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Old 4th February 2020, 18:30   #91
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Congrats buddy! Vstrom is a nice machine for touring, power is good and fantastic handling machine.
Happy Touring!

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I took delivery of my V Strom yesterday. Was gladly able to witness the unboxing and witness the assembly and PDI myself.

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Hello everyone,

I found the discussion in this thread interesting and can echo some of the queries and thought process.

If one was looking to largely stay on-road, and looking to comfortably munch miles, is the Versys 1000 such a bad choice? Given its price point, low/ lack of fancy electronics, easy maintainability (all quoted in posts above) and riding comfort, is there not a case for this machine as a tourer.

Also, I have not come across a long-term ownership experience / review of the Versys 1000 on the forum, perhaps someone can point me to one if I missed it.

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Hello everyone,

I found the discussion in this thread interesting and can echo some of the queries and thought process.

If one was looking to largely stay on-road, and looking to comfortably munch miles, is the Versys 1000 such a bad choice? Given its price point, low/ lack of fancy electronics, easy maintainability (all quoted in posts above) and riding comfort, is there not a case for this machine as a tourer.

Also, I have not come across a long-term ownership experience / review of the Versys 1000 on the forum, perhaps someone can point me to one if I missed it.

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Its the best choice in the market at the moment for what you want to do. Just get it nothing else even comes close at that price point.
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If one was looking to largely stay on-road, and looking to comfortably munch miles, is the Versys 1000 such a bad choice? Given its price point, low/ lack of fancy electronics, easy maintainability (all quoted in posts above) and riding comfort, is there not a case for this machine as a tourer.

Also, I have not come across a long-term ownership experience / review of the Versys 1000 on the forum, perhaps someone can point me to one if I missed it.
I have heard of cases where the Versys 1000 has not adapted well to our Indian conditions due to the poor quality of fuel found on our highways and the high RON rating required by the bike. The Versys 650 doesnt seem to suffer from this issue. Do check up on this with Versys 1000 owners before making a final decision.
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I have heard of cases where the Versys 1000 has not adapted well to our Indian conditions due to the poor quality of fuel found on our highways and the high RON rating required by the bike.
A very important point indeed. I think it needs RON 95 and hence it's not suited for touring in India. I don't know if Kawasaki has detuned the engine to suit our kind of fuel (RON 91)
I don't think it's a good idea to overlook this aspect if you are serious about going places on such bikes.
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I have heard of cases where the Versys 1000 has not adapted well to our Indian conditions due to the poor quality of fuel found on our highways and the high RON rating required by the bike. The Versys 650 doesnt seem to suffer from this issue. Do check up on this with Versys 1000 owners before making a final decision.
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A very important point indeed. I think it needs RON 95 and hence it's not suited for touring in India. I don't know if Kawasaki has detuned the engine to suit our kind of fuel (RON 91)
I don't think it's a good idea to overlook this aspect if you are serious about going places on such bikes.
I have friends who have taken the Versys 1000 to leh, ladakh and back from Bangalore and the bike runs well to date.
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A very important point indeed. I think it needs RON 95 and hence it's not suited for touring in India. I don't know if Kawasaki has detuned the engine to suit our kind of fuel (RON 91)
I don't think it's a good idea to overlook this aspect if you are serious about going places on such bikes.
The dealer has indicated that the MY2021 bikes have their ECU setup differently to address the stalling experienced by owners in the last 18-24 months (purportedly due to lower octane fuel), and that IKM acknowledges this change. The new bikes do still have stickers recommending 95 octane fuel. However, I have not much more than the dealers' word to go on, at this time.

On another note, I have put money down and am expecting to take delivery in the next week or so. Fingers crossed! 😀
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The dealer has indicated that the MY2021 bikes have their ECU setup differently to address the stalling experienced by owners in the last 18-24 months (purportedly due to lower octane fuel), and that IKM acknowledges this change. The new bikes do still have stickers recommending 95 octane fuel. However, I have not much more than the dealers' word to go on, at this time.

