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Hi guys,

To get an additional parking spot and save my car in the annual floods (check my flooded lane pics here), I'm thinking of getting a dual parking system installed.

- Any other options or alternatives to this dual-parking system?

- Please suggest brands, best practices, tips?

- Protection during floods would be great. Plus, I'll get an additional parking spot when we have lots of media cars. Both my building driveways are currently full (just with my cars + test-drive cars).

- I own the building, so space or permissions aren't a problem.

We have an existing thread, but that's a decade old. I'm sure the scene has improved in terms of offerings, technology & brands.

Video of the kind of system I have in mind, but am open to alternative thoughts. Many thanks in advance :thumbs up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L7hr4fni8U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdLr38BprQo

I am not qualified enough to comment on this setup. But looking at the video and the use case you mentioned, I have few thoughts.

Will this twin parking system be installed in open (without a shed/covering)? If so then you should look into how weather-resilient this setup is, when exposed to sun and rains. I have seen such set up only in closed areas and hence, my thought.

Also since you have two cars which need protection during flooding (while the Jeep stands tall come what may:) ), what happens to the second car? And if protection from flooding is the main purpose, how about using high lift jacks in such situations?

Hey! We manufacture electric motors for parking systems like these. Can hook you up with a company who could help.

I have been using stack parking by WOHR for more than 3 years now. Easy to operate, no nonsense. Needs maintenance, like greasing and normal checks not more than twice a year, just to be safe.

While my stack parking is in a podium, WOHR has an open system as well which will suit your building space.

TIPS:

• Keep operating the system, don't leave it in one position for long.
• Parking is in one direction, usually drive in to the stack with nose in, rather than backing up.
• Will need extra space for the oil reservoir and a MCB to be mounted somewhere nearby.
• Position the oil reservoir very close to the mechanism, so less need for pipes. The pipes can get damaged if there is too much movement around / over. If possible, have the pipes covered with a small layer of cement which can be chipped off during repairs.
• Check the capacity, these stack parkings are weight sensitive.

How much does this thing cost to install and operate?

Wouldn't a manual system be better? For example, the same system but with hand/foot operated gear and lever mechanism like the rolling shutters.

It is quite possible that when it rains heavily, the power supply to the building cuts off before the floods come in. When that happens there will be no way to raise the car unless you have a power generator.

While this looks like a very good solution, please do consider the following:

1. As samaspire has already stated, this system could potentially fail during floods or power outages.

2. The installation cost may be high, and it may require frequent greasing/servicing.

3. I have heard of a case Where this thing failed, and fell on a kid: https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/...w/69453379.cms

Considering the above, I would recommend you to consider a 'flood guard bag', something like this:
https://youtu.be/GV2ij8zAwTA

Although I couldn't find a link to buy one in India, but you can always pick one up when you happen to travel abroad.

There are many lift parking systems available. Spoke to a garage owner who uses a electric motor ramp at his workshop. Four key points:

1) You can't take the car down until electricity is restored. Also, in event of a component failure, the car on the upper deck may not be usable until technicians attend to the problem.

2) The base requires RCC pillars that go deep in the ground to ensure utmost rigidity and stability. Atleast for good quality ramps do ensure quality fitting. Four post ramps are better than two post ones (if available)

3) Do make sure none of the wiring bits are at ground level. Since your area is low lying and also close to the sea, the chances of damaged wiring causing failures is high. Also remember, your rat proofing will need to be redone atop the upper lift as also to protect your parking wiring. Being on the sea side you'll need copious amount of maintenance of the channels and drive systems to prevent rusting.

4) Use equipment suppliers like ATS Elgi who make automotive garage equipments for major OEM workshops. Reason: They are durable for repeated operations v/s pure parking system operators where the ramps go up and down once or twice a day. Garage equipments would be durable for multiple operations.

EDIT: On a side note, do get a lift system that can double up for car maintenance as well. Perhaps a car washer could be used by your building watchman to wash the car thereafter :D

Jeep has weathered all the floods in my lane :). No problem at all.

Thanks! Just so everyone else benefits, request to please share the contacts on this thread itself.

Thanks! Contacted & got their product PDF (attached at the end of this post).

I'm guessing anywhere between 2 - 3 lakhs which is cheap for a parking spot in Bombay.

Thanks! Will consider. More keen on the twin-parking system as it gives me an additional spot.

Thanks! Very useful. Will strongly consider electric vs hydraulic due to lesser maintenance.

In case it helps anyone else, sharing details that BHPian Blackwasp got in:

It’s a very good idea. A friend of mine recently got two of these installed at his home. Not sure about the brand.

Can this be used like a car garage hydraulic lift to service the underbody of the car? Is the bottom completely covered or can some bits be accessed?

This caught my eye from the PDF.


I'm sure Mumbai rarely sees such high temperatures, but I think the humidity is pretty high year round being a coastal city?
This is what I get from weatherspark.com



Would it entail more than regular maintenance?

Wow, this is good thread. While I don't have plans for the lift, but was always curious about the entire process. Like GTO pointed, this might be cheaper considering an extra parking space in city like Bombay.

We have been using the WOHR park lifts for several years across our locations and have been reliable and user friendly. Does not need a lot of maintenance and the personnel are available to assist if needed.

Considering your location (proximity to sea and rodents issue) would advise additional safety measures to be taken for the wirings. Below are a few pics of Lalbagh and Turbhe workshop.

Here you go, NKL Car Parking Systems LLP, Mr Shailesh 9867750018.
This is the best way to double/triple a parking space. Can be dismantled and moved to another place too.

I have been using WOHR parking for the past two years. It is a 2300 KG capacity system and I used to keep my Tiguan on top as it was not a daily driver. It worked well always except for one incident. When I was trying to bring down the car, only one of the side locking mechanism released and the platform started tilting towards one side (see the picture). I have stopped immediately and called WOHR service, they have reached within an hour and managed to bring down the car without further problems.

The technician explained that the lock did not release due to an error in handling the mechanism by me. While operating the system I have turned the key a couple of times very quickly stupid:(something like when you try "inching", those who have operated machines like Cranes would know) and the electro- mechanic lock did not function properly on account of this.

The system was working flawlessly except for the above incident and another minor issue of a blown fuse (which again WOHR guys attended quickly). However I stopped parking the Tiguan on top after the lock issue, and started parking the Alto on the upper deck.:)