[OffRoadFun]

Originally Posted by ramnaresh_2000

Can't keep the gate open. We don't live in a gated community and the roads are open with zero security. Any intruder can enter inside the house if they are open.



Lol what public footpath? There isn't any public footpath laid putside my house by municipality officials. The slope is well within our own land on registration papers. Our house is in a very remote location for even to be considered for a footpath. Forget about footpath, we don't even have street lights in our lane.

Whatever spin you put, you are squatting on public/common land, which is not meant for permanent structure, in addition to adding to poor aesthetics of the neighborhood. Oh wait, we don't know any such things. Misaligned boundaries are ubiquitous, why not one more!

No one in India leaves anything for public area, hard to believe the area belongs to the owner but the wall was not extended till the legally allocated area.

At the very minimum, "LoL don't care" is avoidable.

[Narendranath]

Originally Posted by OffRoadFun

Whatever spin you put, you are squatting on public/common land, which is not meant for permanent structure, in addition to adding to poor aesthetics of the neighborhood. Oh wait, we don't know any such things. Misaligned boundaries are ubiquitous, why not one more!

No one in India leaves anything for public area, hard to believe the area belongs to the owner but the wall was not extended till the legally allocated area.

At the very minimum, "LoL don't care" is avoidable.

We have to go by the information given by the OP and it would be ill-advised to give free reign to our imagination. Going by the given information the land on which the ramp has been constructed belongs to the owner of the house. This may well be true given the lax regulations in our municipal areas.

[PreludeSH]

When layouts are planned, there is a rule which says how much roads/open spaces it needs to have. Once done and if its handed over with payment to authorities for maintaining, its public. I see a manhole covering very close to the house. That cannot be private. There also needs to be a storm water drain next to compound at the end of road which I don't see

Ultimately depends if the layout is still private and walled. But, since we have seen these kind of gates everywhere and its part of adjustment, it only depends on what one feels. We cant judge people.

[irdevanand]

Originally Posted by ramnaresh_2000

Bhpians, need some advice and your valuable inputs on parking my Phoenix inside my home.

Hi Ram

I was in a similar situation and browsed through all the solutions you have mentioned. The best of the lot is this. Check this video. Convert 2 piece doors into 6 piece zig zag doors that solve this problem with less eye sore. The doors will be same as before without car.

https://youtu.be/o6PU_GayriY

Also this is not a permanent change so i don't think the authorities will be a problem. But i am not sure.

Regards
Dev

[SS-Traveller]

I'm curious to know - do these 5-foot-tall gates actually provide any additional security? A determined thief can climb over such a gate in 10 seconds, break into one's car, grab something expensive, and be gone in another minute, without the gate posing as any kind of deterrent. Only, he can't drive / tow away the entire car - but that's what insurance and electronic alarm & security systems built into the car are for. In my city, cars worth a few million rupees are parked on the street, and theft of entire cars is not so common. OTOH, a few CCTV cameras with a warning board saying You are under CCTV surveillance act as a bigger deterrent.

[ramnaresh_2000]

Originally Posted by irdevanand

Convert 2 piece doors into 6 piece zig zag doors that solve this problem with less eye sore. The doors will be same as before without car.

This is really a good idea. However, after consulting the gate welder, he said the space we had was not enough to accommodate this 3 fold mechanism. Was really disappointed and went ahead with the traditional extension format.

I will let the pictures do the talking.

The gates have arrived.



Initial adjustments.



Parked my vehicle for testing. All good.



Right side gap.



Front gap. Enough space to clean vehicle inside



Outside view



Tyre stopper installation in progress.



Tyres stopper fully installed. Got 6 inch screw style bolts with them, the installer was not confident so we got 9 inch bombay nails (yes you read it right, they are called bombay nails for some reason here).



Inside view. Now the 2nd issue, the extended area is not covered. So we had to install a metal shed or awnings. Went ahead with awnings installation.



Awning installation completed. Painting in progress.



Front view after awning installation.



Top view after awning installation.



Inside view of awning.



Final inside front view.



Final side view.



Final ouside view after painting, awning installation and car parking.



The outcome I was waiting for a long time.



