Hyundai i20 or Indigo Manza

hpzone · 30th November 2009, 03:37

I am planning to get a new car in the New Year and narrowed down the options to i20 CRDI ASTA and MANZA Ara+ Quadrajet. I had a look at the forums and no comparison between the two. I know you will ask me to decide between a sedan and hatchback first. But it doesn't really matter for me. I need a family car that

Good space for 5
reliable
good FE
500KM in city + 500 on highway per month
ABS+2 Airbag
low maintenance costs

I took test drive on both cars here is my summary

I20 - Pros
Style
Powerful Engine
Interior finish

i20 -Cons
Poor backseat comfort
luggage space

MANZA - Pros
Space, Space, Space
Big boot
Blue 5

MANZA - Cons
Tata Sales Support
Unproven reliability

I am almost inclined towards MANZA but not really sure about the reliability of this car. My wife will be using the car 50% of the time.

Please share any thoughts on these or if I have missed any crucial points to be considered. It will also be nice to get some expert opinion on After sales and support of Huyndai and Tata in Cochin. Many thanks in advance.

SumitBahl · 30th November 2009, 10:35

Manza has good interiors and lots of space.
I have not driven it yet, so I cannot comment of the engine. But, its same as in Linea. It should be good.

I am a fan of i20. I have driven one. Though, not as quick as verna or Getz CRDi, its still quick. Some turbo lag is there.
It will offer you some extra features like electrically foldable ORVMs, curtain airbags, sunroof (optional) over manza.
Boot size is decent (Definitely not comparable to Manza).

I would choose i20.
I am not a huge fan of Manza's looks. Front is fine, rear is not that good.

neoonwheels · 30th November 2009, 11:00

Should not this be in the "What car" section than in the Indian car scene?

extreme_torque · 30th November 2009, 11:04

I dunno, speaking for myself I would have gone for the i20 or better still the Punto over the Manza. If you wont be using the boot much, my choice would be the i20.

pb10gagan · 30th November 2009, 11:04

wrong section, more work for mods.

but anyways, i would not buy a TATA within first 6 months of its launch.

i simply detest being a guinea pig.

SumitBahl · 30th November 2009, 11:07

I agree with extreme_torque.
Why dont you TD a top of the line Emotion+ Punto MJD.
I would be going for Punto. It looks smashing in red.

harishnair · 30th November 2009, 11:35

As your wife will also be using the car, I would say to for the Hyundai i20. As Sumit pointed out, you could also consider the Punto Diesel (emotion PK) which has all the features including the Blue & me and is much cheaper than the i20.
If rear seat comfort and boot space is what you are looking for then nothing can beat the Manza.

PS- mods please shift this thread to "What car" section.

nairrk · 30th November 2009, 11:50

i20 is definitely a good hatchback with all sophasticated features loaded.
Ofcourse there is a competition between Punto and i20 but as far as the A.S.S are concerned i20 scores better. This is qutie compact car and your wife will love to drive easily/comfortably.
However if you are space conscious (5 people on board with lot of luggages)then better for for a sedan. Manza seems good car (as per the test drive reports) but it is newly introduced and ownership experiences are yet to be reported.?

clevermax · 30th November 2009, 11:50

I think today is the day of weird comparisons on t-bhp
There is another thread going on for "Jazz OR Linea"

rpmx1000 · 30th November 2009, 12:05

I would say:Manza it is.
I would not find too much difference in a i20CRDI and a Manza given spec-wise
they are almost the same.I would say a bit of a difference in the top speed because the i20 is a hatch.
Turbo lag is not an issue in the manza (from personal experience as well as lots
of opinions on GTO's manza test drive thread)

I test drove an i20 sometime back and was very disappointed with the steering feel.The car feels dead to drive and extremely insulated.Any car needs to communicate _something_ back to the driver.I think the turbo lag is also an issue.

Over a long term there's not much to choose between the two that you'll really notice, but if space and ride quality and cost of maintenance are factors that you would consider , go for a Manza.The i20 in contrast feels rather claustrophobic.My wife was cribbing throughout our test drive.We have an Indica , mind you.The interiors are expected to be that much better on the i20.They are'nt.

The i20 has also not been in the market long enough to be a "tried-and-tested" car.From the amount of testing that has gone into the manza , I think it was mentioned that Tata has done about 25 lakh Kms on it.

All the above is my subjective personal opinion."Feel" wise, the i20 dosen't score on my list at all.

vkochar · 30th November 2009, 14:25

Go for the Manza.

