A very unique tragic accident !!

Akadian · 20th September 2009, 22:47

What to do in such cases? I think the safest course of action would be to avoid sleeping in the car under all circumstances. If you want to take a nap on the road side during a long drive, it would be better to keep the windows open just a little

floyd · 23rd September 2009, 18:37

I wonder if this is a specific problem to Hyundai Santro. I remember some years back there was another similar story, with the pic of the Santro also. It was in Hindu if I remember. The story was published in TOI also, but no follow up.

ampere · 23rd September 2009, 18:45

I don't understand one thing. How come, when the central locking fails, one cannot come out? Surely there should be a manual override to open the door.

Am I missing something?

psp62in · 24th September 2009, 01:51

This is a simple problem of CO (Carbon monoxide) poisoning - caused by RUNNING ENGINE in an ENCLOSED SPACE. Nothing to do with the specific car, or central locking etc.

Carbon monoxide (CO) poisoning can happen within a matter of minutes. It is odorless, colorless poison can hurt you slowly in low levels, kill in higher levels of just 400 ppm. Note that it kills more people every year than any other poison.

CO emissions are produced whenever fuel (CNG/LPG/oil -petrol or diesel / kerosene /wood / coal etc) is burned. Normally the amount of CO produced is small, it can become hazardous if the place is not ventilated or the burning appliance is not functioning adequately.

There are many instances of such cases due to running engine in a closed garage. NEVER START/RUN CAR ENGINE IN AN ENCLOSED SPACE/garage.

Slightly OT: I have also seen many homes with Gas operated water heaters (CNG/LPG Gas gysers) installed in their bathrooms. This is also an extremely hazardous practice, and several cases have been reported of CO poisoning due such installations. Gas Gysers must be installed only in well ventilated areas, and never in bathrooms.

n.devdath · 24th September 2009, 16:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by ampere

I don't understand one thing. How come, when the central locking fails, one cannot come out? Surely there should be a manual override to open the door.

Am I missing something?

Like it has been said earlier, the lack of oxygen first made them drowsy, and they slept, not realizing that it was caused by the CO2. Hence they did not think of opening the door and getting out.

Parm · 24th September 2009, 16:59

Boy dies in car with AC on

KANPUR: A teenager sleeping in his car with its AC on inside a garage today died of suffocation here, barely days after a couple died in a similar way in the national capital, police said.

Vinay Gupta (18), a resident of Khalasi lines, was found dead inside his car that was parked in the garage, Superintendent of Police D K Chowdhury said.

He said according to Gupta's family, he returned late last night from a Ramlila show and in the absence of electricity, he went to sleep in his car.
The incident came to light this morning when the family members noticed smoke coming out of the vehicle and found Vinay lying unconscious inside, police said.

Preliminary investigation revealed the death was due to suffocation, police said, adding the body has been sent for postmortem.

Last week, Dinesh Gupta and his girl friend were trapped inside a car with its AC on after the vehicle ran out of petrol in New Delhi. While Dinesh died, the girl was admitted to a hospital in an unconscious state.

Boy dies in car with AC on - Kanpur - City - NEWS - The Times of India

20th September 2009, 22:47	#16
Akadian BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Karnal Posts: 264 Thanked: 5 Times	What to do in such cases? I think the safest course of action would be to avoid sleeping in the car under all circumstances. If you want to take a nap on the road side during a long drive, it would be better to keep the windows open just a little
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23rd September 2009, 18:37	#17
floyd BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 182 Thanked: 90 Times	I wonder if this is a specific problem to Hyundai Santro. I remember some years back there was another similar story, with the pic of the Santro also. It was in Hindu if I remember. The story was published in TOI also, but no follow up.
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23rd September 2009, 18:45	#18
ampere Team-BHP Support Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 18,140 Thanked: 13,284 Times View My Garage	I don't understand one thing. How come, when the central locking fails, one cannot come out? Surely there should be a manual override to open the door. Am I missing something?
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24th September 2009, 01:51	#19
psp62in BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 185 Thanked: 23 Times	This is a simple problem of CO (Carbon monoxide) poisoning - caused by RUNNING ENGINE in an ENCLOSED SPACE. Nothing to do with the specific car, or central locking etc. Carbon monoxide (CO) poisoning can happen within a matter of minutes. It is odorless, colorless poison can hurt you slowly in low levels, kill in higher levels of just 400 ppm. Note that it kills more people every year than any other poison. CO emissions are produced whenever fuel (CNG/LPG/oil -petrol or diesel / kerosene /wood / coal etc) is burned. Normally the amount of CO produced is small, it can become hazardous if the place is not ventilated or the burning appliance is not functioning adequately. There are many instances of such cases due to running engine in a closed garage. NEVER START/RUN CAR ENGINE IN AN ENCLOSED SPACE/garage. Slightly OT: I have also seen many homes with Gas operated water heaters (CNG/LPG Gas gysers) installed in their bathrooms. This is also an extremely hazardous practice, and several cases have been reported of CO poisoning due such installations. Gas Gysers must be installed only in well ventilated areas, and never in bathrooms.
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24th September 2009, 16:59	#21
Parm Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: in a Toyota! Posts: 2,753 Thanked: 898 Times	Boy dies in car with AC on Boy dies in car with AC on KANPUR: A teenager sleeping in his car with its AC on inside a garage today died of suffocation here, barely days after a couple died in a similar way in the national capital, police said. Vinay Gupta (18), a resident of Khalasi lines, was found dead inside his car that was parked in the garage, Superintendent of Police D K Chowdhury said. He said according to Gupta's family, he returned late last night from a Ramlila show and in the absence of electricity, he went to sleep in his car. The incident came to light this morning when the family members noticed smoke coming out of the vehicle and found Vinay lying unconscious inside, police said. Preliminary investigation revealed the death was due to suffocation, police said, adding the body has been sent for postmortem. Last week, Dinesh Gupta and his girl friend were trapped inside a car with its AC on after the vehicle ran out of petrol in New Delhi. While Dinesh died, the girl was admitted to a hospital in an unconscious state. Boy dies in car with AC on - Kanpur - City - NEWS - The Times of India
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