All About Suspension

Rehaan · 29th June 2004, 12:49

Hey Guys,

I have to admit that the area i know the least about in the technical workings of a car is the suspension. Or more accurately i dont know which is called what and therefore am unaware as to which type of suspension offers what advantages.

So if anyone who is well read on the subject can give a us a concise intro to suspension with the above details and maybe simple pics it would be much appreciated.

cheers
R

ps - are there any cars which have macpherson struts which are NOT of monocoque construction??

Rtech · 29th June 2004, 13:09

Hey rehaan...I really doubt there is a concise way to sum up all the different types of suspension available.

regarding you question on which non monocoque car has struts...well, thats a nice bit of trivia....am looking for the answer now!

Rtech

GTO · 29th June 2004, 13:19

Rehaan,

Heres a very simple but awesome link to start off. Just scroll down to the suspensions section. Autozine Tech - Suspensions

GTO

Shan2nu · 29th June 2004, 13:27

Well, yeah that's another black art which very few in the world are good at.

Here's a site i found on suspensions, it should xplain most of the things.

http://www.chris-longhurst.com/carbi...ion_bible.html

Regards...
Shan2nu

Rehaan · 29th June 2004, 13:33

Thanks guys,

that was prompt!
I have both those links

stupid me!

waiting for ur reply rtech.
cya
R

Rehaan · 29th June 2004, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (rtech @ June 29 2004,11:39)]which non monocoque car has struts...

How about a dune buggy or somethiing with a tubular chassis?

Maybe something like the Honda `Attack' Accord ....provided those are macstruts?

and provided a tubular chassis isnt truly a monocoque (although works the same way....)

R

ps - but still...these are half-way-there answers ...waiting for a real one.

fabiarider · 29th April 2009, 15:27

Hi friends.

Recently few of my friends have been mentioning that their cars suspension is superior due to so and so reason. I just want to know if this is infact true ?
I am summing up the discussion

Suspension of following cars seems like a class apart (from that of similar segment cars)
Hyundai Accent
Mahindra Logan
Optra Magnum LT
These car have gas filled shock absorbers while the rest of the pack (Fabia, Octavia, Suzuki series etc) have gas filled shocks. Due to this reason traveling in these cars on potholed roads is a different experience altogether. Which one is the most comfortable suspension system for indian conditions ? Some Luxury cars do have active suspensions, there is also talk suspensions made by BOSE corp, but these are a different category as such.

mithun · 29th April 2009, 16:44

Some cars are having soft suspensions like Verna, Getz, Optra Magnum. But that doesn't meant that the gas filled shock absorbers will absorb each & every potholes of our country. Also there are lots of folks who are having great affinity for soft suspension cars(Me included !).

And, travelling on soft suspension cars on potholed roads is a different experience altogether, That's right.

iceman91 · 29th April 2009, 16:48

Whats the difference in gas filled shocks and gas filled shock absorbers????

narayan · 29th April 2009, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by iceman91

Whats the difference in gas filled shocks and gas filled shock absorbers????

the second one is better.
the first one gives you the shocks, the second one absorbs them - this is just a wild guess

iceman91 · 29th April 2009, 16:54

oh ok I get it. I want shock absorbers in my car now

Does Eibach make them??

alexnazim · 29th April 2009, 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by fabiarider

Hi friends.

Recently few of my friends have been mentioning that their cars suspension is superior due to so and so reason. I just want to know if this is infact true ?
I am summing up the discussion

Suspension of following cars seems like a class apart (from that of similar segment cars)
Hyundai Accent
Mahindra Logan
Optra Magnum LT
These car have gas filled shock absorbers while the rest of the pack (Fabia, Octavia, Suzuki series etc) have gas filled shocks. Due to this reason traveling in these cars on potholed roads is a different experience altogether. Which one is the most comfortable suspension system for indian conditions ? Some Luxury cars do have active suspensions, there is also talk suspensions made by BOSE corp, but these are a different category as such.

Do you mean to say:

Hyundai Accent
Mahindra Logan
Optra Magnum LT

Do NOT have gas filled shocks? While the rest like Skoda, Verna types do have it? Yes, that is true. The experience is different altogether.

Yes and All Suzuki cars don't have gas filled shocks as far as I know. They should fall under the Hyundai Accent,Mahindra Logan & Optra Magnum LT catagory.

But if you take a simple example and compare a Verna with an Accent there is a difference in the segements and the price tags so that where the comfort improves.

predatorwheelz · 29th April 2009, 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by fabiarider

Hi friends.

Recently few of my friends have been mentioning that their cars suspension is superior due to so and so reason. I just want to know if this is infact true ?
I am summing up the discussion

Suspension of following cars seems like a class apart (from that of similar segment cars)
Hyundai Accent
Mahindra Logan
Optra Magnum LT
These car have gas filled shock absorbers while the rest of the pack (Fabia, Octavia, Suzuki series etc) have gas filled shocks. Due to this reason traveling in these cars on potholed roads is a different experience altogether. Which one is the most comfortable suspension system for indian conditions ? Some Luxury cars do have active suspensions, there is also talk suspensions made by BOSE corp, but these are a different category as such.

