Unregistered CB1000R in the Garage!

Berj79 · 13th November 2009, 04:21

The RTO has become very strict & slow in registering superbikes now after the DRI Raid, the DRI has busted the rto guys bigtime, the superbike smuggling racket issue is still very sensitive, so thats the reason the rto are acting like this, they dont even trust the bike manufacturers anymore, cause if they register even one superbike which aint fully legal they will be in trouble with the dri again, so to the orignal poster relax for a while they will do the registration for your bike but will take some time,
CONGRATS on your machine, its a beautiful bike

west · 13th November 2009, 06:36

I dont know why you are worried so much, if you are getting from dealer.

Act like a citizen , Go to the police ask them to solve the puzzle(file a cheating case), complain to the rto(you got all documents right), & also to concerned ministry they will take care of it.If not registered you will atleast get a refund.

pramodkumar · 13th November 2009, 08:52

File a RTI (Right to information) case at the RTO, then see things move fast. It just takes 10 RS, and the RTO agent are liable to answer with it 30 days also they have to mention the reason for the delay so far. Not only that if it proves that your bike had customs clearence along with the other 4 bikes then the officer incharge will getinto trouble. They see expensive car/bike owners as cash cows. Please go the leagal way and also remember to file a case in the consumer court against the dealer, its high time these guys have started taking people on a ride.

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Originally Posted by Berj79

The RTO has become very strict & slow in registering superbikes now after the DRI Raid, the DRI has busted the rto guys bigtime, the superbike smuggling racket issue is still very sensitive, so thats the reason the rto are acting like this, they dont even trust the bike manufacturers anymore, cause if they register even one superbike which aint fully legal they will be in trouble with the dri again, so to the orignal poster relax for a while they will do the registration for your bike but will take some time,
CONGRATS on your machine, its a beautiful bike

Dosent make sense dude, Why should the consumer suffer, he has brought the bike the legal way. Its not if they cannot catch the real culprits they will hang everyone just to be sure. It is rediculus to wait, to eliminate issues (mainly speed in processing issues) we have RTI, use it. How much more a brand new legal bike will sit in the garage? My cousin brought a brand new TVS pep +, the showroom where she picked her scooty up locked out and the bike was not registered from march till now. Then when we went to the RTO they were asking us to pay a fine for not registring. Then we found our uncle who is working in the RTO and he helped us with the formalities. The point is the same RTO will then charge fine, and trust me for a bike this expensive the fine is going to be huge. So save your self and File an RTI.

Pramod

BikerSG · 13th November 2009, 10:33

send registered letters to honda india & the dealer asking for a reply on this matter.

and send letter to RTO under RTI act.

Spitfire · 13th November 2009, 11:27

You can hang Honda for this. Only know how to. This is a fraud if they have sold you a bike which does not have Customs Clearence or if they are giving an excuse that this is the case.

Spend 10 lakhs and still be worried. You need to take this up seriously man.

Best of Luck.

autospirit · 13th November 2009, 13:47

This should just have been a simple case of registering and there should have been no delays whatsoever, but as you said that the other 3 bikes from the same lot of imports got registered then why not yours?
the dealership is liable in that case first and foremost, just tell them that you are going to go to the concerned authorities and inform about the post here on Team bhp. once they read this they will come to their senses..
also why pay 5K unnecessarily ? imo there was no need for it, but now follow up hard on that.
Best of Luck.

sachinwadhwani · 1st December 2009, 14:01

hi, any luck with the registration? ive been getting calls from the honda office in delhi and they have been trying to convince me to buy a cb1000, but when i mentioned your case they were super embarassed and the sales guy actually started to stammer lol.

my969 · 3rd December 2009, 00:18

Hi Guys,

Well nothing has happened until now.
a week ago ankush said he had gotten the papers we require and was going to courier it to us from Delhi and then nothing. Looks like the dude is too busy to pick up our calls or even call us back!
Om Sai the dealers have washed their hands of us saying its out of our hands.
And frankly we've been too busy with work and family to seriously go after the RTO etc. And I'm not worried in a way because the RTO have taken my money for Life time tax and for registration dated 25th Sept 2009 so they will have to do it eventually.

Now if I want to get in touch with Autocar and let them know my plight whats the procedure? Anyone have a number.

You know I was all excited and pumped about the bike and went and bought my riding gear and helmet etc but now my heart has become thanda.
I know its nothing personal and Honda/ DRI and RTO are crapping on each other and we are caught in the crossfire.

Thanks for all your thoughts and concern and I will keep you guys posted.

my969 · 22nd December 2009, 01:59

Hi Guys,

Well after more than three and half months of waiting we finally got the registration of our bike

what can I say, there is no excitement, just lethargy and indifference.
Hey they could've waited 10 more days and given me a 2010 registration!
I think I need some "Riding Therapy" to chase away this negativity.
A nice long ride ALWAYS puts a big smile on my face.
Thanks to all of you for sharing and for your concern.

