scorpio or innova?

raj_5004 · 6th January 2008, 12:18

With the launch of the new mHawk scorpio 2.2, the innova has a worthy competitor. although the mahindra cant match the toyota on overall levels of fit and finish, space and brand value, it offers much better refinement, performance and fuel efficiency. which is your pick of the two?

GTO - Touring · 6th January 2008, 16:19

IMHO, the Hawk is little more than an over-priced Scorpio. It only offers 5 BHP more and comes loaded with gizmos, half of which are impractical in India while the rest will malfunction sooner rather than later. Ask me, I know a thing or two about Mahindra electronics. If I had to buy a Scorpio, it would be the regular CRDe variant.

Between the two, the Innova is undoubtedly superior. It beats the Scorpio hollow on each parameter, except for image and 4x4 availability.

jerish666 · 6th January 2008, 16:25

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Originally Posted by GTO - Touring

IMHO, the Hawk is little more than an over-priced Scorpio. It only offers 5 BHP more and comes loaded with gizmos, half of which are impractical in India while the rest will malfunction sooner rather than later. Ask me, I know a thing or two about Mahindra electronics. If I had to buy a Scorpio, it would be the regular CRDe variant.

Between the two, the Innova is undoubtedly superior. It beats the Scorpio hollow on each parameter, except for image and 4x4 availability.

with GTO.Quality vise and comfort vise innova is superior.If you want a rugged look then scorpio is the best option.

snaronikar · 6th January 2008, 16:44

Innova all the way. I know the technical and quality standards toyota put in their vehicle. I would definately pick up Innova howmuch ever the performance/refinement etc the M&M gives...

tanmay_ambre · 6th January 2008, 17:30

Innova all the way. I don't like the interiors of a scorpio. There is absolutely nothing great about them. The finish also seems, cheap. If they are charging more than a million, they should have considered upgrading the interiors. Leather should have been by default. One consolidated armrest. The dashboard and intrument cluster should have looked free flowing. The grip on the dash should disappear.

BUSA · 6th January 2008, 19:02

I would pick up the Innova anyday. You cant compare the two, you cant seat 7 people comfortably in the Scorpio, wheras in the Innova you can.

Also Toyota's quality, fit and finish is way ahead of the Mahindra.

Pick the normal version if you want the Scorpio, the regular CRDe varaint or wait till the 2.2 comes in the base versions.

jaysmokesleaves · 6th January 2008, 19:21

raj_5004 : With the launch of the new mHawk scorpio 2.2, the innova has a worthy competitor. although the mahindra cant match the toyota on overall levels of fit and finish, space and brand value, it offers much better refinement, performance and fuel efficiency. which is your pick of the two?

the scorpio certainly does not offer better refinement than the innova.
performance difference is negligible too... but the point to note is : can the improved performance of the scorpio be harnessed completely.. i highly doubt. How many people will be comfortable pushing the limits of the scorpio given its pitchy handling even after the upgrade.( i tested the m hawk and i dont want to waste a thread on it) For the price of the m hawk mahindra hasnt done anything technically interesting other than a 5 bhp increase and tweaked suspension settings and all the funky gizmo which you could do without. Its another mahindra farce. like they have been doing with the bolero. add a little upgrade every 6 months & call it ALL NEW.
Lastly - efficiency, i do not think the efficiency of the innova and the scorpio are leagues apart to make a difference to a customer who will spend approx 12 lakhs.
So on all counts my vote is for the Innova.

