Your choice of Gear Box: Tall or Short?

Mpower · 19th June 2006, 23:30

I'll take a 6 speed box with short ratios on the first 5 and closely stacked. Make the 6th a tall overdrive for cruising.

aah78 · 20th June 2006, 02:44

Tall gearing is preferred on a large sedan or touring car for comfortable road (highway) cruising. Short gearing on the other hand is preferable on a sports car.

Shan2nu · 20th June 2006, 12:00

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I'll take a 6 speed box with short ratios on the first 5 and closely stacked. Make the 6th a tall overdrive for cruising.

You said it man. Thats how it should be. Acc and FE from the same gearbox.

Shan2nu

COUGAR · 20th June 2006, 21:30

Whats the gear ratios for the Gypsy King MPFI and the older 413's?

Boom Shiva · 21st June 2006, 00:30

I'd actually prefer a balance between the two for everyday use. Too short is a pain on highways and too tall will be a pain in the city.

chetanhanda · 24th June 2006, 06:49

I prefer short gear boxes ..but then it should be a 6 speed with overdrive as the 6th gear.
just love to keep my hand on the gear knob and shift and hear the revs rise before shifting again...

revvesteem · 26th October 2006, 22:28

i am in anyhow shortening gear ratio of my esteem. i prefer shorter ratios coz i am fed up with the horrible ratios of the carin the city. i also want 2 know how can i shorten it in the simplest way. 1) reducing tyre dia
2) changing final drive ratio. can anyone tell an approximate cost for doing the (2)?

danlalan · 26th October 2006, 23:33

i guess short is better in city traffic and BKC...and for highway driving not very tall..but tall enough...

elf · 27th October 2006, 04:01

I too would prefer a close ratio box with a tall overdrive, preferably 6th.

Haven't responded to the poll as the question needs to be re-worded, I guess...

heavy_foot · 27th October 2006, 05:12

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Originally Posted by revvesteem

i am in anyhow shortening gear ratio of my esteem. i prefer shorter ratios coz i am fed up with the horrible ratios of the carin the city. i also want 2 know how can i shorten it in the simplest way. 1) reducing tyre dia
2) changing final drive ratio. can anyone tell an approximate cost for doing the (2)?

how about mating the gearbox of a zen on the esteem...can the experts comment on this one.

viper · 27th October 2006, 09:07

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Originally Posted by heavy_foot

how about mating the gearbox of a zen on the esteem...can the experts comment on this one.

Hi,

This is a very common upgrade and has been done by several guys. Straight forward job.

Viper

its.me.ankur · 27th October 2006, 10:03

i would prefer....short at fr the starting gears ...n a really tall one fr the last
which i think might help in both pick up and top speed

razor4077 · 18th April 2007, 20:04

just wanted to clarify this... are we talking about the gear ratios here, or the actual gear shifting (eg: short shifters)? or are they the same thing?!
if this is a stupid question... hey, i'm only human

sreenivass · 18th April 2007, 21:12

I am happy with short gearing of Petra in 1 and 2, but 3,4 and 5 seem to have some good range. 3rd gear lets me go to 80+ from as low as 25-30 KMPH and 4th lets me any where between 40 and almost 100 KMPH. I'd not like to be in 1st and second much.

Shan2nu · 18th April 2007, 21:30

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I am happy with short gearing of Petra in 1 and 2, but 3,4 and 5 seem to have some good range. 3rd gear lets me go to 80+ from as low as 25-30 KMPH and 4th lets me any where between 40 and almost 100 KMPH. I'd not like to be in 1st and second much.

You've got it wrong somewhere. 3rd and 4th maxing out below 100kmph????

PS : Do you drive a Petra 1.9 by any chance?

Shan2nu

View Poll Results: What type of Gear Box do you prefer? (Tall / Short)
Short	53	54.64%
Tall	37	38.14%
Does not matter	7	7.22%
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19th June 2006, 23:30	#16
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	I'll take a 6 speed box with short ratios on the first 5 and closely stacked. Make the 6th a tall overdrive for cruising.
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20th June 2006, 02:44	#17
aah78 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NYC / BOM Posts: 4,661 Thanked: 3,254 Times View My Garage	Tall gearing is preferred on a large sedan or touring car for comfortable road (highway) cruising. Short gearing on the other hand is preferable on a sports car.
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20th June 2006, 21:30	#19
COUGAR BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 548 Thanked: 94 Times View My Garage	Whats the gear ratios for the Gypsy King MPFI and the older 413's?
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21st June 2006, 00:30	#20
Boom Shiva BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,055 Thanked: 18 Times	I'd actually prefer a balance between the two for everyday use. Too short is a pain on highways and too tall will be a pain in the city. Last edited by Rehaan : 21st June 2006 at 10:43.
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24th June 2006, 06:49	#21
chetanhanda BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 887 Thanked: 49 Times View My Garage	I prefer short gear boxes ..but then it should be a 6 speed with overdrive as the 6th gear. just love to keep my hand on the gear knob and shift and hear the revs rise before shifting again...
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26th October 2006, 22:28	#22
revvesteem Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: kochi Posts: 8 Thanked: 0 Times	i am in anyhow shortening gear ratio of my esteem. i prefer shorter ratios coz i am fed up with the horrible ratios of the carin the city. i also want 2 know how can i shorten it in the simplest way. 1) reducing tyre dia 2) changing final drive ratio. can anyone tell an approximate cost for doing the (2)?
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26th October 2006, 23:33	#23
danlalan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: mumbai,JUHU Posts: 1,636 Thanked: 263 Times View My Garage	i guess short is better in city traffic and BKC...and for highway driving not very tall..but tall enough...
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27th October 2006, 04:01	#24
elf BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,039 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	I too would prefer a close ratio box with a tall overdrive, preferably 6th. Haven't responded to the poll as the question needs to be re-worded, I guess...
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27th October 2006, 10:03	#27
its.me.ankur BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: delhi Posts: 33 Thanked: 29 Times	i would prefer....short at fr the starting gears ...n a really tall one fr the last which i think might help in both pick up and top speed
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18th April 2007, 20:04	#28
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,882 Thanked: 298 Times View My Garage	just wanted to clarify this... are we talking about the gear ratios here, or the actual gear shifting (eg: short shifters)? or are they the same thing?! if this is a stupid question... hey, i'm only human
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18th April 2007, 21:12	#29
sreenivass BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore India Posts: 932 Thanked: 44 Times View My Garage	I am happy with short gearing of Petra in 1 and 2, but 3,4 and 5 seem to have some good range. 3rd gear lets me go to 80+ from as low as 25-30 KMPH and 4th lets me any where between 40 and almost 100 KMPH. I'd not like to be in 1st and second much.
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