Cops challaned me(MVA 158)

pramodkumar · 16th July 2010, 09:28

my little sister arrived from delhi and we went to various tourist places near Trivandrum. There is a place called Thennmala which has a thick forest cover and is very scenic, there are two routes to get there the first one is about 120 KM and is through normal city roads which are in great shape, we took these roads to go there. while returning we found there was another route which was just 76 Km to Trivandrum. I barely did 5-6 Kms and i saw a police jeep standing there, there was a transport bus ahead of me and i just saw one of the cop step forward and signaling me to stop, i stopped. and the whole drama began there.

Cops: 100 Rs
Me: why
Cops:you were driving fast (they had no speed guns)
Me:

how fast
Cops: get your docs

After checking every doc

Cop: Who is in the car
Me:my younger sis

Cop: Her name, Her father's name etc...
Me: gave all the details
Cop: did you wear the seat belts
Me: yes, and my sister is still wearing
Cop: Turn on your head lights, honk etc(felt lot like ragging in college

)

Finally he says pay 100, i just had enough, so i paid. later when i checked the challan it said 100 Rs fine under sec 158 .This was the most hideous display of power by cops and this is one time when i wanted call some one big to teach them a lesson. But i took it with a pinch of salt, its not about the money, its about how these people feel they are superior to every one and literally turn into goons in uniform

I think there should be stringent law to take care of the harassment part.

Pramod

MutantX · 16th July 2010, 09:33

The bill looks duplicate! The original copy needs to be retained by the customer and duplicate by the cops! but why on earth does the cop give you the duplicate bill! OMG! Please do file a complaint.

Btw Sec 158 says you need to have insurance & RC (or pollution certificate), did you have all these docus with you? If yes, why did he challan you? was there any speed limits mentioned in the NH Road?

pramodkumar · 16th July 2010, 09:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by MutantX

The bill looks duplicate! The original copy needs to be retained by the customer and duplicate by the cops! but why on earth does the cop give you the duplicate bill! OMG! Please do file a complaint.

Btw Sec 158 says you need to have insurance & RC (or pollution certificate), did you have all these docus with you? If yes, why did he challan you? was there any speed limits mentioned in the NH Road?

All the docs were in order, this is not NH, these are ghat roads and i was at 40km/h

Pramod

benbsb29 · 16th July 2010, 09:51

Pramod, how about sending this to some news channel? They would have fun with this.

Also, the other questions comes about how you would prove you were in the right?

WDM007 · 16th July 2010, 09:59

Do you have the badge number of the cop?
Or the bike/car number?

In case you need to take the complaint further. . .

ASHISHPALLOD · 16th July 2010, 10:16

I think your car number attracted the cops.
Looking at the number, cops came to know that the car owner is maaldar person and can get some chai-paani.

pramodkumar · 16th July 2010, 10:24

I didnt want to create a scene and i am sorry but cannot standup and fight for this cause i have a lot of better things to do in life than to fight for this. I know some people high up and could have made his life miserable if he took it further than charging 100 Rs, and if i call someone to help me cause i dont wanna pay this amount people will think i am crazy. I was just shocked at the way he was fault finding to extract money.

yes wife also suggested i send it to the news guys

Pramod

WDM007 · 16th July 2010, 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASHISHPALLOD

I think your car number attracted the cops.
Looking at the number, cops came to know that the car owner is maaldar person and can get some chai-paani.

Seems true

On a second thought, I feel that the car is from AP, riding in Kerala. That may be other reason. He must have thought that since you are from other state, may not use local powers on him, so he can milk as much money as possible.

Or, may be he has some old rivalry from people from that state.

deky · 16th July 2010, 11:07

Since he gave you a receipt (provided that the receipt is original) Me thinks that this is just a case of meeting the target of challans made during the week/ month. Very stupid thing imposed by the senior cops, this puts the junior cops under pressure to cut challans and take money by hook or by crook.

rjstyles69 · 16th July 2010, 11:35

You could have always reasoned with them if your papers were in order. I mean they simply cant fine you for no reason. Since its an AP registered car I am assuming all papers were in place ?