Bumble Beast · 22nd December 2009, 05:13

Went Through the whole thread, its quite an ironic situation as u describe it.
Anyways, Now that You have your Registration, Can we please have the pics?

sinner · 22nd December 2009, 11:38

Congrats Brother... But Spill the beans.. what was the final tactics that paid off. and how did they get the whole situation in control.
And ya not to forget "Awaiting Pics"

manson · 23rd December 2009, 16:10

I'm glad that its finally paid off for you. But the lousy attitude of the sales staff across all superbike dealerships definitely needs a change. Their lethargic ways, lack of knowledge, negligible support even through paperwork is not going to help the companies' efforts of bring down such high end motorcycles.

Heck, Akhil (Rossiter) at the Ducati dealership was told that the sales team was looking at branding for right now, and the sales were second priority. For obvious reasons, this did not make sense to me, why would a company want to go serious about branding when they are not looking at sales? And seriously, which company in whatever industry would not like early bird sales to write off immediate adverstising and other fixed costs?

Till date, I havent got a follow up call on my intended cb1000 purchase from Jhaveri Honda in Mumbai. Their apparetly specialised sals head was going to call me in a couple of hours a few months ago.

Most amongst the sales staff in the automotive industry have hardly any knowledge of their product, and their negligence to facts and learning is bound to turn back a prospective customer.

manson.

straight6 · 24th December 2009, 13:36

I just got back from Pune where I heard about someone who has a CB1000R and hasn't been able to register it for 5 months or so

. You are better off!

I also heard that Honda just sells the bike and don't bother about registration and all that where as Suzuki makes sure that they register the bike for its customer.

dipen · 24th December 2009, 14:00

@straight6
Since you have a lot of contacts/ friends who own these superbikes, can you get a list of documents that an official bike comes with like custom duty invoice, sales tax, other penalties, registration, insurance, etc (everything).
If one can get these details, it can work out relatively cheaper if we ask a private importer to do the job and demand all these official copies without having any DRI fear.
I positively believe, one can save close to a lakh this way.

@my969
Can you also list of the documents that you have in hand post the registration of your bike. These would really help any wanna be owner of a superbike. This will also help people who are interested in user superbikes as to what documents they need to verify.

straight6 · 24th December 2009, 14:17

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Originally Posted by dipen

@straight6
Since you have a lot of contacts/ friends who own these superbikes, can you get a list of documents that an official bike comes with like custom duty invoice, sales tax, other penalties, registration, insurance, etc (everything).
If one can get these details, it can work out relatively cheaper if we ask a private importer to do the job and demand all these official copies without having any DRI fear.
I positively believe, one can save close to a lakh this way.

The companies don't give all those documents with the bike. You just get the invoice, insurance and I think road tax and other required documents.

Why would they give out the margin they earn? You definitely don't get duty papers. Some official Busa's got picked up by the DRI (because they didn't know the difference between the official and grey bikes) but Suzuki got those released for the owners.

Importing a bike yourself makes sense if you are looking for a bike that isn't sold officially in the country. Its quite a headache. The cost is around the same because you will have to pay a clearing agent to get your bike out when it lands here.

