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Old 30th May 2008, 13:28   #16
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Arre baba, we are in India. It's different.
. For some its a public road and for others its a race track. Lane discipline and awareness is seriously lacking. Its the "Chalta Hai" attitude that sucks.
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Isn't red the racing line ?
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No enforcement

Like every traffic rule in India, where there is no enforcement there is no compliance. If you turn like this in the West and one of the many traffic police see you do this, you are going to get fined and ticketted. Your violation will reside on computer and if you get too many violations in a certain period of time you will loose your license. And, if you get caught without a license a couple times you will be heavily fined and you will go to jail. If you get caught without a license they make you stop and lock your car by the side of the road and you may
be taken to a precinct station where you can call for a ride or, if they do not like you, you are walking from that point.

Education and enforcement. Two things that are not going to happen in India any time soon, I am sorry to say.
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Threads like this one do a lot of social service.
People 'vent' their ire here and are then less prone to road rage in real life!

Good job!
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@gregory - I was joking yaar.
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Threads like this one do a lot of social service.
People 'vent' their ire here and are then less prone to road rage in real life!

Good job!
Good point. Also, fiven the number of BHPians there are bound to be some who drive this way and may read this thread and change their evil ways.
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@gregory - I was joking yaar.
U joked without putting an appropriate smiley!! Thats similar to turning without using indicators.. Ghor paaap!
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Everyone goes through an irritating behaviour of the 'friendly' drivers on road almost every time we are behind the wheel. Being a 100% rule abiding driver is a mortal SIN atleast in Bangalore, from my experience. Using turn indicators is never seen or noticed by bikers. Using dippers is never respected by the oncoming drivers.

Fed up with all these decent ways of behaviour, I almost stopped my car, put the right indicator, lowered the glass and put my right hand fully outside so even a helicopter wallah can see my intention of turning right !!! But alas !!!!! 4 bikers sqeezed through my right side rubbing my hand and speeding to avoid any verbal "appreciation" from me. Thats hamara india !

Even the highways are filled with cows, eunuchs, road workers, dogs, cats, broken down trucks and drivers with few stones and tree branches as hazard sign, speeding bikers with no road sense, expired trucks with heavy black thick smoke etc. the list goes forever. God save our roads !! Considering lot of other abnormal behaviours on road, turning a junction is the least dangerous specialisation indians have learned so far.
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then they should not be in the outer lane when turning, in the first place.
YES. While turning, there is ONLY ONE LANE....and that's the INNER LANE. If there is more than a lane turning, in the same direction (...except where a U-turn is also involved) what's the meaning of lane keeping?

Unfortunately, some idiots don't know this. To make matters worse, roads are unnecessarily wide at these turns inviting the morons to display their brain-power.

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This type of behaviour (cutting lanes while turning) is rampant and what's most irritating is that good educated people drive in such a manner. I sometimes wonder, how a license is issues to such people. Inspite of telling them how wrong they are ( in case vehicles touch each other or bump into each other) the wrong party just refuses to accept the fault. From my own experience, I was proceeding to turn right ( indicator given ) in next 10 meters distance. One collegian on M80, forces herself between my car and divider (distance between me and divider hardly 3 feet) and then crashes into my car (side-by-side) as I am about to turn right. This happened very fast. I stopped my car and I politely told her not to do such a thing again and can be dangerous. Instead of accepting the blame, she starts shouting at top of her voice. Public, gathers and starts taking side of this girl. Thankfully, a couple of other who had seen exactly what happened, took my side and the issue was closed. Had those guys not intervened on time, I am sure, I would have got the bashing from the public for no fault of mine.
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Like every traffic rule in India, where there is no enforcement there is no compliance. If you turn like this in the West and one of the many traffic police see you do this, you are going to get fined and ticketted. Your violation will reside on computer and if you get too many violations in a certain period of time you will loose your license. And, if you get caught without a license a couple times you will be heavily fined and you will go to jail. If you get caught without a license they make you stop and lock your car by the side of the road and you may
be taken to a precinct station where you can call for a ride or, if they do not like you, you are walking from that point.

