12-yr-old rams car into boy, woman in Delhi

speedy · 6th September 2007, 03:23

guys just saw it in the news the boy and his driver has been let off on bail and the child could face a two year sentence. it all depends on what offence is filed by the police.
as per eye witness reports the child was driving and the driver was sitting next to him. according to me the driver should also be punished as he could have avoided the situation. in what i can see is that it does not look like it is the parents fault entirely as the child could have bossed his way to the drivers seat. an emplyee is an employee after all he cant refuse his employer.

rocksterraghu · 6th September 2007, 04:01

Blaming it on someone is one thing. Understanding the intricacies is another.

Many things - like manners, decency, respect or proper behavior do not come with education/schooling/teaching. They basically come from the parents/family they are brought up in. Unnecessary pampering, ignorant parents sometimes do not understand what they've made out of their children.

No, I do not mean to say that the parents should be sued. I also don't want to generalize something out of this.

My sincere suggestion to one and all: Please make sure we take the responsibilty of bringing up our kids with responsibility, not JUST care and affection. We should never be in a situation where people point fingers at us and say the above. There is something to learn from this incident - that if we don't teach our kids what is very critical for the society, we would end up facing things we would never imagine. Let us be practical, responsible parents while loving and caring.

P.S: Sorry if I sounded like an advisor, I am just requesting, thank you.

Thad E Ginathom · 6th September 2007, 08:23

Is a child of twelve able to be prosecuted for crime in India? I think you have to be 13 in UK, although this fact is exploited by quite a number of wild kids who commit crime and just stick their fingers up to the police because they can't be touched.

To imprison a 12-yr old child seems inhuman to me. Two wrongs don't make a right.

The wrong kind of adoration can ruin a child's life.

apachelongbow · 6th September 2007, 15:56

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Originally Posted by vkochar

Huh

12 yr old driving Qualis, Kya parents hain !! Kammal Hai !!

I think instead of punishing the kid in juvenile court, they should call his parents as well for being such responsible citizens.

I can predict what will happen now. The police and the parents together will scheme and pin the blame on the driver sitting beside the 12 yr old. He will be held responsible for the whole fiasco and arrested and sentenced. Meanwhile the 12 year killer will go scot free to maybe mow more people down. Sad but true, our beautiful judicial and law enforcement system.

sumitkalindi · 6th September 2007, 17:42

After reading through the whole thred, IMHO parents should be held responsible. When the child is a minor, the ultimate responsibility lies with the parents.

Thad E Ginathom · 8th September 2007, 01:27

An adult in charge of a child should be responsible.

speedy · 8th September 2007, 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

An adult in charge of a child should be responsible.

, but in this case who is to be blamed, the driver who was with the child or the parents of the child.
i hope justice is given to the family that lost their 3yr old child. also an example be set to other irresponsible parents.

Thad E Ginathom · 8th September 2007, 21:50

That is the most difficult question.

Ultimately, I guess the parents have the moral responsibility.

I don't know, but I suspect that the driver, as the adult present and in charge of both child and car, probably has the legal responsibilty.

Even though handing over the keys to a child is like handing over a loaded gun, it must be difficult for a family driver to say 'no' to a member of the family.

This, though, is the point, I think, where further speculation is useless without knowing the people involved.

There can be no real justice for the bereaved. Nothing can compensate them.

esteem_lover · 8th September 2007, 22:19

Tough situation to comment on, but the responsibility of teaching the young one the seriousness of driving rests squarely on the parents. I am sure his dad would have let him drive it on another occasion too which is why the kid wanted to try it again.

6th September 2007, 03:23	#31
speedy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Meri Jaan Posts: 6,197 Thanked: 1,023 Times View My Garage	guys just saw it in the news the boy and his driver has been let off on bail and the child could face a two year sentence. it all depends on what offence is filed by the police. as per eye witness reports the child was driving and the driver was sitting next to him. according to me the driver should also be punished as he could have avoided the situation. in what i can see is that it does not look like it is the parents fault entirely as the child could have bossed his way to the drivers seat. an emplyee is an employee after all he cant refuse his employer.
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6th September 2007, 04:01	#32
rocksterraghu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 236 Times View My Garage	Blaming it on someone is one thing. Understanding the intricacies is another. Many things - like manners, decency, respect or proper behavior do not come with education/schooling/teaching. They basically come from the parents/family they are brought up in. Unnecessary pampering, ignorant parents sometimes do not understand what they've made out of their children. No, I do not mean to say that the parents should be sued. I also don't want to generalize something out of this. My sincere suggestion to one and all: Please make sure we take the responsibilty of bringing up our kids with responsibility, not JUST care and affection. We should never be in a situation where people point fingers at us and say the above. There is something to learn from this incident - that if we don't teach our kids what is very critical for the society, we would end up facing things we would never imagine. Let us be practical, responsible parents while loving and caring. P.S: Sorry if I sounded like an advisor, I am just requesting, thank you.
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6th September 2007, 08:23	#33
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,005 Thanked: 26,445 Times	Is a child of twelve able to be prosecuted for crime in India? I think you have to be 13 in UK, although this fact is exploited by quite a number of wild kids who commit crime and just stick their fingers up to the police because they can't be touched. To imprison a 12-yr old child seems inhuman to me. Two wrongs don't make a right. The wrong kind of adoration can ruin a child's life.
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6th September 2007, 17:42	#35
sumitkalindi BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kolkata Posts: 376 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	After reading through the whole thred, IMHO parents should be held responsible. When the child is a minor, the ultimate responsibility lies with the parents.
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8th September 2007, 01:27	#36
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,005 Thanked: 26,445 Times	An adult in charge of a child should be responsible.
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8th September 2007, 21:50	#38
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,005 Thanked: 26,445 Times	That is the most difficult question. Ultimately, I guess the parents have the moral responsibility. I don't know, but I suspect that the driver, as the adult present and in charge of both child and car, probably has the legal responsibilty. Even though handing over the keys to a child is like handing over a loaded gun, it must be difficult for a family driver to say 'no' to a member of the family. This, though, is the point, I think, where further speculation is useless without knowing the people involved. There can be no real justice for the bereaved. Nothing can compensate them.
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8th September 2007, 22:19	#39
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	Tough situation to comment on, but the responsibility of teaching the young one the seriousness of driving rests squarely on the parents. I am sure his dad would have let him drive it on another occasion too which is why the kid wanted to try it again.
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