Jeep engine packed up!! 130,000 kms up. Options?

Rudra Sen · 15th February 2006, 22:13

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Originally Posted by Aditya

While we are on the topic, why not try the Isuzu 4FG1 diesel? 2.4L, 78bhp. I think falcon has it in his Conti.

Adi bro, 1.8 ISZ only. Proven stuff. Cheap and easy to replace (you know my case). Smooth.

Aditya · 15th February 2006, 22:18

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Originally Posted by Rudra Sen

Adi bro, 1.8 ISZ only. Proven stuff. Cheap and easy to replace (you know my case). Smooth.

That's true. I drive one myself.

I just thought of giving GTO a "move up".

Rehaan · 16th February 2006, 03:36

The question is......
Do you want a petrol jeep ???
I guess you know the answer....

cya
R

ps - so did i hear you say all the problems started that night you let Rtech drive? lol

Rtech · 16th February 2006, 09:54

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ps - so did i hear you say all the problems started that night you let Rtech drive? lol

what, you mean a jeep is not supposed to revv till 7,000rpm?

I say go the whole hog and plonk in a 1.8. That diesel was terrible anyways! Oh yea, don't forget the gearbox as well.

shuvc · 16th February 2006, 10:09

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Originally Posted by Mpower

I dont know if a petrol engine will suit the character of a Mahindra. Simply dosent sound right !

I second that .. Mahindra = Diesel ... be it a rebuild or some other new diesel engine.

Sahil · 16th February 2006, 10:30

I'd say throw in a new engine. And bring on its "new life"
I see that this car has a lot of sentimental value to you and am sure you would never want to let go of it. An engine rebuild would give it some more time but a new engine would give it a much longer life span, maybe get past on to your next generation

So i strongly suggest you get a new diesel engine and better still get a turbo chargered one, if that still maintains the "jeep" image for you.

Rtech · 16th February 2006, 10:35

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if that still maintains the "jeep" image for you.

In almost all other countries where the Jeep is sold, it runs with petrol engines, so don't fall into the trap that Jeep=diesel. Its more like Mahindra=diesel.

To me, Jeep = inline 6 petrol actually!

jyobeb · 16th February 2006, 10:53

Hi! I think I mentioned here that I had CJ3B with a 1.8 Isuzu engine. I replaced the original engine which was the Hurricane petrol engine (4Kmpl!!) with this engine. I also used a 4 speed 4wd gearbox off an isuzu van/trooper. The rear drive was centred off the gear box and the front drive was offset to the right. I had to change the rear diff assembly to that of a Commander and the original front was used (Later changed to that of a 4WD Mahindra Van- wider track).
I found the ratio between the 2nd and the 3rd to be little too wide, but the engine managed to handle that. On an isuzu diesel (4FC1Turbo) (which I did for a friend) this was very irritating.
Overall I found the 1.8 to be tractable and very efficient (9Kmpl).
The option of mating the original gearbox to the 1.8 was tried and removed due to regular problems which cropped up. My personal opinion is that very powerful engines are not a very good option for a stock 80" wheelbase jeep.
Hope I could be of help.

Sideways · 16th February 2006, 13:48

Would have to agree with m power. Scorpio engine will urn it into a beast. Go for it.

nitrous · 16th February 2006, 14:32

Well, i've got a great idea.

Remove the CJ engine and keep it with u as it is.
Then, get the 1.8 ISZ for the peanuts it costs.
Get the transplant done along with the 4x4. Drive it around for a month, and if u have no problems with reliability,etc..stick to it.
Else, revert back to ur old engine and rebuild it.
Simple

deepakhon · 16th February 2006, 14:41

I would do as Nitrous has suggested.

tifosikrishna · 16th February 2006, 14:46

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Simple

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Joz · 16th February 2006, 14:54

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Originally Posted by Sideways

Would have to agree with m power. Scorpio engine will urn it into a beast. Go for it.

Would a scorpio engine fit in the CJ3B?

nitrous · 16th February 2006, 15:23

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Would a scorpio engine fit in the CJ3B?

Pretty complicated. And sourcing the engine might be a problem and i'm sure it would cost upwards of 2 lakhs.... Do u think its worth it??

jyobeb · 16th February 2006, 16:07

Can help you get a scorpio (regular) engine + gearbox (used) from Chennai for about 90K

View Poll Results: What engine?
Rebuild the diesel. You have torque, reliability and a factory fit feel	17	30.36%
Isuzu 1.8 Liter Petrol! Give us more power, baby!	39	69.64%
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

16th February 2006, 03:36	#18
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,287 Thanked: 35,260 Times	The question is...... Do you want a petrol jeep ??? I guess you know the answer.... cya R ps - so did i hear you say all the problems started that night you let Rtech drive? lol
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16th February 2006, 10:30	#21
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,322 Thanked: 7,767 Times	I'd say throw in a new engine. And bring on its "new life" I see that this car has a lot of sentimental value to you and am sure you would never want to let go of it. An engine rebuild would give it some more time but a new engine would give it a much longer life span, maybe get past on to your next generation So i strongly suggest you get a new diesel engine and better still get a turbo chargered one, if that still maintains the "jeep" image for you.
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16th February 2006, 10:53	#23
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	New Engine Hi! I think I mentioned here that I had CJ3B with a 1.8 Isuzu engine. I replaced the original engine which was the Hurricane petrol engine (4Kmpl!!) with this engine. I also used a 4 speed 4wd gearbox off an isuzu van/trooper. The rear drive was centred off the gear box and the front drive was offset to the right. I had to change the rear diff assembly to that of a Commander and the original front was used (Later changed to that of a 4WD Mahindra Van- wider track). I found the ratio between the 2nd and the 3rd to be little too wide, but the engine managed to handle that. On an isuzu diesel (4FC1Turbo) (which I did for a friend) this was very irritating. Overall I found the 1.8 to be tractable and very efficient (9Kmpl). The option of mating the original gearbox to the 1.8 was tried and removed due to regular problems which cropped up. My personal opinion is that very powerful engines are not a very good option for a stock 80" wheelbase jeep. Hope I could be of help.
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16th February 2006, 13:48	#24
Sideways BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Madras - India Posts: 641 Thanked: 31 Times View My Garage	Would have to agree with m power. Scorpio engine will urn it into a beast. Go for it.
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16th February 2006, 14:32	#25
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 329 Times View My Garage	Well, i've got a great idea. Remove the CJ engine and keep it with u as it is. Then, get the 1.8 ISZ for the peanuts it costs. Get the transplant done along with the 4x4. Drive it around for a month, and if u have no problems with reliability,etc..stick to it. Else, revert back to ur old engine and rebuild it. Simple
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16th February 2006, 14:41	#26
deepakhon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,441 Thanked: 65 Times	I would do as Nitrous has suggested.
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16th February 2006, 16:07	#30
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Can help you get a scorpio (regular) engine + gearbox (used) from Chennai for about 90K
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