Shom's Padmini S1 Restoration

samsag12 · 13th June 2013, 09:18

Rates for chrome plating varies from place to place so can't exactly comment on the same. In Lucknow, plating Fiat bumpers costs around Rs. 1000-2000 depending on the method followed.
The correct procedure, however, is Copper, Nickel Chrome for a perfect flawless finish which will last long. Please find a setup following this procedure.

For the side pattis, try to find UNITY make side pattis, will set you back around Rs. 350-500 for a set including clips.
Please correct point no. 2, its DEGASS tank & not Surge tank. Also add a 0.9 Psi radiator cap to the list, this is also a vital component.
For the location, try Chor Bazaar at Kurla, Santa Cruz et al. BHPians from Mumbai can comment better on this.

HimuraKenshin · 13th June 2013, 13:44

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Originally Posted by samsag12

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For the location, try Chor Bazaar at Kurla, Santa Cruz et al. BHPians from Mumbai can comment better on this.

Thats the funny thing is, no one from mumbai is commenting :P

manishalive · 13th June 2013, 15:43

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Originally Posted by samsag12

Also add a 0.9 Psi radiator cap to the list, this is also a vital component.

0.9 psi may not even be available. Would be too low. Most common caps are available in 7 psig and 14 psig (14.7 psig to be precise) ratings. Equivalent to 0.5 & 1 Kg/cm2. Other ratings might be available.

A good 7 psi rating cap will do here. The jacket water temperature would not be more than 90 deg. And this cap will do good. Any systems deploying temperatures 110 and above do require pressurised systems of 1.5 - 2 Kg at operating temperature.

HimuraKenshin · 14th June 2013, 10:01

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Originally Posted by manishalive

A good 7 psi rating cap will do here.

I called a few people, no one seems to have parts for the S1. I inquired about the closed type radiator, and they say, "Saaar, aap padmini wala hi use kijiye. woh tikau hai"
lol
Anyone from mumbai? Help please!

desertfox · 14th June 2013, 12:37

My best wishes, this is quite a project, even in the city of Mumbai my guess is that Fiat / Padmini parts would be hard to procure. This is the prime reason why I sold my 1981 model Premier Padmini in 2011, it has delivered great service for a full 31 years, more than what one could expect from a car.

But honestly I miss it because there are a lot of memories attached to it. If parts were available I would have restored it, I did restore two Jeeps a CJ3B and MM550, it would have progressed the same way.

samsag12 · 15th June 2013, 08:46

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Originally Posted by HimuraKenshin

I called a few people, no one seems to have parts for the S1. I inquired about the closed type radiator, and they say, "Saaar, aap padmini wala hi use kijiye. woh tikau hai"
lol
Anyone from mumbai? Help please!

You will have to either HUNT for these parts or get them fabricated, these components aren't available off the shelf even in scrap markets.

The best person who can guide you in this regard is Mr. Dhabhar. I will forward him link to this thread & hope he finds some time from his busy schedule & reply to your queries.
Till then keep scouting the markets.

HimuraKenshin · 24th June 2013, 09:58

Hey guys,
here are some more updates on the car.
I spoke to Mr. Dhabhar, and he gave me valuable advise.
As of now, the 3M bondo/ body filler work is done.
The body filler was sanded down, and a coat of zinc primer was applied.
After this, they applied an oil based surfacer (lambi is the colloquial term i think) .

The painter said that after the lambi dries, they will sand it down, then apply another layer of primer, then sand it, then check the body line and fill the minor defects, then comes the first layer of under coat, after which they will again check for imperfections and apply lambi, then sand, them apply paint.

painting is such a long process

I have also purchased the garage guys 3M under body coat.
They will be applying the under body coat today or tomorrow.
OMNYOMNYOM 3M

saket77 · 24th June 2013, 10:08

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Originally Posted by HimuraKenshin

As of now, the 3M bondo/ body filler work is done.
The body filler was sanded down, and a coat of zinc primer was applied.
After this, they applied an oil based surfacer (lambi is the colloquial term i think) .

I have also purchased the garage guys 3M under body coat.
They will be applying the under body coat today or tomorrow.
OMNYOMNYOM 3M

Its great to see that how the sentimental value of a car out-classes its market value. You are giving the car a royal treatment with top-notch products. Hope & wish that it comes out as your imagination.

HimuraKenshin · 25th June 2013, 22:31

Hi
I just got back home. On the way back form work, i stopped at the garage. Obviously, no one was there.
i was greeted by my car, which had been toppled to one side.

There is some major rust on the chassis which will be repaired.
Here are the pictures,
Do pardon the quality of photographs, i had to make do with my phone flash.

HimuraKenshin · 26th June 2013, 21:07

Hey!
the chassis has been repaired. My friend had a look at the weld joints and he said that it looks to be a very good weld.
Do give me your verdicts.

Btw, i have a query, do you think i can buff the valve cover of the S1? What metal is it? Aluminum?

samsag12 · 26th June 2013, 22:59

Good to see updates, looks like this will turn out to be a perfectly restored S1.

Regarding the Valve/rocker/tappet cover, you will have to get it painted as its made of iron.
I presume you will, in the process, get the engine unit cleaned up & detailed too.

HimuraKenshin · 27th June 2013, 09:17

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Originally Posted by samsag12

Good to see updates, looks like this will turn out to be a perfectly restored S1.