The famous mallu saying " Idenna Vellarika pattanam aano "

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phamilyman · 16th July 2010, 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by pramodkumar

I didnt want to create a scene and i am sorry but cannot standup and fight for this cause i have a lot of better things to do in life than to fight for this. I know some people high up and could have made his life miserable if he took it further than charging 100 Rs, and if i call someone to help me cause i dont wanna pay this amount people will think i am crazy. I was just shocked at the way he was fault finding to extract money.

yes wife also suggested i send it to the news guys

Pramod

Next time, tell them that you are only harassing me. If you will not let me go, I will call 100 and report that you are harassing my sister.

Works like a charm everytime. From the haryana police, to chandigarh police it never fails.

ariesonu · 16th July 2010, 12:36

@Phamilyman: I second that one. I have tried that & it works even with Mumbai cops & they chicken out. Usually the cops will simply hand you over your docs & proceed to stop another car. Thats the signal that you are FREE to leave.
Condition apply: You must a female companion.

Jayabusa · 16th July 2010, 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by phamilyman

Next time, tell them that you are only harassing me. If you will not let me go, I will call 100 and report that you are harassing my sister.

Works like a charm everytime. From the haryana police, to chandigarh police it never fails.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariesonu

@Phamilyman: I second that one. I have tried that & it works even with Mumbai cops & they chicken out. Usually the cops will simply hand you over your docs & proceed to stop another car. Thats the signal that you are FREE to leave.
Condition apply: You must a female companion.

By doing this, don't you think you are stooping down to the cop's level, or even lower? He is charging you with a crime you never committed & you are falsely alleging(lying) that he is harassing the lady accompanying you.
Instead, why not take the correct action like mentioned by members in the above posts.

pramodkumar · 16th July 2010, 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by phamilyman

Next time, tell them that you are only harassing me. If you will not let me go, I will call 100 and report that you are harassing my sister.

Works like a charm everytime. From the haryana police, to chandigarh police it never fails.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariesonu

@Phamilyman: I second that one. I have tried that & it works even with Mumbai cops & they chicken out. Usually the cops will simply hand you over your docs & proceed to stop another car. Thats the signal that you are FREE to leave.
Condition apply: You must a female companion.

Guys trust me no one wants to get into a situation like that, especially in a remote Ghat section, there can be 1000s of things these guys might wanna put on your head, I remember once one of my friend and his girlfriend were picked up from a park along with other couples. even though they said they are in love and will be getting married the Cops got couple of local media channel and paraded them infront of the media saying they caught them doing immoral activities in a park, trust me i dont wanna know how dirty these blood suckers can get

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayabusa

By doing this, don't you think you are stooping down to the cop's level, or even lower? He is charging you with a crime you never committed & you are falsely alleging(lying) that he is harassing the lady accompanying you.
Instead, why not take the correct action like mentioned by members in the above posts.

Well that's the whole point, Couldn't agree more

Pramod

aargee · 16th July 2010, 17:37

@Pramod - Just forget it; I know its easy to say than experiencing. Who knows, f I were at your place, probably I would've lost my day fighting over 100 bucks. Anyway, these are unavoidable when you've a car running out of state registration.

Probably, if you would've challenged further, he could've asked you for CT clearances etc. Having your sister besides you, I think you did a right thing to move on.

