Team-BHP - Mahindra Scorpio : Issues & Solutions

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Originally Posted by chandrda (Post 1490298)

The entire scorpio vibrates at a particular speed and RPM in different gears. The vibration is not constant, anything above or below that particular speed and RPM, the vibrations stops. It seems to never go away.

The vibrations can result from any misalignment in (a) engine drivetrain or (b) wheels and its associated parts (suspension, linkages, axle etc). (a) would happen even with stationary vehicle and (b) would only happen while the vehicle is mobile. Since you confirm that it happens only with (b) and most areas have been checked, I feel the area still left unchecked is the wheel bearings.

In my Qualis, I remember, we had tapered bearings up front that required masterful approach to assembly and the Toyota mechanics had the uncanny ability never to do it right that would result in little wobbles after a few thousand kms of repair and replacement that costed >5000 for each set. Until, I mastered it and replaced it myself. The bearing set lasted >100000km and never gave a wobble.

Get the bearings also checked. It might be just this small fault and could be an easy repair.

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Originally Posted by Hoopoe (Post 1492792)

The front wheel hubs and bearings were thoroughly checked and refit couple of months back.

I put the back wheels on jack and run in the vehicle at the speed at which it vibrates, could see the propeller shaft jumping. I am not an expert but it was evident. Suppose to be new propeller shaft according to the Service Centre
Thinking to re-check the propeller shaft, differential, back wheel bearing and all this weekend at the Service Centre.

One more interesting thing I observed when I put the back wheels on jack and run the vehicle. Only the right wheel spins and not left wheel. Tried many times but only right wheel spins and left wheel is kind of stuck, can't event spin it with hand when the right wheels is spinning. Any one else has experienced this.

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Originally Posted by 4x4addict (Post 1489058)

I am actually surprised that someone is actually questioning the effectiveness/benefits of ABS. Buddy, you have a long way to go in understanding vehicle safety technologies. Don't forget that slippery conditions do not only mean wet conditions. Most of our highways have patches of sand gravel on the road.

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Just my two cents. Dont' want to convert anyone. If you feel ABS is useless, please save the money :-)

We don't do any kind of evangelization here but discuss things on technical grounds based on principle of Newtonian physics.

Buddy you jump to conclusion so soon , obviously you have not read the threads in context of discussion. It was not that ABS is useful or not.
Yes it is very useful and improves stability of vehicles
Some one commented that older Scorpio brakes are crappy and with ABS it is "improved" .

The discussion was how that happened ? Point is braking can not be just improved by adding ABS . Hydraulics and disc / drum diameter + pads and lining also need improvement.

For better braking something else must have been changed between old and new scorp. One thing which has definitely changed is weight on front wheels ( engine weight) but that is not a very big difference 80KG is like one Adult passenger less.
If anyone knows some things else please post.

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Originally Posted by chandrda (Post 1494917)

...run in the vehicle at the speed at which it vibrates, could see the propeller shaft jumping.

:thumbs up ...broken Universal joint bearings! The thought never occurred to me. That would be the cause of your vibrations - both braking and running at a particular RPM. I guess I've been using FWD for too long. :) Time to change...

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Originally Posted by chandrda (Post 1494917)

...only right wheel spins and left wheel is kind of stuck, can't event spin it with hand when the right wheels is spinning.

Left brake drum jammed, or handbrake on left side not releasing fully. Needs to be opened and serviced. Left rear wheel must be heating up more than the others on a long drive?

Friends,

I am getting delivery of my Scorpio tomorrow.

I had asked for Bridgestone tyres, the car came with JK so insisted them to change. They changed all 4 wheels to Bridgestone and that is when the problem started.

I went to workshop today and found out that the rear-left tyre tronics is not set. It shows low pressure although the pressure is correct and emits that warning sound all the time.
I asked the workshop people to fix it. They have now come back and said that they have reset everything (god knows what that means) and the sensors would get calibrated automatically after I drive 100 KMs. If not they have assured personally to come and fix. This does not sound logical to me.

I was in workshop in person and saw them replacing the faulty tyre with spare wheel but still no luck. So I guess the problem is with electronics and not the actual wheels.

So am I being taken for a ride by the dealer ? Is it big enough reson not to take the delivery tomorrow? Can it fixed easily later? Please advice as soon as possible, I need to decide before noon tomorrow (Dasssera)?

Thanks in advace.

hi buddy, this is the reason i am so skeptical about changing to new alloys in my scorpio, that damn sensors!

even i feel that the 100 kms thingy is illogical, i mean, they are not some mechanical component that needs running in.

but this is not a big reason to avoid taking delivery. take the delivery & enjoy your beast. just ensure that they do something to stop the continuous beeping of the rear left sensor till its fixed.

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Originally Posted by raj_5004 (Post 1504475)

Raj,
Thank you very much prompt reply.
Even I am keen on not changing the original fittings but many insisted that JK were the cheapest and Bridgestones were the best for Scorpio. So decided to insist on changing. I hope I won't regret the decision.

The dealer has said that the warning sound can be silenced (overridden). So I will take the delivery and see how things go.

100 KM things is dealer talk. Don't believe it but don't want to wait anymore.

BTW the information display in the centre has changed, so has the color scheme.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Anoop RD (Post 1504513)

Raj, will it be possible to turn off the sound from the sensors, the beep sound from the tyretronics can be sometimes annoying

no buddy, you cannot do that.

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Originally Posted by ScorpWarp (Post 1504553)

yes, indeed bridgestones are much better & you wont regret it.

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The dealer has said that the warning sound can be silenced (overridden). So I will take the delivery and see how things go.

thats good.

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BTW the information display in the centre has changed, so has the color scheme.

Thanks.

what did you mean by that? what colour scheme?

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Originally Posted by raj_5004 (Post 1504886)

no buddy, you cannot do that.

yes, indeed bridgestones are much better & you wont regret it.

thats good.

what did you mean by that? what colour scheme?

Finally got my hands on the beat :-)

The workshop people have silenced the tyre-tronics warnings. The warning light for the tyre-tronics keeps flashing but no annoying voice warnings.

Have done 55 kms today, going by the dealer the system should re-calibrate to new tyres after 100 kms so would know in 2 days time.

Attaching a photo pf the speedo - odo dials. The snap is from a cell phone. Would post some good pictures tomorrrow.

Regards.

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Originally Posted by ScorpWarp (Post 1505286)

OH MY GOD!!!! I've been had! Cheated! Ransacked! Sideswiped! Conned! What the hell is wrong with Mahindra?! :Shockked:

Hi All,

I have a Scorpio 2.6 2003 Model Gear Drive Non CRDE
It has done about 65,000 kms

During my last service center at MASS Bhasin Motors in New Delhi I was informed that the Main Belt replacement is recommended at 60,000 Kms. Since my Main belt was just fine they did not replace it.

Day after Tomorrow I leave for Manali and beyond, so I really do not want to take any chances and am planning to get the main belt replaced tomorrow.
I have checked the Original markings on the Main Belt . They are as follows :

31033 - Written in White at one place on the belt.
ROFAN 7K1720 EPDM 865 - Written on a Blue Square at another point.

This seems to be an Original Imported OEM Belt.

The belt in stock at the *** is another brand, and they are quoting Rs 1000 + Service Charges for it.

Does anybody have any experience of getting the fan belt replaced ? What is the right brand ?

Styler