Parking puzzle

venkatrx · 30th May 2006, 12:28

Guys,

I need some technical help, not really automotive, but its more of geometry and architectural in nature.

I have a baleno.

My portico(car park) is 30 inches above the road-level.
The distance between the edge of my portico and the begining of the road is 100 inches.

Now i need to get my car inside the portico, but i believe that the inclination is too steep and my car will bottom out.

please help me with a solution.

constraints.
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The porticio height cannot be decreased as it is the top of a sump tank.

naveendhyani · 30th May 2006, 13:31

for sure the car will bottom out. more so even before it bottoms out the front bumper will hit the slope.

aravindr · 30th May 2006, 13:58

You need to make a temporary wooden ramp that will have a longer base say upto 200 inches from the edge of your portico. You need to keep the height to match the portico base. This will extend longer to the road. As you cannot keep this permanently, you will have to use this only when you park or take your car out.

deepug · 30th May 2006, 14:06

What is the length of the portico. If you have length to spare then you can think of reducing the incline

Deepu

kpzen · 30th May 2006, 14:07

Try taking it slowly in a diagonal direction if the bumper in front doesnt touch..
The wooden plank or ramp seems to be the only "pukka jugaad"

KP

deepug · 30th May 2006, 14:13

One more option you have is to have the incline continued into the portico, such that the car does not bottom out, only problem is you will have the car parked always in an inclined position.

Deepu

DRC · 30th May 2006, 15:31

Try with curvature incline. Like steps or road bumps. Will not be a smooth drive into the porch, but may work.

naveendhyani · 30th May 2006, 15:51

@ venkatrx : wud it b possible for u to send a couple of pics of the same from different angles.

BTW i tried it with 3d simulation which by far tells me that
1. the bumper will hit the incline
2. the bottom will scrape at the top of the incline

will try it with 3d simulation, hopefully will get with a way out.

Check out the arrangement shown in the pic. the bottom pic is how the normal incline wud b but the above pic shows my way of creating an incline which in my opinion will not scrape the bottom of the car.

venkatrx · 30th May 2006, 17:14

guys, thanks for your enthusiastic response.

the length of the portico is 16 feet.

naveen, one more idea to reduce the inclination is the begining of slope can have a jump-start i mean when the car just starts to climb the slope, we can start that with a height of 6 inches(b'cos gc is 172 mm) instead of starting at zero height.

naveendhyani · 30th May 2006, 17:19

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Originally Posted by venkatrx

naveen, one more idea to reduce the inclination is the begining of slope can have a jump-start i mean when the car just starts to climb the slope, we can start that with a height of 6 inches(b'cos gc is 172 mm) instead of starting at zero height.

thats a good idea but doin it daily wud b really an issue.

just outside my parking space the ground is elevated approx 2-3 inches and trust me how much i dislike 2 rev up right when i have 2 take my car out.

pmbabu · 30th May 2006, 17:57

Where were you parking all these days Venkat?

rks · 30th May 2006, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by venkatrx

guys, thanks for your enthusiastic response.

the length of the portico is 16 feet.

naveen, one more idea to reduce the inclination is the begining of slope can have a jump-start i mean when the car just starts to climb the slope, we can start that with a height of 6 inches(b'cos gc is 172 mm) instead of starting at zero height.

Making the car go over a 6-inch step may be OK once in a while, but doing it every day may not be good for your tyres/tubes.
Regards, rks

apurvapatel · 30th May 2006, 19:30

I had a similar problem. The incline to the parking area in my house was too steep and my NHC use to bottom out. The silencer pipe use to scrape the gound. I got the inclination extended about 1.5 - 2 foot onto the road and it solved the problem. If you can do that, I guess that would be the best solution.. if not, I guess, as aravindr said, the temporary wooden plank is the best bet.

venkatrx · 30th May 2006, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmbabu

Where were you parking all these days Venkat?

i am parking at my friends place :(

angelfire · 31st May 2006, 09:47

Hey buddy...why dont you extend the inclination from the road til the end of your car park...guess someone has already suggested this idea....wel the inclination wil also be reduced.....