Akshay1234 · 6th January 2008, 20:19

the scorpio just cannot match the innova in terms of refinement, build quality and space. also it isnt much quicker either. half a second or so. dunno about the 2.2, thought my innova is way quicker than the stock innova, the scorpio and safari 2.2s.(0-100)

bigman · 7th January 2008, 00:02

Innova all the way. mHawk is not worth all that money.

burnt. · 7th January 2008, 09:41

The Innova's USP is space. As long as the Scorpio lacks that, there is no point in comparison.

raj_5004 · 7th January 2008, 09:52

well, i think its true that the scorpio cant compare the innova in terms of space, ride and cabin quality. but its definetely a lot more quicker:
mHawk's 14.7 seconds for 0-100 kmph compared to innova's 17.3 seconds. i went for the mHawk test drive in my innova and believe me guys, the scorpio was actually more silent. handling although not upto innova levels was much much better now. infact, the i have never enjoyed driving the innova the way i enjoyed the mhawk.
so, i think the innova is for passenger comfort and the scorp is for those who love driving and dont care a damn about relabilty or quality.

manikjeet · 7th January 2008, 10:19

I would suggest the innova any day
its better build quality the legendary toyota reliability (my qualis ran 5.5lac km and the engine wasn't even touched just the normal service) the innova has the better fe

its not always about the 0 100 figures and the breaking is good

and in case of a accident (which i had recently in my innova) i didn't even feel a thing inside the cabin so i can say is a pretty safe vehicle from personal experience

i have been in this problem 3 times and the innova always wins

Akshay1234 · 7th January 2008, 11:39

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Originally Posted by raj_5004

well, i think its true that the scorpio cant compare the innova in terms of space, ride and cabin quality. but its definetely a lot more quicker:
mHawk's 14.7 seconds for 0-100 kmph compared to innova's 17.3 seconds. i went for the mHawk test drive in my innova and believe me guys, the scorpio was actually more silent. handling although not upto innova levels was much much better now. infact, the i have never enjoyed driving the innova the way i enjoyed the mhawk.
so, i think the innova is for passenger comfort and the scorp is for those who love driving and dont care a damn about relabilty or quality.

thats funny. i think the innova has a more comfortable driving position. but if you want to make the 0-100 time of your innova to 12.3 seconds then get a petes box. makes it a whole lot more fun to drive as well. see my gallery.

vinod_nookala · 7th January 2008, 11:46

hi,

Go for scorpio if u like to drive the vehicle yourself and want a true SUV. Innova must be your vehicle if u need a vehicle for family which is spacious and comfortable.

And if u need 4wd as an option then scorpio is your only option. Mhawk option is to be considered for that extra refinement and extra goddies for a hefty price. Try sticking to SLX version with CRde engine, it will serve most of the purposes.

If city driving is what u do most scorpio is good, highway scorpio is still good but handling of innova is better....

Buy scorpio for yourself, and innova for everybody else!

vinod

vinod_nookala · 7th January 2008, 11:52

hi,

Take scorpio for yourself and Innova for everybody else!!