Total cost breakdown:

Gates plus installation: 45,000/-
Awning plus installation: 12,500/-
Painting: 4,000/-
Tyre Stopper: 700/-
Old gates buy back - got 5,500/- bucks (1kg was 36 bucks).

Was fully satisfied with the outcome. Is my vehicle fully protected from outside elements like rain and sun? No, but 85% better than parking on road.

Some people are going to hate it, but the love for my ride is above all that negativity

[Amrik Singh]

1. Horizontal Bars / Tubes / Rods in Gates are as good as a step ladder for any intruder to enter and exit.
2. Peeping through the Gaps between horizontal members give uninterrupted 180° view of interior from outside and a feast for criminal to select his requirements.
3. Dust and Rainwater settle on horizontal surfaces and cause deterioration whereas, comparatively, it runs off on vertical members.
Whenever I advise on design, I consider these facts in offering my views.
Would love to read CC (constructive criticism) on my opinion.

[lordrayden]

Originally Posted by Amrik Singh

Would love to read CC (constructive criticism) on my opinion.

One factor for horizontal bars being preferred in most gates could be down to human psychology rather than engineering or practically; Vertical bars subconsciously remind people of jail cell doors.

[RogerEphraim]

No offense, but I see that you have a garden outside and now your gate is protruding out on to the road. This is wrong. The space outside is to be the footpath. You are forcing people to walk on the road. You should have left enough place in your land for your car, or you should buy a car that fits the parking spot, or you should resort to roadside parking. I see this in so many houses and it is just wrong.

[Amrik Singh]

Originally Posted by RogerEphraim

No offense, but I see that you have a garden outside and now your gate is protruding out on to the road. This is wrong. The space outside is to be the footpath.

I think usurping the rights of pedestrians has been done long ago. The steps leading to the entrance to the house have already encroached upon the path along the street. He has only secured a part of it.
Houses have already been constructed slightly higher than the Roads / Streets. But every laying of Tar, would raise the level of tarmac. So it used to be a battle between the two, to be higher than the other. This also led to longer Ramps to enter the house.
Though we suffer the same paranoia in our locality also, but now it is a standard practice of removing the previously laid layer before laying new layer and it is mostly Concrete rather than bitumen Tar.

[desiaztec]

OT, please don't plan to buy a Fortuner or an Endeavour, you'd end up encroaching the common road too. It's become a menace in our country where an owner of an independent house also resorts to encroaching on public land by means of a garden, guard room or a gate extension and we blame unorganized JJ societies for spoiling the aesthetics of a city.

[johy]

I am sorry, but I think one is not supposed to encroach on that space. As far as I know, one can only build/construct limited to your boundary wall. In fact, you are supposed to leave 16 feet in the front , from the boundary wall to the building - in my society. Other societies/corporation areas might have different rules, but there will be a minimum space which is supposed to be "open to air" (the correct legal term). Even the so-called "garden" that people often put outside their building is actually on common/public property.

This is wrong!

[JayPrashanth]

Originally Posted by johy

I am sorry, but I think one is not supposed to encroach on that space. As far as I know, one can only build/construct limited to your boundary wall. In fact, you are supposed to leave 16 feet in the front , from the boundary wall to the building - in my society. Other societies/corporation areas might have different rules, but there will be a minimum space which is supposed to be "open to air" (the correct legal term). Even the so-called "garden" that people often put outside their building is actually on common/public property.

This is wrong!

Yes, this is plain wrong. The OP has just encroached on land that's basically meant to be an entry ramp/sewage/flood water drain cover. If everyone begins doing this, there will be no end to encroachments. Civic authorities should demolish this illegal structure.

[One]

If we are passing judgement on the OP, let's ensure we know the entire details; in this case it entails going through the entire thread where the OP painstakingly mentions the status of his plot boundaries, road boundaries etc. Then if one still has the same opinion, it can be warranted by some reasoning and not a quick judgement.

In fact, if not too much of a trouble, maybe do that as a practice across all areas.

[Turbanator]

On independent plots, it’s very common to have a driveway, and the leftover place has either a small garden or cemented tiles for parking.

Ideally, there should have been a sidewalk as in most developed countries, but due to lack of space, there are no such provisions in most cities in India.