Run your car on WATER

?ushk@r · 15th October 2005, 07:55

Hi TBhpians

Was just going thru eBay India n came across this item listed.

Item number: 6441632130

streetlife · 15th October 2005, 09:36

sounds intresting...

?ushk@r · 15th October 2005, 09:56

ya man...but dont know if its a success or failure

manu · 15th October 2005, 10:47

If you see it says in the listing that they are giving "plans only", no actual equipment.

I know that hydrogen cells are a hot research topic among scientists and R&D divisions of major auto companies.

I do NOT think that this is a DIY (Do It Yourself) concept as of now.

EVO6 · 17th October 2005, 15:06

One can get plans manufacture hydrogen fuel cells anywhere on the net.. But has anyone thot about the cost implication and anyways its not a proven system as yet that the system will work...
So i think its just a big farce...
Cheers

GTO - Touring · 17th October 2005, 17:33

Nice way to make some money. Am putting up another for sale thread which reads " Run your car ONLY on air"

GTO

devarshi84 · 18th October 2005, 02:52

nothin doing till it is all public and proven.

?ushk@r · 19th October 2005, 13:37

I think BMW has a Hydrogen car. Will the same specifications go here?

veyron1 · 19th October 2005, 14:09

the book appears to be on the principle of hydrogen combustion- and that, is definitely possible; this's a different concept from that of the hydrogen fuel cell- in a hydrogen fuel cell, hydrogen and oxygen ions combine to produce high electricity, which is powering a electric motor; in the "electrolysis" process, H and O are separated using electricity, and is directed to a internal combustion engine, which, functions as per the norm.

now, the pros-

a) excellent calorific value from H, so much more power possible from a similar displacement gasoline engine.
b) the cleanest possible combustion.
c) extremely environment friendly, and much more efficient.
d) maybe hydrogen powered cars could outrun gas or methanol powered dragsters...

cons-

a) hydrogen isn't that easy to be electrolysed- almost 85 KWH of electricity is needed to produce 1 kg of hydrogen.
b) although much better, H is also extremely inflammable- meaning, controlled combustion is a tedious task- a lot of forged components will have to be involved...
c) the electrolysis process takes a little time; so the electrolysis chamber would have to be constantly supplied with high voltage, and the production of H may not be proportional to the rate of consumption of engine...

etc...etc...

but DAMN...i had an idea like this a long time back; in fact, i still did till about two- three years ago, until i found out that somebody else was already into it, somewhere in atlantica or something... i believe i had posted a note about this on a thread, "alternate fuels" somewhere else on the forum...

a great idea, though- and somebody is already working on it, which means that we could see a fully functional prototype in a couple of years...

p.s- i don't trust that ebay item, though....

a long time back (more than 15 years ago), my dad had seen an ad in a paper, in delhi, quoting a "new generation mosquito-terminating machine". after sending some petty amount as money order, we received that "new generation mosquito terminating machine" - a fly swatter....

now this could be something on the same lines...

15th October 2005, 07:55	#1
?ushk@r BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ahmedabad, Gujarat Posts: 292 Thanked: 10 Times View My Garage	Run your car on WATER Hi TBhpians Was just going thru eBay India n came across this item listed. Item number: 6441632130
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15th October 2005, 09:36	#2
streetlife BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New Delhi, India Posts: 218 Thanked: 22 Times View My Garage	sounds intresting...
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15th October 2005, 09:56	#3
?ushk@r BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ahmedabad, Gujarat Posts: 292 Thanked: 10 Times View My Garage	ya man...but dont know if its a success or failure
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15th October 2005, 10:47	#4
manu BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 67 Thanked: 25 Times	If you see it says in the listing that they are giving "plans only", no actual equipment. I know that hydrogen cells are a hot research topic among scientists and R&D divisions of major auto companies. I do NOT think that this is a DIY (Do It Yourself) concept as of now.
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17th October 2005, 15:06	#5
EVO6 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 488 Thanked: 13 Times	One can get plans manufacture hydrogen fuel cells anywhere on the net.. But has anyone thot about the cost implication and anyways its not a proven system as yet that the system will work... So i think its just a big farce... Cheers
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17th October 2005, 17:33	#6
GTO - Touring BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 709 Thanked: 56 Times	Nice way to make some money. Am putting up another for sale thread which reads " Run your car ONLY on air" GTO
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18th October 2005, 02:52	#7
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 213 Times View My Garage	nothin doing till it is all public and proven.
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19th October 2005, 13:37	#8
?ushk@r BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ahmedabad, Gujarat Posts: 292 Thanked: 10 Times View My Garage	I think BMW has a Hydrogen car. Will the same specifications go here?
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19th October 2005, 14:09	#9
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 54 Times View My Garage	the book appears to be on the principle of hydrogen combustion- and that, is definitely possible; this's a different concept from that of the hydrogen fuel cell- in a hydrogen fuel cell, hydrogen and oxygen ions combine to produce high electricity, which is powering a electric motor; in the "electrolysis" process, H and O are separated using electricity, and is directed to a internal combustion engine, which, functions as per the norm. now, the pros- a) excellent calorific value from H, so much more power possible from a similar displacement gasoline engine. b) the cleanest possible combustion. c) extremely environment friendly, and much more efficient. d) maybe hydrogen powered cars could outrun gas or methanol powered dragsters... cons- a) hydrogen isn't that easy to be electrolysed- almost 85 KWH of electricity is needed to produce 1 kg of hydrogen. b) although much better, H is also extremely inflammable- meaning, controlled combustion is a tedious task- a lot of forged components will have to be involved... c) the electrolysis process takes a little time; so the electrolysis chamber would have to be constantly supplied with high voltage, and the production of H may not be proportional to the rate of consumption of engine... etc...etc... but DAMN...i had an idea like this a long time back; in fact, i still did till about two- three years ago, until i found out that somebody else was already into it, somewhere in atlantica or something... i believe i had posted a note about this on a thread, "alternate fuels" somewhere else on the forum... a great idea, though- and somebody is already working on it, which means that we could see a fully functional prototype in a couple of years... p.s- i don't trust that ebay item, though.... a long time back (more than 15 years ago), my dad had seen an ad in a paper, in delhi, quoting a "new generation mosquito-terminating machine". after sending some petty amount as money order, we received that "new generation mosquito terminating machine" - a fly swatter.... now this could be something on the same lines...
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