Education and enforcement. Two things that are not going to happen in India any time soon, I am sorry to say.
Dan or should I call you DirtyDan? you remind me of Dirty Harry cheers:

Very well said, but here if anyone gets caught by the cop for jumping a red light or speeding whats the first thing hes probabally going to do? Pay the Big offical fine or opt for smaller one which ends up directly into the pockets? I hope you get what Im saying!

Yup thats very true, also to add to this, here in India all most all dont stop at red lights during the non peak hours
Today morning on my way to work at around 7.30am at one of the singals it was a red so I stop and this cab, auto and even a baleno car comes behind me start greating me with their swearing and honking ! all because I stopped at a red ligt.

A few seconds later the guy from the cab got out and started walking towards me, now I got really scared! I was in no mood to start a fight early in the morning but luckly before he could reach me the singal turned green and I start moving..
Only to find the other vechiles from all directions dont follow any signal rules even though it was a red for them and a green for me.


Now I could have gone through as there wasn't much traffic coming from the intersections but it was a red and I always follow singals no matter what time of the day or night it is.

People even swear, curse and sometimes show me their friendly hand gestures when I start slowing down at an orange and stop at a red. Peoeple feel that its very ok to keep going until the enforcer shows up and blows his whistle.

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Next time on the roads of Bangalore if you see someone slowing down at an Orange or stoping at a Red its me! Go easy on me will you?

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This thread was created to give people an Idea about how irritating it is when they cut lanes and when they dont turn properly.
Yup and as Dan said maybe some will also learn from this.
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Old 30th May 2008, 15:34   #27
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Thats what every cab in Gurgaon do, pathetic, I feel like killing them. Also this is what they do all the time.
Personally I don't like this cab/auto bashing when I actually see almost every driver, even costly cars, do it all the time. May be these cab drivers do it for a reason, i.e. to cut short. But regular drivers do it out of ignorance. Both are equally bad.
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Following such decorum on our roads can be actually hazardous sometimes!
Here's a scenario I face EACH TIME while returning home: I turn on the flasher for an upcoming right turn and invariably there is some moron following who is in a tearing hurry and intends to overtake.
If I do my turn the 'right way' I'll obviously be STARTING my turn a 'correct' distance into the turn, and what happens here is VERY interesting: The moron following has ALREADY concluded I am not turning and has started his overtaking manoeuvre!
If you are not keeping a strict vigil (in your RVM) on such fools, there is bound to be a bad brush!
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Don't forget to thank the morons!

Guys, we all have our "moments" like these and, may be, were ourselves on Devil's beat! In Delhi, which rightfully deserves its reputation, such bad brushes, shoves and smacks are pretty common place. And, there is no hope--because the educated are spoilt (noveau riche) and the uneducated uncouth.

With Hobson's choice to make, I suggest that please do not forget to thank the next moron you encounter simply because he could have actually been much worse! This is not Gandhigiri, rather plain thanks giving!!

Cheers!
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Following such decorum on our roads can be actually hazardous sometimes!
Here's a scenario I face EACH TIME while returning home: I turn on the flasher for an upcoming right turn and invariably there is some moron following who is in a tearing hurry and intends to overtake.
If I do my turn the 'right way' I'll obviously be STARTING my turn a 'correct' distance into the turn, and what happens here is VERY interesting: The moron following has ALREADY concluded I am not turning and has started his overtaking manoeuvre!
If you are not keeping a strict vigil (in your RVM) on such fools, there is bound to be a bad brush!
haha! Same thing happens to me as well. Mostly with careless bikers and dead beat auto guys.

Speaking of which I got rear ended by an auto today evening. Heavy rains and bumber to bumber traffic all around Vidhan sauda, this guy manages to rear end me at 10km an hour I didn't suffer any damage but I think his head light broke.
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