16th July 2010, 09:28	#1
pramodkumar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Gods own country Posts: 2,302 Thanked: 2,208 Times View My Garage	Cops challaned me(MVA 158) my little sister arrived from delhi and we went to various tourist places near Trivandrum. There is a place called Thennmala which has a thick forest cover and is very scenic, there are two routes to get there the first one is about 120 KM and is through normal city roads which are in great shape, we took these roads to go there. while returning we found there was another route which was just 76 Km to Trivandrum. I barely did 5-6 Kms and i saw a police jeep standing there, there was a transport bus ahead of me and i just saw one of the cop step forward and signaling me to stop, i stopped. and the whole drama began there. Cops: 100 Rs Me: why Cops:you were driving fast (they had no speed guns) Me: how fast Cops: get your docs After checking every doc Cop: Who is in the car Me:my younger sis Cop: Her name, Her father's name etc... Me: gave all the details Cop: did you wear the seat belts Me: yes, and my sister is still wearing Cop: Turn on your head lights, honk etc(felt lot like ragging in college ) Finally he says pay 100, i just had enough, so i paid. later when i checked the challan it said 100 Rs fine under sec 158 .This was the most hideous display of power by cops and this is one time when i wanted call some one big to teach them a lesson. But i took it with a pinch of salt, its not about the money, its about how these people feel they are superior to every one and literally turn into goons in uniform I think there should be stringent law to take care of the harassment part. Pramod
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16th July 2010, 09:33	#2
MutantX BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Madras Posts: 868 Thanked: 93 Times View My Garage	The bill looks duplicate! The original copy needs to be retained by the customer and duplicate by the cops! but why on earth does the cop give you the duplicate bill! OMG! Please do file a complaint. Btw Sec 158 says you need to have insurance & RC (or pollution certificate), did you have all these docus with you? If yes, why did he challan you? was there any speed limits mentioned in the NH Road?
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16th July 2010, 09:51	#4
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,968 Thanked: 13,223 Times View My Garage	Pramod, how about sending this to some news channel? They would have fun with this. Also, the other questions comes about how you would prove you were in the right?
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16th July 2010, 09:59	#5
WDM007 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Beaverton, USA Posts: 236 Thanked: 15 Times View My Garage	Do you have the badge number of the cop? Or the bike/car number? In case you need to take the complaint further. . .
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16th July 2010, 10:16	#6
ASHISHPALLOD Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: MH42 Posts: 2,006 Thanked: 334 Times	I think your car number attracted the cops. Looking at the number, cops came to know that the car owner is maaldar person and can get some chai-paani.
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16th July 2010, 10:24	#7
pramodkumar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Gods own country Posts: 2,302 Thanked: 2,208 Times View My Garage	I didnt want to create a scene and i am sorry but cannot standup and fight for this cause i have a lot of better things to do in life than to fight for this. I know some people high up and could have made his life miserable if he took it further than charging 100 Rs, and if i call someone to help me cause i dont wanna pay this amount people will think i am crazy. I was just shocked at the way he was fault finding to extract money. yes wife also suggested i send it to the news guys Pramod Last edited by pramodkumar : 16th July 2010 at 10:25.
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16th July 2010, 11:07	#9
deky Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Jaipur Posts: 1,194 Thanked: 1,247 Times	Since he gave you a receipt (provided that the receipt is original) Me thinks that this is just a case of meeting the target of challans made during the week/ month. Very stupid thing imposed by the senior cops, this puts the junior cops under pressure to cut challans and take money by hook or by crook.
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16th July 2010, 11:35	#10
rjstyles69 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bengalooru.. Posts: 4,343 Thanked: 842 Times View My Garage	You could have always reasoned with them if your papers were in order. I mean they simply cant fine you for no reason. Since its an AP registered car I am assuming all papers were in place ? The famous mallu saying " Idenna Vellarika pattanam aano " ?
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16th July 2010, 12:36	#12
ariesonu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,343 Thanked: 2,417 Times View My Garage	@Phamilyman: I second that one. I have tried that & it works even with Mumbai cops & they chicken out. Usually the cops will simply hand you over your docs & proceed to stop another car. Thats the signal that you are FREE to leave. Condition apply: You must a female companion.
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16th July 2010, 17:37	#15
aargee Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: TSTN Posts: 6,236 Thanked: 9,641 Times	@Pramod - Just forget it; I know its easy to say than experiencing. Who knows, f I were at your place, probably I would've lost my day fighting over 100 bucks. Anyway, these are unavoidable when you've a car running out of state registration. Probably, if you would've challenged further, he could've asked you for CT clearances etc. Having your sister besides you, I think you did a right thing to move on.
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