The i20 is a hatch and it remains that.

Manza gives you space, a boot, and very good value for money. The i20 CRDi is a brilliant car and a very smart looking one too BUT it's too pricey in my opinion.

Ramsagar · 30th November 2009, 15:03

I would first recommend a petrol vehicle than a diesel version.
If you are more inclined towards diesel then my heart goes for i20.
TD putno & Linea as well.

I personally regret Manza. Sorry this is not to offend anyone.

vedantvarma · 30th November 2009, 19:16

All your requirements point to only one car ... Indigo Manza. I dont know what price range you are looking at but assuming that it is 6-7 lakhs, Manza seems the best choice.

hpzone · 30th November 2009, 19:45

Thanks for the input guys, sorry for the wrong section.

I did consider Punto initially, it was good with the Diwali offer. Now no offers and they were talking about a price hike soon. For 50K difference I will go for i20 compared to Punto.

Regarding MANZA's looks its good from front and side, for real looks a spoiler might do the work to distract eyes!

I will wait till end of December to get any feedback on MANZA.

jkdas · 30th November 2009, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by harishnair

As your wife will also be using the car, I would say to for the Hyundai i20. As Sumit pointed out, you could also consider the Punto Diesel (emotion PK) which has all the features including the Blue & me and is much cheaper than the i20.
If rear seat comfort and boot space is what you are looking for then nothing can beat the Manza.

PS- mods please shift this thread to "What car" section.

A contradicting statement IMHO, how better is the Punto's rear seat comfort and spaciousness when you compare with the i20 ?

Nothing to beat the Manza for these under 10lacOTR in India.

Quote:

Originally Posted by clevermax

I think today is the day of weird comparisons on t-bhp
There is another thread going on for "Jazz OR Linea"

Linea can be a contender but the Jazz???

Quote:

Originally Posted by vedantvarma

All your requirements point to only one car ... Indigo Manza. I dont know what price range you are looking at but assuming that it is 6-7 lakhs, Manza seems the best choice.

Yes, if price is a concern, Manza score again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hpzone

Thanks for the input guys, sorry for the wrong section.

I did consider Punto initially, it was good with the Diwali offer. Now no offers and they were talking about a price hike soon. For 50K difference I will go for i20 compared to Punto.

Regarding MANZA's looks its good from front and side, for real looks a spoiler might do the work to distract eyes!

I will wait till end of December to get any feedback on MANZA.

Now, diesel or petrol?

