Filled Diesel instead of petrol by mistake!?

Neel · 16th June 2006, 21:29

I remember seeing a thread on this, not able to find it. Can someone point me to it.

Problem : Diesel used instead of petrol in a Palio 1.6 and driven for about 10KM. The car does not start now.
Is it enough to empty the tank, and clean the spark plugs?

Any suggestions are welcome.

autozealot · 16th June 2006, 22:05

First thing you go to FIAT people. They will recommend the best options for your car. What about the diesel which is still there in the fuel lines.

In the first place how did diesel find its way into a petrol car. Didnt you notice this at the time of re-fueling???

az

jkdas · 16th June 2006, 23:28

similar thing happened in my town. Driver takes teh Grand Vitara to pump. Feeds diesel. But somehow it wont start or so. Now, he calls owner

. Suzuki guys drive down and clean tank. Lucky chap.

Call your Fiat dealer! Hope you didnt damage anything.

ajmat · 17th June 2006, 10:29

If it was not much dielsel, you should have filled the tank up with petrol and driven on till quarter tank was over and kept topping up + adding lots of additive/ injector cleaner.

You probably need to clean out injectors

yogi1771 · 17th June 2006, 10:39

same experience with my car(fiesta 1.6) while i was in udupi adulterated fuel (petrol+diesel) the car would stall every now and then at the next fill up added acetone(to every litre of petrol add 2.5ml of acetone) the car is running just fine

Neel · 17th June 2006, 15:44

Talked to Manipal motors : They first made me wait. Then they said that the helpline would not be able to help as they were busy till evening.
They also said that they only do minor repairs and service for fiat and fiat owners typically need atleast 15 days advance booking.
NEVER EXPECTED THIS AS AN ANSWER!!

No option fos us !!
we towed the car to a local workshop (Sri Sai Garage) next to Brooke Fields, he emptied the tank and cleaned the injection and spark plugs. It is up and running now.

Lessons learnt :
- Always get out of the car while filling fuel (especially on the city outskirts, where there are small gas stations). Stick to a few good ones.
- The injection and fuel transmission is a little sophisticated in new cars, better to get it cleaned at a decent workshop, even if you pay a little more on towing charges.

This is something my brother will remember i suppose!!!

Thanks for your inputs!

PS : Where will you get acetone on the highway?
-Neel

wolfinstein · 17th June 2006, 16:44

seems like you missed the Acetone Thread...Acetone is available commercially anywhere in the highway or villages or pit stop...Just ask for Nail Polish Remover - That is acetone..! Oh yes..You can try Lakme Nail Polish remover- comes with added vitamens-good for engine..

..Just kidding ..Add any nail polish remover in the 2.5 ml/ Ltr of Petrol Ratio.

Industry Strength Acetone is available at good chemical or Hardware shops- Its used to clean Glass and Optical shops also can sell you a bottle.

regards

vahss_11 · 17th June 2006, 17:23

you can go to TATA service center.. they will do the job better then Fiat itself...

lamborghini · 17th June 2006, 17:40

Something quite the opposite happened with our Fiat Siena TD60 Diesel.
We went to our regular HP petrolpump and he guy mistook our Diesel Siena for a Petrol one (the car was incredibly refined for a petrolpump fellow to think it was a petrol) and he filled up around 5 lts of Petrol when our driver noticed it and brought it to their attention. So they spent the next couple of hours cleaning the tank and they filled it up with diesel for free.(sadly the fuel prices were not as high as they are now otherwise we would have saved thousands.)

ajmat · 17th June 2006, 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by lamborghini

k our Diesel Siena for a Petrol one (the car was incredibly refined for a petrolpump fellow to think it was a petrol) and he filled up around 5 lts of Petrol when our driver noticed it and brought it to their attention.