Regarding the Valve/rocker/tappet cover, you will have to get it painted as its made of iron.
I presume you will, in the process, get the engine unit cleaned up & detailed too.

oh!
i thought it was aluminum? I didn't know that valve covers were at a point made out of iron.
I want to chrome plate it, do you think it is possible?\

yes, the engine will be completely serviced .

HimuraKenshin · 21st July 2013, 20:14

So the car was finally painted.
The weather here is horrible, so i rented out a paint booth.
I chose Estoril blue Crystal, OEM for Audi.
Paint Quality was Dupont Centari 600
Clear Coat was Mipa high solids clear.
Was painted in a sealed paint booth and baked at 65 degrees centigrade for 3 hours.
Here are the pictures.

SirAlec · 21st July 2013, 22:24

Just my take on the color. The matte undercoat if used would have looked wicked on the car. what say guys?

dmplog · 26th July 2013, 16:47

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Originally Posted by SirAlec

Just my take on the color. The matte undercoat if used would have looked wicked on the car. what say guys?

Agree - Matte would have looked wicked! But, this is a classic car and IMO classic cars look great in gloss!! Just my view

13th June 2013, 09:18	#31
samsag12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: City of Nawaabs Posts: 1,627 Thanked: 263 Times View My Garage	Re: Shom's Padmini S1 Restoration Rates for chrome plating varies from place to place so can't exactly comment on the same. In Lucknow, plating Fiat bumpers costs around Rs. 1000-2000 depending on the method followed. The correct procedure, however, is Copper, Nickel Chrome for a perfect flawless finish which will last long. Please find a setup following this procedure. For the side pattis, try to find UNITY make side pattis, will set you back around Rs. 350-500 for a set including clips. Please correct point no. 2, its DEGASS tank & not Surge tank. Also add a 0.9 Psi radiator cap to the list, this is also a vital component. For the location, try Chor Bazaar at Kurla, Santa Cruz et al. BHPians from Mumbai can comment better on this. Last edited by samsag12 : 13th June 2013 at 09:24.
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14th June 2013, 12:37	#35
desertfox Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurgaon, Delhi NCR Posts: 1,270 Thanked: 652 Times	Re: Shom's Padmini S1 Restoration My best wishes, this is quite a project, even in the city of Mumbai my guess is that Fiat / Padmini parts would be hard to procure. This is the prime reason why I sold my 1981 model Premier Padmini in 2011, it has delivered great service for a full 31 years, more than what one could expect from a car. But honestly I miss it because there are a lot of memories attached to it. If parts were available I would have restored it, I did restore two Jeeps a CJ3B and MM550, it would have progressed the same way.
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24th June 2013, 09:58	#37
HimuraKenshin BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mumbai/London Posts: 287 Thanked: 329 Times	Re: Shom's Padmini S1 Restoration Hey guys, here are some more updates on the car. I spoke to Mr. Dhabhar, and he gave me valuable advise. As of now, the 3M bondo/ body filler work is done. The body filler was sanded down, and a coat of zinc primer was applied. After this, they applied an oil based surfacer (lambi is the colloquial term i think) . The painter said that after the lambi dries, they will sand it down, then apply another layer of primer, then sand it, then check the body line and fill the minor defects, then comes the first layer of under coat, after which they will again check for imperfections and apply lambi, then sand, them apply paint. painting is such a long process I have also purchased the garage guys 3M under body coat. They will be applying the under body coat today or tomorrow. OMNYOMNYOM 3M Attached Thumbnails
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25th June 2013, 22:31	#39
HimuraKenshin BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mumbai/London Posts: 287 Thanked: 329 Times	Re: Shom's Padmini S1 Restoration Hi I just got back home. On the way back form work, i stopped at the garage. Obviously, no one was there. i was greeted by my car, which had been toppled to one side. There is some major rust on the chassis which will be repaired. Here are the pictures, Do pardon the quality of photographs, i had to make do with my phone flash. Attached Thumbnails
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26th June 2013, 21:07	#40
HimuraKenshin BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mumbai/London Posts: 287 Thanked: 329 Times	Re: Shom's Padmini S1 Restoration Hey! the chassis has been repaired. My friend had a look at the weld joints and he said that it looks to be a very good weld. Do give me your verdicts. Btw, i have a query, do you think i can buff the valve cover of the S1? What metal is it? Aluminum? Attached Thumbnails
	(1) Thanks

26th June 2013, 22:59	#41
samsag12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: City of Nawaabs Posts: 1,627 Thanked: 263 Times View My Garage	Re: Shom's Padmini S1 Restoration Good to see updates, looks like this will turn out to be a perfectly restored S1. Regarding the Valve/rocker/tappet cover, you will have to get it painted as its made of iron. I presume you will, in the process, get the engine unit cleaned up & detailed too.
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21st July 2013, 20:14	#43
HimuraKenshin BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mumbai/London Posts: 287 Thanked: 329 Times	Re: Shom's Padmini S1 Restoration So the car was finally painted. The weather here is horrible, so i rented out a paint booth. I chose Estoril blue Crystal, OEM for Audi. Paint Quality was Dupont Centari 600 Clear Coat was Mipa high solids clear. Was painted in a sealed paint booth and baked at 65 degrees centigrade for 3 hours. Here are the pictures. Attached Thumbnails
	(1) Thanks

21st July 2013, 22:24	#44
SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,393 Thanked: 727 Times	Re: Shom's Padmini S1 Restoration Just my take on the color. The matte undercoat if used would have looked wicked on the car. what say guys?
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