13th November 2009, 04:21	#16
Berj79 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 375 Thanked: 10 Times	The RTO has become very strict & slow in registering superbikes now after the DRI Raid, the DRI has busted the rto guys bigtime, the superbike smuggling racket issue is still very sensitive, so thats the reason the rto are acting like this, they dont even trust the bike manufacturers anymore, cause if they register even one superbike which aint fully legal they will be in trouble with the dri again, so to the orignal poster relax for a while they will do the registration for your bike but will take some time, CONGRATS on your machine, its a beautiful bike
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13th November 2009, 06:36	#17
west BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: India Posts: 273 Thanked: 49 Times	I dont know why you are worried so much, if you are getting from dealer. Act like a citizen , Go to the police ask them to solve the puzzle(file a cheating case), complain to the rto(you got all documents right), & also to concerned ministry they will take care of it.If not registered you will atleast get a refund. Last edited by west : 13th November 2009 at 06:38.
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13th November 2009, 10:33	#19
BikerSG BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chennai, INDIA Posts: 378 Thanked: 15 Times	send registered letters to honda india & the dealer asking for a reply on this matter. and send letter to RTO under RTI act.
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13th November 2009, 11:27	#20
Spitfire BANNED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Panaji - Goa/Bangalore - Karnataka Posts: 3,312 Thanked: 774 Times	You can hang Honda for this. Only know how to. This is a fraud if they have sold you a bike which does not have Customs Clearence or if they are giving an excuse that this is the case. Spend 10 lakhs and still be worried. You need to take this up seriously man. Best of Luck.
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13th November 2009, 13:47	#21
autospirit BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: India, USA Posts: 46 Thanked: 4 Times	This should just have been a simple case of registering and there should have been no delays whatsoever, but as you said that the other 3 bikes from the same lot of imports got registered then why not yours? the dealership is liable in that case first and foremost, just tell them that you are going to go to the concerned authorities and inform about the post here on Team bhp. once they read this they will come to their senses.. also why pay 5K unnecessarily ? imo there was no need for it, but now follow up hard on that. Best of Luck.
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1st December 2009, 14:01	#22
sachinwadhwani BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 77 Thanked: 42 Times	hi, any luck with the registration? ive been getting calls from the honda office in delhi and they have been trying to convince me to buy a cb1000, but when i mentioned your case they were super embarassed and the sales guy actually started to stammer lol.
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3rd December 2009, 00:18	#23
my969 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 8 Thanked: 0 Times	Ankush Bhatia too busy to call back Hi Guys, Well nothing has happened until now. a week ago ankush said he had gotten the papers we require and was going to courier it to us from Delhi and then nothing. Looks like the dude is too busy to pick up our calls or even call us back! Om Sai the dealers have washed their hands of us saying its out of our hands. And frankly we've been too busy with work and family to seriously go after the RTO etc. And I'm not worried in a way because the RTO have taken my money for Life time tax and for registration dated 25th Sept 2009 so they will have to do it eventually. Now if I want to get in touch with Autocar and let them know my plight whats the procedure? Anyone have a number. You know I was all excited and pumped about the bike and went and bought my riding gear and helmet etc but now my heart has become thanda. I know its nothing personal and Honda/ DRI and RTO are crapping on each other and we are caught in the crossfire. Thanks for all your thoughts and concern and I will keep you guys posted.
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22nd December 2009, 01:59	#24
my969 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 8 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi Guys, Well after more than three and half months of waiting we finally got the registration of our bike what can I say, there is no excitement, just lethargy and indifference. Hey they could've waited 10 more days and given me a 2010 registration! I think I need some "Riding Therapy" to chase away this negativity. A nice long ride ALWAYS puts a big smile on my face. Thanks to all of you for sharing and for your concern.
	() Thanks

22nd December 2009, 05:13	#25
Bumble Beast BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 116 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	Went Through the whole thread, its quite an ironic situation as u describe it. Anyways, Now that You have your Registration, Can we please have the pics?
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22nd December 2009, 11:38	#26
sinner BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Thane - Mumbai Posts: 432 Thanked: 73 Times View My Garage	Congrats Brother... But Spill the beans.. what was the final tactics that paid off. and how did they get the whole situation in control. And ya not to forget "Awaiting Pics"
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23rd December 2009, 16:10	#27
manson Team-BHP Support Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 3,934 Thanked: 4,169 Times View My Garage	I'm glad that its finally paid off for you. But the lousy attitude of the sales staff across all superbike dealerships definitely needs a change. Their lethargic ways, lack of knowledge, negligible support even through paperwork is not going to help the companies' efforts of bring down such high end motorcycles. Heck, Akhil (Rossiter) at the Ducati dealership was told that the sales team was looking at branding for right now, and the sales were second priority. For obvious reasons, this did not make sense to me, why would a company want to go serious about branding when they are not looking at sales? And seriously, which company in whatever industry would not like early bird sales to write off immediate adverstising and other fixed costs? Till date, I havent got a follow up call on my intended cb1000 purchase from Jhaveri Honda in Mumbai. Their apparetly specialised sals head was going to call me in a couple of hours a few months ago. Most amongst the sales staff in the automotive industry have hardly any knowledge of their product, and their negligence to facts and learning is bound to turn back a prospective customer. manson.
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24th December 2009, 13:36	#28
straight6 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,548 Thanked: 296 Times	I just got back from Pune where I heard about someone who has a CB1000R and hasn't been able to register it for 5 months or so . You are better off! I also heard that Honda just sells the bike and don't bother about registration and all that where as Suzuki makes sure that they register the bike for its customer.
	() Thanks

24th December 2009, 14:00	#29
dipen Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 2,236 Thanked: 730 Times	@straight6 Since you have a lot of contacts/ friends who own these superbikes, can you get a list of documents that an official bike comes with like custom duty invoice, sales tax, other penalties, registration, insurance, etc (everything). If one can get these details, it can work out relatively cheaper if we ask a private importer to do the job and demand all these official copies without having any DRI fear. I positively believe, one can save close to a lakh this way. @my969 Can you also list of the documents that you have in hand post the registration of your bike. These would really help any wanna be owner of a superbike. This will also help people who are interested in user superbikes as to what documents they need to verify.
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