If this was a CRDi engine, it would have been curtains if you had started it. The fine tolerances meant that neat petrol would have hampered the lubricity causing instant wear of the injection pump. Metal particles + high pressue = mayhem

IF THIS HAPPENS ON A CRDi - DO NOT START THE CAR. TOW IT

Neel · 17th June 2006, 18:24

Yes, Diesel in petrol cars may cause less damage when compared to Pertol in diesel cars.

autozealot · 18th June 2006, 00:49

Firstly Neel, good that the problem is solved.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lamborghini

So they spent the next couple of hours cleaning the tank and they filled it up with diesel for free.(sadly the fuel prices were not as high as they are now otherwise we would have saved thousands.)

Hey Lambor, which petrol pump was this? Just wanted to know

az

pramodkumar · 18th June 2006, 10:32

[quote=Neel]Talked to Manipal motors : They first made me wait. Then they said that the helpline would not be able to help as they were busy till evening.
They also said that they only do minor repairs and service for fiat and fiat owners typically need atleast 15 days advance booking.
NEVER EXPECTED THIS AS AN ANSWER!!

Hey Neel i think you have never heared of the varunroy story. he braught a sumo from manipal motors and got a similar kind of responce from there when he had a problem, I was under the impression that things will improve for fiat as tata is doing marketing and after sales for fiat in india but things are going verymuch the same way. I dont know how can some service station make such a bold and ignorant statement that if we have a problem with our car we need to book 15 days in advance for a checkup.

Are these people running a service station or a multi speciality Hospital.

autozealot · 18th June 2006, 23:38

[quote=pramodkumar

Are these people running a service station or a multi speciality Hospital.[/quote]

Or are they just potraying how busy they are

I remember waiting at a FIAT dealership at Lower Parel just to get my front door speaker replaced which was under warranty from the company itself. What should have taken not more than 30 mins, they made me wait for two and a half hours. This was in 2001 when I used to have a Uno 1.2 ELX.

Cheers! (to the FIAT guys.........hahaha)

az

tsk1979 · 19th June 2006, 00:29

Don't worry, diesel in petrol is okay, just drain and fill petrol.

16th June 2006, 21:29	#1
Neel BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 171 Thanked: 27 Times	Filled Diesel instead of petrol by mistake!? I remember seeing a thread on this, not able to find it. Can someone point me to it. Problem : Diesel used instead of petrol in a Palio 1.6 and driven for about 10KM. The car does not start now. Is it enough to empty the tank, and clean the spark plugs? Any suggestions are welcome.
	() Thanks

16th June 2006, 22:05	#2
autozealot BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 204 Thanked: 4 Times	First thing you go to FIAT people. They will recommend the best options for your car. What about the diesel which is still there in the fuel lines. In the first place how did diesel find its way into a petrol car. Didnt you notice this at the time of re-fueling??? az
	() Thanks

16th June 2006, 23:28	#3
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,682 Thanked: 1,454 Times View My Garage	similar thing happened in my town. Driver takes teh Grand Vitara to pump. Feeds diesel. But somehow it wont start or so. Now, he calls owner. Suzuki guys drive down and clean tank. Lucky chap. Call your Fiat dealer! Hope you didnt damage anything.
	() Thanks

17th June 2006, 10:29	#4
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 13,474 Thanked: 17,101 Times View My Garage	If it was not much dielsel, you should have filled the tank up with petrol and driven on till quarter tank was over and kept topping up + adding lots of additive/ injector cleaner. You probably need to clean out injectors
	() Thanks

17th June 2006, 10:39	#5
yogi1771 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 631 Thanked: 14 Times	same experience with my car(fiesta 1.6) while i was in udupi adulterated fuel (petrol+diesel) the car would stall every now and then at the next fill up added acetone(to every litre of petrol add 2.5ml of acetone) the car is running just fine
	() Thanks