6th January 2008, 12:18	#1
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,139 Times	scorpio or innova? With the launch of the new mHawk scorpio 2.2, the innova has a worthy competitor. although the mahindra cant match the toyota on overall levels of fit and finish, space and brand value, it offers much better refinement, performance and fuel efficiency. which is your pick of the two?
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6th January 2008, 16:19	#2
GTO - Touring BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 710 Thanked: 54 Times	IMHO, the Hawk is little more than an over-priced Scorpio. It only offers 5 BHP more and comes loaded with gizmos, half of which are impractical in India while the rest will malfunction sooner rather than later. Ask me, I know a thing or two about Mahindra electronics. If I had to buy a Scorpio, it would be the regular CRDe variant. Between the two, the Innova is undoubtedly superior. It beats the Scorpio hollow on each parameter, except for image and 4x4 availability.
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6th January 2008, 16:44	#4
snaronikar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,845 Thanked: 29 Times View My Garage	Innova all the way. I know the technical and quality standards toyota put in their vehicle. I would definately pick up Innova howmuch ever the performance/refinement etc the M&M gives...
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6th January 2008, 17:30	#5
tanmay_ambre BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pune. Posts: 80 Thanked: 0 Times	Innova all the way. I don't like the interiors of a scorpio. There is absolutely nothing great about them. The finish also seems, cheap. If they are charging more than a million, they should have considered upgrading the interiors. Leather should have been by default. One consolidated armrest. The dashboard and intrument cluster should have looked free flowing. The grip on the dash should disappear.
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6th January 2008, 19:02	#6
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	I would pick up the Innova anyday. You cant compare the two, you cant seat 7 people comfortably in the Scorpio, wheras in the Innova you can. Also Toyota's quality, fit and finish is way ahead of the Mahindra. Pick the normal version if you want the Scorpio, the regular CRDe varaint or wait till the 2.2 comes in the base versions.
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6th January 2008, 19:21	#7
jaysmokesleaves Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mostly Mumbai Posts: 1,702 Thanked: 1,452 Times	raj_5004 : With the launch of the new mHawk scorpio 2.2, the innova has a worthy competitor. although the mahindra cant match the toyota on overall levels of fit and finish, space and brand value, it offers much better refinement, performance and fuel efficiency. which is your pick of the two? the scorpio certainly does not offer better refinement than the innova. performance difference is negligible too... but the point to note is : can the improved performance of the scorpio be harnessed completely.. i highly doubt. How many people will be comfortable pushing the limits of the scorpio given its pitchy handling even after the upgrade.( i tested the m hawk and i dont want to waste a thread on it) For the price of the m hawk mahindra hasnt done anything technically interesting other than a 5 bhp increase and tweaked suspension settings and all the funky gizmo which you could do without. Its another mahindra farce. like they have been doing with the bolero. add a little upgrade every 6 months & call it ALL NEW. Lastly - efficiency, i do not think the efficiency of the innova and the scorpio are leagues apart to make a difference to a customer who will spend approx 12 lakhs. So on all counts my vote is for the Innova.
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6th January 2008, 20:19	#8
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,265 Thanked: 12,317 Times	the scorpio just cannot match the innova in terms of refinement, build quality and space. also it isnt much quicker either. half a second or so. dunno about the 2.2, thought my innova is way quicker than the stock innova, the scorpio and safari 2.2s.(0-100)
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7th January 2008, 00:02	#9
bigman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NA Posts: 1,224 Thanked: 93 Times	Innova all the way. mHawk is not worth all that money.
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7th January 2008, 09:41	#10
burnt. BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 251 Thanked: 26 Times	The Innova's USP is space. As long as the Scorpio lacks that, there is no point in comparison.
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7th January 2008, 09:52	#11
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,139 Times	well, i think its true that the scorpio cant compare the innova in terms of space, ride and cabin quality. but its definetely a lot more quicker: mHawk's 14.7 seconds for 0-100 kmph compared to innova's 17.3 seconds. i went for the mHawk test drive in my innova and believe me guys, the scorpio was actually more silent. handling although not upto innova levels was much much better now. infact, the i have never enjoyed driving the innova the way i enjoyed the mhawk. so, i think the innova is for passenger comfort and the scorp is for those who love driving and dont care a damn about relabilty or quality.
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7th January 2008, 10:19	#12
manikjeet Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 1,618 Thanked: 295 Times View My Garage	I would suggest the innova any day its better build quality the legendary toyota reliability (my qualis ran 5.5lac km and the engine wasn't even touched just the normal service) the innova has the better fe its not always about the 0 100 figures and the breaking is good and in case of a accident (which i had recently in my innova) i didn't even feel a thing inside the cabin so i can say is a pretty safe vehicle from personal experience i have been in this problem 3 times and the innova always wins
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7th January 2008, 11:46	#14
vinod_nookala Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,737 Thanked: 430 Times View My Garage	hi, Go for scorpio if u like to drive the vehicle yourself and want a true SUV. Innova must be your vehicle if u need a vehicle for family which is spacious and comfortable. And if u need 4wd as an option then scorpio is your only option. Mhawk option is to be considered for that extra refinement and extra goddies for a hefty price. Try sticking to SLX version with CRde engine, it will serve most of the purposes. If city driving is what u do most scorpio is good, highway scorpio is still good but handling of innova is better.... Buy scorpio for yourself, and innova for everybody else! vinod
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7th January 2008, 11:52	#15
vinod_nookala Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,737 Thanked: 430 Times View My Garage	hi, Take scorpio for yourself and Innova for everybody else!!
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