Get your query right first. There's no difference between gas filled shocks and gas filled shock absorbers. In fact, "shocks" are a short name for Shock absorbers.

Do you actually want to know about types of suspensions? Or maybe the working of gas filled shocks? Or maybe what components make a car's suspension superior?

Quote:

Originally Posted by narayan

the second one is better.
the first one gives you the shocks, the second one absorbs them - this is just a wild guess

Hehe, good one. Or it could be that the first one is what your stomach gets after a heavy meal, and the second is an antacid!

iceman91 · 29th April 2009, 17:11

Also what do you exactly want to know??
Comparision of suspension on different cars is like comparing the cars itself.
Why the car has that suspension is a very subjective question.
It is like why the accent comes with that engine while the baleno comes with the other and so on and so forth

jreddy420 · 29th April 2009, 17:39

I had this question for a long time. Is it possible to use accent's shocks in another car? Will it improve the pothole eating ability of the car? say for example, can I put a accent's shocks in a maruti 800? Will it improve passenger comfort?

I am an extreme noob, so please bear with me

29th June 2004, 12:49	#1
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,198 Thanked: 36,140 Times	All About Suspension Hey Guys, I have to admit that the area i know the least about in the technical workings of a car is the suspension. Or more accurately i dont know which is called what and therefore am unaware as to which type of suspension offers what advantages. So if anyone who is well read on the subject can give a us a concise intro to suspension with the above details and maybe simple pics it would be much appreciated. cheers R ps - are there any cars which have macpherson struts which are NOT of monocoque construction??
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29th June 2004, 13:09	#2
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,765 Thanked: 371 Times View My Garage	Hey rehaan...I really doubt there is a concise way to sum up all the different types of suspension available. regarding you question on which non monocoque car has struts...well, thats a nice bit of trivia....am looking for the answer now! Rtech
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29th June 2004, 13:19	#3
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,824 Thanked: 322,761 Times View My Garage	Rehaan, Heres a very simple but awesome link to start off. Just scroll down to the suspensions section. Autozine Tech - Suspensions GTO
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29th June 2004, 13:27	#4
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 127 Times View My Garage	Well, yeah that's another black art which very few in the world are good at. Here's a site i found on suspensions, it should xplain most of the things. http://www.chris-longhurst.com/carbi...ion_bible.html Regards... Shan2nu
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29th June 2004, 13:33	#5
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,198 Thanked: 36,140 Times	Thanks guys, that was prompt! I have both those links stupid me! waiting for ur reply rtech. cya R
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29th April 2009, 15:27	#7
fabiarider BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: trivandrum Posts: 53 Thanked: 0 Times	Car Suspension - which is better Hi friends. Recently few of my friends have been mentioning that their cars suspension is superior due to so and so reason. I just want to know if this is infact true ? I am summing up the discussion Suspension of following cars seems like a class apart (from that of similar segment cars) Hyundai Accent Mahindra Logan Optra Magnum LT These car have gas filled shock absorbers while the rest of the pack (Fabia, Octavia, Suzuki series etc) have gas filled shocks. Due to this reason traveling in these cars on potholed roads is a different experience altogether. Which one is the most comfortable suspension system for indian conditions ? Some Luxury cars do have active suspensions, there is also talk suspensions made by BOSE corp, but these are a different category as such.
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29th April 2009, 16:44	#8
mithun BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 2,195 Thanked: 268 Times	Some cars are having soft suspensions like Verna, Getz, Optra Magnum. But that doesn't meant that the gas filled shock absorbers will absorb each & every potholes of our country. Also there are lots of folks who are having great affinity for soft suspension cars(Me included !). And, travelling on soft suspension cars on potholed roads is a different experience altogether, That's right.
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29th April 2009, 16:48	#9
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	Whats the difference in gas filled shocks and gas filled shock absorbers????
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29th April 2009, 16:54	#11
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	oh ok I get it. I want shock absorbers in my car now Does Eibach make them??
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29th April 2009, 17:11	#14
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	Also what do you exactly want to know?? Comparision of suspension on different cars is like comparing the cars itself. Why the car has that suspension is a very subjective question. It is like why the accent comes with that engine while the baleno comes with the other and so on and so forth
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29th April 2009, 17:39	#15
jreddy420 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 21 Thanked: 3 Times	I had this question for a long time. Is it possible to use accent's shocks in another car? Will it improve the pothole eating ability of the car? say for example, can I put a accent's shocks in a maruti 800? Will it improve passenger comfort? I am an extreme noob, so please bear with me
	() Thanks