On another note, I have put money down and am expecting to take delivery in the next week or so. Fingers crossed! 😀
Congratulations on your booking. Do share more details on your booking experience, pictures and pricing. I hope we will be treated to an ownership thread, there isnt too much info in the public domain from Indian owners on the Versys 1000 so it would be a great help to everyone interested in the bike.

Coming to the points you shared, this is the first time that I have heard of a Kawasaki India dealer acknowledging issues with the Versys 1000 related to fuel octane ratings. So that is a great step forward. I havent followed the Versys 1000 too closely, so I dont know what exact changes would have happened with the MY2021 bike. Im guessing it got updated to meet Euro 5 / BS6 norms and that could / should take care of the stalling issues. Time will tell.

With the Z900, the local dealer initially claimed that there was no issue with using regular fuel but when I pointed out known instances being shared on public forums, they agreed that the lower octane fuel did cause some issues which they were able to address.

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I have friends who have taken the Versys 1000 to leh, ladakh and back from Bangalore and the bike runs well to date.
Was this with additives? Or did they use that fuel filter cap thingy which I believe you had posted about on your Versys thread? Or was it just the old Hero Honda style - fill it, shut it, forget it with just the regular services?
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Was this with additives? Or did they use that fuel filter cap thingy which I believe you had posted about on your Versys thread? Or was it just the old Hero Honda style - fill it, shut it, forget it with just the regular services?
From what i know, fill it, shut it, forget it. 2017 model i think. That fuel filter will only warn you about adulteration, it cant do anything about octane ratings.
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The dealer has indicated that the MY2021 bikes have their ECU setup differently to address the stalling experienced by owners in the last 18-24 months (purportedly due to lower octane fuel), and that IKM acknowledges this change. The new bikes do still have stickers recommending 95 octane fuel. However, I have not much more than the dealers' word to go on, at this time.

On another note, I have put money down and am expecting to take delivery in the next week or so. Fingers crossed! 😀
Congratulations !.

Lately I was at Kawasaki showroom with similar requirements like yours. Test rode both MY020 Versys & MY 2021 Ninja 1000; while the Versys felt great ergonomically and it did attract me a lot, it was the Ninja 1000 that felt a suitable replacement for most type of roads & touring needs so I signed the cheque for it.

Did you consider the sports tourer Ninja MY21 which now has very useful features such as cruise control, up/down quick shifter (not in versys 1000), more touring friendly seats et al. Would like to know what shifted your decision towards Versys or was it the latter all the way?

Pls. do share some pics of Versys.
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Did you consider the sports tourer Ninja MY21 which now has very useful features such as cruise control, up/down quick shifter (not in versys 1000), more touring friendly seats et al. Would like to know what shifted your decision towards Versys or was it the latter all the way?

Pls. do share some pics of Versys.
Congratulations to you too.

My consideration was purely with regards to riding posture and the amount of time I intend to spend on the saddle in a given day. On my Enfields I have spent between 12 & 15 hours riding in a single day. The experience has taught me that posture and saddle comfort are as important as balance & ability to keep pace over long distance rides.

While I did not test drive the Ninja, the lean in was enough of a deterrent, given the use case I have for a tourer. Low fairing clearance, and doubtful pillion comfort were other concerns. Yes the tech on the Ninja is more advanced and tempting, but since it did not tick some boxes on my list, gave it a pass.

On the other hand, the Versys seems closer to THE bike (if there is such a thing), but only time will tell.

Regarding the quick shifter, Kawa offers it as an add on, on the Versys. However, being new to this class of bikes and looking at how powerful the engines are with low end torque, combined with decent shifts (during my test rides); I felt/feel that it will take quite a while before I miss this add-on. But who knows, maybe I'll get there quicker 😉

Here's a teaser pic, from the day the bike was unloaded at the dealer. With guidance from the mods, I hope to write a full purchase and ownership experience piece about this beautiful machine!
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"The sport bike for the real world" is here.

My 2013 Ninja 300 resurrected into inline-4 super machine and is coming home this week.

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