30th May 2006, 12:28	#1
venkatrx BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 453 Thanked: 4 Times	Parking puzzle Guys, I need some technical help, not really automotive, but its more of geometry and architectural in nature. I have a baleno. My portico(car park) is 30 inches above the road-level. The distance between the edge of my portico and the begining of the road is 100 inches. Now i need to get my car inside the portico, but i believe that the inclination is too steep and my car will bottom out. please help me with a solution. constraints. ----------- The porticio height cannot be decreased as it is the top of a sump tank.
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30th May 2006, 13:31	#2
naveendhyani BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 542 Thanked: 9 Times	for sure the car will bottom out. more so even before it bottoms out the front bumper will hit the slope.
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30th May 2006, 13:58	#3
aravindr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 56 Thanked: 18 Times	You need to make a temporary wooden ramp that will have a longer base say upto 200 inches from the edge of your portico. You need to keep the height to match the portico base. This will extend longer to the road. As you cannot keep this permanently, you will have to use this only when you park or take your car out.
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30th May 2006, 14:06	#4
deepug BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 91 Thanked: 27 Times	What is the length of the portico. If you have length to spare then you can think of reducing the incline Deepu
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30th May 2006, 14:07	#5
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,609 Thanked: 1,882 Times View My Garage	Try taking it slowly in a diagonal direction if the bumper in front doesnt touch.. The wooden plank or ramp seems to be the only "pukka jugaad" KP
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30th May 2006, 14:13	#6
deepug BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 91 Thanked: 27 Times	One more option you have is to have the incline continued into the portico, such that the car does not bottom out, only problem is you will have the car parked always in an inclined position. Deepu
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30th May 2006, 15:31	#7
DRC BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cockpit Posts: 907 Thanked: 67 Times View My Garage	Try with curvature incline. Like steps or road bumps. Will not be a smooth drive into the porch, but may work.
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30th May 2006, 15:51	#8
naveendhyani BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 542 Thanked: 9 Times	@ venkatrx : wud it b possible for u to send a couple of pics of the same from different angles. BTW i tried it with 3d simulation which by far tells me that 1. the bumper will hit the incline 2. the bottom will scrape at the top of the incline will try it with 3d simulation, hopefully will get with a way out. Check out the arrangement shown in the pic. the bottom pic is how the normal incline wud b but the above pic shows my way of creating an incline which in my opinion will not scrape the bottom of the car. Last edited by naveendhyani : 30th May 2006 at 16:09.
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30th May 2006, 17:14	#9
venkatrx BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 453 Thanked: 4 Times	guys, thanks for your enthusiastic response. the length of the portico is 16 feet. naveen, one more idea to reduce the inclination is the begining of slope can have a jump-start i mean when the car just starts to climb the slope, we can start that with a height of 6 inches(b'cos gc is 172 mm) instead of starting at zero height.
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30th May 2006, 17:57	#11
pmbabu BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On The Net Posts: 345 Thanked: 60 Times	Where were you parking all these days Venkat?
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30th May 2006, 19:30	#13
apurvapatel BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Rajkot Posts: 29 Thanked: 2 Times	I had a similar problem. The incline to the parking area in my house was too steep and my NHC use to bottom out. The silencer pipe use to scrape the gound. I got the inclination extended about 1.5 - 2 foot onto the road and it solved the problem. If you can do that, I guess that would be the best solution.. if not, I guess, as aravindr said, the temporary wooden plank is the best bet.
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31st May 2006, 09:47	#15
angelfire BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mangalore/Chicago Posts: 251 Thanked: Once View My Garage	Hey buddy...why dont you extend the inclination from the road til the end of your car park...guess someone has already suggested this idea....wel the inclination wil also be reduced.....
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