30th November 2009, 03:37	#1
hpzone BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 142 Thanked: 2 Times	Hyundai i20 or Indigo Manza I am planning to get a new car in the New Year and narrowed down the options to i20 CRDI ASTA and MANZA Ara+ Quadrajet. I had a look at the forums and no comparison between the two. I know you will ask me to decide between a sedan and hatchback first. But it doesn't really matter for me. I need a family car that Good space for 5 reliable good FE 500KM in city + 500 on highway per month ABS+2 Airbag low maintenance costs I took test drive on both cars here is my summary I20 - Pros Style Powerful Engine Interior finish i20 -Cons Poor backseat comfort luggage space MANZA - Pros Space, Space, Space Big boot Blue 5 MANZA - Cons Tata Sales Support Unproven reliability I am almost inclined towards MANZA but not really sure about the reliability of this car. My wife will be using the car 50% of the time. Please share any thoughts on these or if I have missed any crucial points to be considered. It will also be nice to get some expert opinion on After sales and support of Huyndai and Tata in Cochin. Many thanks in advance.
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30th November 2009, 10:35	#2
SumitBahl BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 976 Thanked: 230 Times View My Garage	Manza has good interiors and lots of space. I have not driven it yet, so I cannot comment of the engine. But, its same as in Linea. It should be good. I am a fan of i20. I have driven one. Though, not as quick as verna or Getz CRDi, its still quick. Some turbo lag is there. It will offer you some extra features like electrically foldable ORVMs, curtain airbags, sunroof (optional) over manza. Boot size is decent (Definitely not comparable to Manza). I would choose i20. I am not a huge fan of Manza's looks. Front is fine, rear is not that good.
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30th November 2009, 11:00	#3
neoonwheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 2,065 Thanked: 1,877 Times View My Garage	Should not this be in the "What car" section than in the Indian car scene?
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30th November 2009, 11:04	#4
extreme_torque Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 4,377 Thanked: 5,105 Times	I dunno, speaking for myself I would have gone for the i20 or better still the Punto over the Manza. If you wont be using the boot much, my choice would be the i20.
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30th November 2009, 11:04	#5
pb10gagan BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Construction Capital Posts: 370 Thanked: 13 Times	wrong section, more work for mods. but anyways, i would not buy a TATA within first 6 months of its launch. i simply detest being a guinea pig.
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30th November 2009, 11:07	#6
SumitBahl BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 976 Thanked: 230 Times View My Garage	I agree with extreme_torque. Why dont you TD a top of the line Emotion+ Punto MJD. I would be going for Punto. It looks smashing in red.
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30th November 2009, 11:35	#7
harishnair BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Quilon/ Sharjah Posts: 511 Thanked: 5 Times	As your wife will also be using the car, I would say to for the Hyundai i20. As Sumit pointed out, you could also consider the Punto Diesel (emotion PK) which has all the features including the Blue & me and is much cheaper than the i20. If rear seat comfort and boot space is what you are looking for then nothing can beat the Manza. PS- mods please shift this thread to "What car" section. Last edited by harishnair : 30th November 2009 at 11:44.
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30th November 2009, 11:50	#8
nairrk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kannur Posts: 2,441 Thanked: 674 Times View My Garage	i20 is definitely a good hatchback with all sophasticated features loaded. Ofcourse there is a competition between Punto and i20 but as far as the A.S.S are concerned i20 scores better. This is qutie compact car and your wife will love to drive easily/comfortably. However if you are space conscious (5 people on board with lot of luggages)then better for for a sedan. Manza seems good car (as per the test drive reports) but it is newly introduced and ownership experiences are yet to be reported.?
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30th November 2009, 11:50	#9
clevermax Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tvm/Amsterdam Posts: 2,086 Thanked: 2,640 Times View My Garage	I think today is the day of weird comparisons on t-bhp There is another thread going on for "Jazz OR Linea"
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30th November 2009, 12:05	#10
rpmx1000 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 396 Thanked: 36 Times	I would say:Manza it is. I would not find too much difference in a i20CRDI and a Manza given spec-wise they are almost the same.I would say a bit of a difference in the top speed because the i20 is a hatch. Turbo lag is not an issue in the manza (from personal experience as well as lots of opinions on GTO's manza test drive thread) I test drove an i20 sometime back and was very disappointed with the steering feel.The car feels dead to drive and extremely insulated.Any car needs to communicate _something_ back to the driver.I think the turbo lag is also an issue. Over a long term there's not much to choose between the two that you'll really notice, but if space and ride quality and cost of maintenance are factors that you would consider , go for a Manza.The i20 in contrast feels rather claustrophobic.My wife was cribbing throughout our test drive.We have an Indica , mind you.The interiors are expected to be that much better on the i20.They are'nt. The i20 has also not been in the market long enough to be a "tried-and-tested" car.From the amount of testing that has gone into the manza , I think it was mentioned that Tata has done about 25 lakh Kms on it. All the above is my subjective personal opinion."Feel" wise, the i20 dosen't score on my list at all. Last edited by rpmx1000 : 30th November 2009 at 12:07. Reason: readability
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30th November 2009, 14:25	#11
vkochar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi / Agra / London Posts: 2,146 Thanked: 819 Times View My Garage	Go for the Manza. The i20 is a hatch and it remains that. Manza gives you space, a boot, and very good value for money. The i20 CRDi is a brilliant car and a very smart looking one too BUT it's too pricey in my opinion.
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30th November 2009, 15:03	#12
Ramsagar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: BLR_Nellore(AP) Posts: 1,396 Thanked: 252 Times View My Garage	I would first recommend a petrol vehicle than a diesel version. If you are more inclined towards diesel then my heart goes for i20. TD putno & Linea as well. I personally regret Manza. Sorry this is not to offend anyone.
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30th November 2009, 19:16	#13
vedantvarma Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 14 Thanked: 0 Times	All your requirements point to only one car ... Indigo Manza. I dont know what price range you are looking at but assuming that it is 6-7 lakhs, Manza seems the best choice.
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30th November 2009, 19:45	#14
hpzone BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 142 Thanked: 2 Times	Thanks for the input guys, sorry for the wrong section. I did consider Punto initially, it was good with the Diwali offer. Now no offers and they were talking about a price hike soon. For 50K difference I will go for i20 compared to Punto. Regarding MANZA's looks its good from front and side, for real looks a spoiler might do the work to distract eyes! I will wait till end of December to get any feedback on MANZA.
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