17th June 2006, 15:44	#6
Neel BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 171 Thanked: 27 Times	Talked to Manipal motors : They first made me wait. Then they said that the helpline would not be able to help as they were busy till evening. They also said that they only do minor repairs and service for fiat and fiat owners typically need atleast 15 days advance booking. NEVER EXPECTED THIS AS AN ANSWER!! No option fos us !! we towed the car to a local workshop (Sri Sai Garage) next to Brooke Fields, he emptied the tank and cleaned the injection and spark plugs. It is up and running now. Lessons learnt : - Always get out of the car while filling fuel (especially on the city outskirts, where there are small gas stations). Stick to a few good ones. - The injection and fuel transmission is a little sophisticated in new cars, better to get it cleaned at a decent workshop, even if you pay a little more on towing charges. This is something my brother will remember i suppose!!! Thanks for your inputs! PS : Where will you get acetone on the highway? -Neel
	() Thanks

17th June 2006, 16:44	#7
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 994 Thanked: 16 Times	seems like you missed the Acetone Thread...Acetone is available commercially anywhere in the highway or villages or pit stop...Just ask for Nail Polish Remover - That is acetone..! Oh yes..You can try Lakme Nail Polish remover- comes with added vitamens-good for engine.. ..Just kidding ..Add any nail polish remover in the 2.5 ml/ Ltr of Petrol Ratio. Industry Strength Acetone is available at good chemical or Hardware shops- Its used to clean Glass and Optical shops also can sell you a bottle. regards
	() Thanks

17th June 2006, 17:23	#8
vahss_11 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Thane(Mumbai) Posts: 118 Thanked: 8 Times	you can go to TATA service center.. they will do the job better then Fiat itself...
	() Thanks

17th June 2006, 17:40	#9
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 5,135 Thanked: 2,280 Times View My Garage	Something quite the opposite happened with our Fiat Siena TD60 Diesel. We went to our regular HP petrolpump and he guy mistook our Diesel Siena for a Petrol one (the car was incredibly refined for a petrolpump fellow to think it was a petrol) and he filled up around 5 lts of Petrol when our driver noticed it and brought it to their attention. So they spent the next couple of hours cleaning the tank and they filled it up with diesel for free.(sadly the fuel prices were not as high as they are now otherwise we would have saved thousands.)
	() Thanks

17th June 2006, 18:24	#11
Neel BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 171 Thanked: 27 Times	Yes, Diesel in petrol cars may cause less damage when compared to Pertol in diesel cars.
	() Thanks

18th June 2006, 10:32	#13
pramodkumar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Gods own country Posts: 2,271 Thanked: 1,853 Times View My Garage	[quote=Neel]Talked to Manipal motors : They first made me wait. Then they said that the helpline would not be able to help as they were busy till evening. They also said that they only do minor repairs and service for fiat and fiat owners typically need atleast 15 days advance booking. NEVER EXPECTED THIS AS AN ANSWER!! Hey Neel i think you have never heared of the varunroy story. he braught a sumo from manipal motors and got a similar kind of responce from there when he had a problem, I was under the impression that things will improve for fiat as tata is doing marketing and after sales for fiat in india but things are going verymuch the same way. I dont know how can some service station make such a bold and ignorant statement that if we have a problem with our car we need to book 15 days in advance for a checkup. Are these people running a service station or a multi speciality Hospital.
	() Thanks

18th June 2006, 23:38	#14
autozealot BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 204 Thanked: 4 Times	[quote=pramodkumar Are these people running a service station or a multi speciality Hospital.[/quote] Or are they just potraying how busy they are I remember waiting at a FIAT dealership at Lower Parel just to get my front door speaker replaced which was under warranty from the company itself. What should have taken not more than 30 mins, they made me wait for two and a half hours. This was in 2001 when I used to have a Uno 1.2 ELX. Cheers! (to the FIAT guys.........hahaha) az
	() Thanks

19th June 2006, 00:29	#15
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,401 Thanked: 18,002 Times View My Garage	Don't worry, diesel in petrol is okay, just drain and fill petrol.
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