Whis is the best second hand Diesel car?

ForeRunner · 19th June 2008, 16:13

Hi Everybody,

I want to buy a used diesel car. My budget is 3.0 lakhs. I have shortlisted Lancer GLXD/SLXD, Palio 1.9 D and Ikon 1.8D as my options. Can anybody give me some suggestion on each of the option (pros and cons). My preferences on this purchase is Low cost of ownership, good quality (both build and ride) and a decent resale value. I am open to your views on the following points.
1. Is this a good idea (buying a used diesel car)
2. If the answer is yes for the above question what care should be taken while buying one.

Thanks,

Jeep · 19th June 2008, 16:22

You can safely remove Ikon 1.8D from the list. It is known to be a problematic one (however, you will get one for much lesser than 3L).
Of the other two, palio 1.9 is my pick (unless you need that boot). Accent CRDi is a better one however you may not get a good one for 3 lakhs. Not sure why Indigo is not in your list? Indigo should retain better resale value than Palio

>>1. Is this a good idea (buying a used diesel car)

Not really, unless you know that the car odo reading is correct, and that the owner has taken good care of the car.

>>2. If the answer is yes for the above question what care should be taken while buying one.

Need to take it to a mechanic. Need to check the health of the engine as well as the injectors. I am told that fuel injectors are very expensive. Would be advisable to check the car early in the morning (for cold starts).
Dieselheads, please advise!

Eddy · 19th June 2008, 16:25

Welcome to the forum. Please go through these articles

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/buying...-used-car.html

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/buying...car-india.html

Apart from these, there are a lot of threads running on each of the cars that you mentioned above. Please search and you will find a lot of info.

On a personal note, please avoid a Ford 1.8D since it will be fairly expensive to maintain.

shuvd · 19th June 2008, 16:33

IMHO, stay away from the Ikon 1.8. I have suffered a lot with that car.
See if you can find a really old Elantra.

greenhorn · 19th June 2008, 16:37

how about an indica? In fact, if you stretch your budget a bit , you can buy one new. Thats what I ended up doing. started with a 3L budget , but ended up buying a new indica ( and a turbo at that

). I think I made the right decision

ForeRunner · 19th June 2008, 16:45

Hi Jeep,
Thanks for your valuable inputs.
My dad already has an Indica and I feet the quality of TATA cars is poor. I think except FE and Low maintenance cost we can't expect anything from Indica.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeep

Not sure why Indigo is not in your list? Indigo should retain better resale value than Palio

19th June 2008, 17:29

the lancer diesel, though slow, is quite reliable.
of course, you will have to get it checked out by a mechanic who's knowlegable and trustworthy.

are you sure you dont want a new indica?

please stay away from the ikon.

abhinav.gupta88 · 19th June 2008, 17:36

Try for a Swift Diesel too. it will be good if you can get a good one

vkochar · 19th June 2008, 17:39

Go for an Accent CRDi - At that price you can find one with luck.

Other cars are a No No !!

snaronikar · 19th June 2008, 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhinav.gupta88

Try for a Swift Diesel too. it will be good if you can get a good one

Swift Diesel is not available at 3L. The owners are not willing to part their ways with DDiS. For Swift coming into 2nd hand market will take some more time and that to for 3L is impossible unless the owner wishes to sell it.

greenhorn · 19th June 2008, 18:01

ForeRunner, which is your dad's indica's Vintage? They hugely improved compared to the earlier models

barcode · 19th June 2008, 20:17

Hey ForeRunner! Welcome to Team-Bhp...

First, tell us, why you are thinking of buying a used car... Is it the sound of the diesel or the sound of the money that you'd save by driving a diesel?

IMHO Since there is a premium on Swift Diesel Hatchback, it would be difficult to find a used one for even 4L

Accent CRDi is your best bet, followed by Indica. Other cars like Lancer, Ikon etc., maybe too expensive to maintain with parts that are hard to find too!

GTO - Touring · 19th June 2008, 20:47

I'd suggest:

1. Palio D : Simply construction and incredibly robust.

2. Indigo : Either a used example, or you can stretch for a new Indigo CS.

pgsagar · 19th June 2008, 21:12

Of the three, Lancer would be the best. Pick up is slow but engine is very trouble-free and reliable. Most silent among diesels and fastest cold starts. In fact it starts better than even a petrol car. I have seen one here which has logged nearly 5 lakh KMs and still no work on engine is done, apart from the standard Mitsubishi 1 lakh km service where they change timing belt, pulleys etc. But finding a good used diesel car is a tough task.

karanraheja · 19th June 2008, 21:51

Lancer - If you spot a used Lancer it ll have lot of km s done. Not easy
to spot less km done lancer.

Palio D- Wins hands down for build quality but loses when it comes to resale.

Ikon D- Just forget this car . It ll be quite expensive to maintain.

