Sports Cedia but somehow couldn't convince my wife for its black interiors and finally bought silver Select variant. However, you could ask the dealer to give you beige seats in Sports variant. One of my colleagues did the same and the dealer, Lathangi, obliged. Having said that, pls be sure they would change only the seats and wouldn't be able to do anything to the rest of the interiors. See if that could help you convince your wife

Or else, Spirit or Select variant would do.

Yes. I thought about this as an option. But then I saw one of the cars in the service area with the similar seat exchange. Somehow I felt the beige seat and the rest of the interiors does not glue well in sports. The seats really look bit out of place. So I thought I will compromise on this. The sales person told me he can have this changed with the color of my choice outside with a person he knows. But I did not want to touch on anything original.
For all other aspects I want sports only.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chat

As for Honda City, it is a sheer waste of money. I test drove it immediately after driving Cedia and almost offended their Sales Manager by saying what rubbish car it is and he should quit his job at Honda for Mitsubishi.

I somehow agree with you on NHC Vtec after my second round of test drive y'day. I did touch 140kmph on NICE road and was so uncomfortable with the stability and handling of NHC beyond 120kmph speed. Breaking was still comparable.

Negotiations are still on with both of them. Honda seems to be better on free accessories and discounts. (Just because my friend knew some at top level in Honda)

sj_koova · 17th March 2008, 10:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by megger

SJ

Go for NHC Vtec if you want to look good. If you want to have great driving experience, then consider Cedia.

I am consistently getting 12+ kmpl with Cedia and it is due for second service now.

Is 12+ for only City driving or mixed?

Looks of interiors I would definitely vote for NHC.
But how do you rate the quality of plastic and other material used for interiors. I thought Mitsubishi is better. Also how do you rate the leather in both?

megger · 18th March 2008, 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by sj_koova

Is 12+ for only City driving or mixed?

Looks of interiors I would definitely vote for NHC.
But how do you rate the quality of plastic and other material used for interiors. I thought Mitsubishi is better. Also how do you rate the leather in both?

12+ only for City drive with/ without AC has not made much difference. Lowest I've got till date is 11.5kmpl. Have 45 odd speed breakers in my 22km run to office with new ones getting added every week.

I personally prefer lighter colour of Mitsu interiors. Car is more cheerful inside. Plastic quality is good. Only thing I didn't like was wood panel in the dashboard, but guess I'm used to it now.

Can not comment on quality leather since I drive Select.

20th February 2008, 04:31	#31
Torque123 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 487 Thanked: 1,098 Times	Hey buddy, Go for Ford Fiesta 1.6 SXI or Zxi. 1.6 Zxi is VFM. You will never regret for buying this car.
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14th March 2008, 23:22	#32
sj_koova BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 677 Thanked: 623 Times View My Garage	Buying a new car below 10Lakhs - cedia or NHC Vtec Plus Hello all, I am planning to buy a new sedan through company lease program very soon (Will be by end of March or early April). My budget is up to 10 Lakhs after fully stretching (precisely 8-10L). Two cars I have considered are Mitsubishi Cedia Sports and NHC Vetc Plus. Now why am I writing this post! My heart is towards Cedia and mind is towards HNC. Big confusion isn't it I have test driven both and liked both for their own positives. What I want from my new car. And what I think about them. >Drive average 60km a day. (NHC may be better choice) >Often go for long drives. (Cedia scores) >Pretty decent FE. (NHC scores) >Good highway performance, pickup and comfort. (Cedia is better) >Good reputation and A.S.S (NHC scores well) >Safety (Airbag/ABS) (Both are equal) >Resale only after 4 years (NHS scores) Both dealers have quoted 10Lakhs (NHC Vetc Plus and Cedia sports). Still negotiating with both of them. I know NHC is over priced by at least 1Lakhs. But still think they demand it for the FE/A.S.S/reputation. I have test driven SX4 also. I did not like this car for many reasons. Corolla is one car I never want to own (decision after driving it in US). Optra Magnum is out of budget. Cedia would have been best choice for me if Mitsubishi had reputation and FE as Honda does. Cedia's 2L (1999 cc) SOHC engine delivering only 115bhp is also a big concern for me. Is it good or bad? Some say it is good as the engine is not fully stretched. Cedia have compensated it with better torque though. Sales rep said they had tuned it for India, but no clue what kind of tuning has gone in. I can't wait for new cars as company lease program closes in April. Cedia, NHC Vtec owners and experts, your views are important for me.
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15th March 2008, 00:02	#33
sj_koova BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 677 Thanked: 623 Times View My Garage	Hello mods, I placed my previous post as a fresh thread, but I see it has been appended to an existing thread. Would you please split my thread.
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15th March 2008, 09:19	#34
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,302 Thanked: 12,548 Times	sj koova the cedia makes more sense. the nhc is completely overpriced. also if you do enjoy driving then i dont know why your considering it? the vtec engine is nice but the rest of the car dilutes the effect. the overlight steering, the looks. the only plus point i can think of is the rear legroom. the *** is not supposed to be that bad from what people on tbhp say. the nhc will give good fe but its not like the cedia will empty your pockets. youll also get lots of performance parts for the lancer.
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15th March 2008, 10:23	#36
RajaTaurus Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Tenkasi, TN Posts: 1,119 Thanked: 482 Times View My Garage	Sure you would have gone through all the cedizen's threads here on team-bhp. My last word will be, you want to drive yourself, go for Cedia Spirit (As your wife hates black interiors). There is no other diff between Spirit and Sports except the interior color, front and rear air dam and the spoiler. Service after sales...? I am still treated like a prince in ACT India. Even a few scratches on the sides, they did for me FREE. And I heard only good about the b'mlore dealers of Cedia. (Don't fo by the general belief.. Ask the b'lore Cedia owners for hand-son experience of Service...
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15th March 2008, 22:31	#38
agbenny BANNED Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: TN38 Posts: 1,082 Thanked: 293 Times	Diesal - Hyundai Verna. Pertol - SX4. You won't regret with any of them!
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17th March 2008, 00:50	#40
Chat BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore / Manila Posts: 121 Thanked: 2 Times	SJ, I was all for red Sports Cedia but somehow couldn't convince my wife for its black interiors and finally bought silver Select variant. However, you could ask the dealer to give you beige seats in Sports variant. One of my colleagues did the same and the dealer, Lathangi, obliged. Having said that, pls be sure they would change only the seats and wouldn't be able to do anything to the rest of the interiors. See if that could help you convince your wife Or else, Spirit or Select variant would do. As for Honda City, it is a sheer waste of money. I test drove it immediately after driving Cedia and almost offended their Sales Manager by saying what rubbish car it is and he should quit his job at Honda for Mitsubishi.
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17th March 2008, 08:40	#41
RROD BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bengalooru Posts: 276 Thanked: 182 Times	I'd have gone for the Cedia sports blindfolded, if i wouldn't have reduced my Budget, and i dint want the Spirit or Select. Cedia sports costs 10L OTR bangalore. I got the Fiesta 1.6 SXi instead for 7.9 OTR b'lore and i absolutely love it.
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17th March 2008, 09:15	#42
megger BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 156 Thanked: 4 Times	SJ Go for NHC Vtec if you want to look good. If you want to have great driving experience, then consider Cedia. I am consistently getting 12+ kmpl with Cedia and it is due for second service now.
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