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Originally Posted by SDP Wouldn't this depend upon:
1. Is the car FWD or RWD?
2. How is the weight distribution of the car (engine in front or rear)?
3. Handbrake controls which set of wheels? |
Hand brakes always control the rear wheels on almost all cars. And no, there is no co-relation with whether the car is fwd or rwd or what the weight distribution is. The fact of the matter is if the rear wheels are locked, they can go left or right because they have very less grip. So, even if the car is slightly out of line, the momentum pulls the car in that direction and the spin begins. And from the transcript of the recording of the accident, I recall it asking for has he tried to use handbrake and then the line went silent.
The weight distribution only decides how much violently the car spins. If it is perfect, you have a balanced car and so the angle it takes in a drift is maintained throughout making it a joy. If you have the wrong weight distribution, the respective side always tries to overdo and you have to correct it either with more throttle or more brakes.
As for the fwd/rwd debate, it is when you want to drift by breaking traction because of extreme high power output from the engine i.e. if you have front wheel drive and you spin up your wheels breaking traction, then you have effectively no steering and the car ploughs straight on into understeer. If it is rwd, then the rear wheels loose control and some steering input is overdone due to lack of grip in the rear tyres to keep it tracking straight which results in oversteer.
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Originally Posted by Dushyanth I'm sorry!
I disagree.
The very basic and fundamental thing that is taught while learning to drive a car is to no matter what, never let the car coast in neutral!
Unless there is an upward slope, this procedure takes a lot of time to bring the pace of the car down, and also hope that the road is free of traffic and is long enough so that you can get the car down to your desired speed(without colliding with other road users) so that you could bring the vehicle to a standstill. |
First thing is that we were debating about the crash in which his car was not shifting back into neutral. And by the way, the debate of neutral or not is because of the ghat roads and the temptation to turn off the keys.
When you are driving on a ghat road, people often hold the clutch, put it into neutral and apply the brakes. The brakes cook after sometime and you loose braking (which is the most important part of the car). Hence, they suggest you never to hold clutch frequently, not to shift into neutral and to practice engine braking. Also, if you encounter some emergency situation and you have to accelerate into the nearest exit to avoid mayhem, precious seconds are lost when you try to slot it in gear and then move away. Hence, don't coast in neutral. Also, people have the temptation to turn off the engine if it is in neutral(the next logical step for fuel savers which is entirely wrong). If the engine is turned off, we loose brake and steering assist. The car is still manageable but you need some power. It is not one finger light and people are surprised by that (by the way, it does not need tremendous power like wrestling a man but it needs two hands to turn). The brake too is hard and you may have to push it too hard to even make a difference.
I drive a non-power steering and a non-boosted brake Maruti 800 and I would still argue about whether we need to have power steering at all and the world is speaking about cruise control and rushing towards automation. I recently drove an activa and due to the absence of gears, it was tremendous joy. But I noticed how there was a lack of discipline even in my driving because of lack of any sense of parameters. When I had a bike, I knew the gears and hence I knew the speed I was going and stopped myself from going that extra bit hard. When there was a lack of any sense of speed or braking, I saw a gap and was racing down like in a video game. I often see the same behaviour in gearless scooty drivers.
BOTTOM LINE: The more isolated we are from the mechanical bits and feedback, the lesser educated and more helpless our reactions and driving becomes. So, for that reason, I hate automatic gearboxes because it robs the control from our car. It is solely my view and I do not want an argument on that in this thread.