Instead

2nd hand Accent CRDI -Not sure you will get a well maintained Crdi @ 3l.
But this should be the best buy IMO.

19th June 2008, 16:13	#1
ForeRunner BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 100 Thanked: 4 Times	Whis is the best second hand Diesel car? Hi Everybody, I want to buy a used diesel car. My budget is 3.0 lakhs. I have shortlisted Lancer GLXD/SLXD, Palio 1.9 D and Ikon 1.8D as my options. Can anybody give me some suggestion on each of the option (pros and cons). My preferences on this purchase is Low cost of ownership, good quality (both build and ride) and a decent resale value. I am open to your views on the following points. 1. Is this a good idea (buying a used diesel car) 2. If the answer is yes for the above question what care should be taken while buying one. Thanks,
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19th June 2008, 16:22	#2
Jeep BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Posts: 438 Thanked: 67 Times	You can safely remove Ikon 1.8D from the list. It is known to be a problematic one (however, you will get one for much lesser than 3L). Of the other two, palio 1.9 is my pick (unless you need that boot). Accent CRDi is a better one however you may not get a good one for 3 lakhs. Not sure why Indigo is not in your list? Indigo should retain better resale value than Palio >>1. Is this a good idea (buying a used diesel car) Not really, unless you know that the car odo reading is correct, and that the owner has taken good care of the car. >>2. If the answer is yes for the above question what care should be taken while buying one. Need to take it to a mechanic. Need to check the health of the engine as well as the injectors. I am told that fuel injectors are very expensive. Would be advisable to check the car early in the morning (for cold starts). Dieselheads, please advise!
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19th June 2008, 16:25	#3
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 9,387 Thanked: 13,301 Times	Welcome to the forum. Please go through these articles http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/buying...-used-car.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/buying...car-india.html Apart from these, there are a lot of threads running on each of the cars that you mentioned above. Please search and you will find a lot of info. On a personal note, please avoid a Ford 1.8D since it will be fairly expensive to maintain.
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19th June 2008, 16:33	#4
shuvd Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 1,081 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	IMHO, stay away from the Ikon 1.8. I have suffered a lot with that car. See if you can find a really old Elantra.
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19th June 2008, 16:37	#5
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,401 Times View My Garage	how about an indica? In fact, if you stretch your budget a bit , you can buy one new. Thats what I ended up doing. started with a 3L budget , but ended up buying a new indica ( and a turbo at that ). I think I made the right decision
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19th June 2008, 17:29	#7
rippergeo Posts: n/a	the lancer diesel, though slow, is quite reliable. of course, you will have to get it checked out by a mechanic who's knowlegable and trustworthy. are you sure you dont want a new indica? please stay away from the ikon.
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19th June 2008, 17:36	#8
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Try for a Swift Diesel too. it will be good if you can get a good one
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19th June 2008, 17:39	#9
vkochar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi / Agra / London Posts: 2,146 Thanked: 819 Times View My Garage	Go for an Accent CRDi - At that price you can find one with luck. Other cars are a No No !!
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19th June 2008, 18:01	#11
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,401 Times View My Garage	ForeRunner, which is your dad's indica's Vintage? They hugely improved compared to the earlier models
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19th June 2008, 20:17	#12
barcode BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 182 Thanked: 14 Times	Hey ForeRunner! Welcome to Team-Bhp... First, tell us, why you are thinking of buying a used car... Is it the sound of the diesel or the sound of the money that you'd save by driving a diesel? IMHO Since there is a premium on Swift Diesel Hatchback, it would be difficult to find a used one for even 4L Accent CRDi is your best bet, followed by Indica. Other cars like Lancer, Ikon etc., maybe too expensive to maintain with parts that are hard to find too!
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19th June 2008, 20:47	#13
GTO - Touring BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 710 Thanked: 54 Times	I'd suggest: 1. Palio D : Simply construction and incredibly robust. 2. Indigo : Either a used example, or you can stretch for a new Indigo CS.
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19th June 2008, 21:12	#14
pgsagar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Vizag Posts: 2,628 Thanked: 3,568 Times View My Garage	Of the three, Lancer would be the best. Pick up is slow but engine is very trouble-free and reliable. Most silent among diesels and fastest cold starts. In fact it starts better than even a petrol car. I have seen one here which has logged nearly 5 lakh KMs and still no work on engine is done, apart from the standard Mitsubishi 1 lakh km service where they change timing belt, pulleys etc. But finding a good used diesel car is a tough task.
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19th June 2008, 21:51	#15
karanraheja Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 436 Times	Lancer - If you spot a used Lancer it ll have lot of km s done. Not easy to spot less km done lancer. Palio D- Wins hands down for build quality but loses when it comes to resale. Ikon D- Just forget this car . It ll be quite expensive to maintain. Instead 2nd hand Accent CRDI -Not sure you will get a well maintained Crdi @ 3l. But this should be the best buy IMO.
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