[Sumedik]

What is the verdict on Maruti AMT on newer models in 2023? Do the woes continue or are things better in terms of performance and reliability?

On a different note: which company's AMT is most reliable and performs the best in India?

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by Sumedik

What is the verdict on Maruti AMT on newer models in 2023? Do the woes continue or are things better in terms of performance and reliability?

On a different note: which company's AMT is most reliable and performs the best in India?

I think the activity on this thread itself speaks of the reliability of Maruti AMT. Off late there is hardly any activity. And apart from the random clutch juddering issues, there aren't any failures reported majorly even though the sales volumes are so high. My own car has neared 70k in all sorts of abuse conditions and the AMT is holding up as it was on day one. Even the juddering issue has not resurfaced in recent times.

[jassi_jeeper]

Just a little update from my end. My Alto K10 AMT is now 8 years old. 85,000 KM done. 50 % city driving, 30 % highways and 20 % hills. No problem with the AMT thus far. For the last 3 years it is 90 % driven by my wife. She is a very safe buy not exactly an inborn driver.
I guess the key is not trying the fly with supersonic speed from standstill. Being a relaxed driver does seem to help the AMT box.

[hisham2k9]

Originally Posted by audioholic

If your AMT is running fine, please post that too since it will be confidence inspiring to know that not all cars will have trouble. Hence, please come together and post whether there is a problem or not. Most of the times it is only people with issues who come and post their experience and the ones who dont just enjoy their vehicles. Let it not be that way.

Here is my 2 cents: I drive a Kwid 1.0 2017 AMT. In the past 6 years, the kwid gave me problem only once. At around 55k kms Odo, It would just fail to engage any gear during the drive and the engine warning light with be lit. But once you turn off the car completely for 5 mins or so and turn it back on, the car behaves like normal and there is no engine warning light anymore and the car simply starts functioning again. The second time it happened, I took it to service center and they duly replaced a part what they called as "actuator". It was covered under warranty and priced over 18k. There was no hesitation at all on their side. The part was not available immediately and therefore had to wait for a week or so to get it replaced.

My car is at 71k kms right now, no problems since. In fact, I am not sure if I have learned to modulate the accelarator pedal or that the amt seems to have bettered itself over the years or that the amt learned the way I drive or perhaps it is a mix of all these, the car drives much better now and the shifts are only getting better each passing km. By better I mean, the shifts has gotten smoother, but it does seldom change its gear in an unexpected way.

[th2]

Got the clutch replaced on my 2017 Ignis AMT at around 55k due to excessive juddering. Running fine now. The judder had started at around 25k and gotten progressively worse with usage.

[sgm]

Originally Posted by audioholic

I had changed the clutch latest at 97xx kms on my Celerio.

That said, the car is back to its excellent smoothness wrt clutch.

Our 2014 Celerio AMT has done 42k KM and there is lot of judder when moving after a stop or near halt. The problem is heightened with more load or AC.
Should I be getting the clutch changed?

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by sgm

Our 2014 Celerio AMT has done 42k KM and there is lot of judder when moving after a stop or near halt. The problem is heightened with more load or AC.
Should I be getting the clutch changed?

Yes it's typically due to uneven wear of the clutch disc. Change the clutch kit and also the AMT fluid.

[Night_Fury]

I got myself a used Celerio AMT 2014 model. The AMT unit was replaced in 2019 as a "goodwill gesture" apparently. A slight juddering issue was present, but we went ahead with the purchase as the car had only run 27k and is mint otherwise. The SA advised to change the clutch. Hoping that will solve it.

[kushagra452]

I am driving a Feb 2020 Swift AMT. The car has done 53000 kms. The car has performed as expected. All periodic services have been done at a MASS. However, of late I have started noticing that at times it takes the car 3-4 secs to engage the first gear. This happens around 60% of the time. The remainder of the time the first gear gets engaged as expected (almost immediately). The gear oil and engine oil have been changed in the last service (about 7 months back and 46000 kms)There is no problem in the subsequent gear changes as the car accelerates.

I have the following questions:

1. What are the likely reasons for this?
2. Should I get the car checked at the service center?
3. Is this problem related to the change in ambient/outside temperature?

Thanks.

[kushagra452]

Originally Posted by kushagra452

I am driving a Feb 2020 Swift AMT. The car has done 53000 kms....

Yesterday the check engine light and the transaxle light lit up while driving back from work. Went straight to the MASS centre and to get the error code checked. The TCM error code of P1908 was displayed by the diagnostic tool.

Advised by the MASS SA to visit the dealership workshop. Will be visiting the service centre tomorrow morning.

What could be the potential reasons for the P1908 error code?
What is the most likely fix for this problem?

Thanks!

[kushagra452]

Originally Posted by kushagra452

Advised by the MASS SA to visit the dealership workshop. Will be visiting the service centre tomorrow morning.

Thanks!

Handed over the car at the dealership workshop (Rana Motors, Jahangirpuri). Getting the clutch plate+flywheel+other parts changed. Workshop estimate Rs.11500 + GST. Paid Rs.2250 + GST for running the diagnostic tool.

The pics shared by the workshop GM are below.

Can the learned Team BHPians chime in with their comments regarding the wear and tear visible in the pics below? Car odo is 53000 kms (100% city driving Delhi NCR).

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by kushagra452

Handed over the car at the dealership workshop (Rana Motors, Jahangirpuri). Getting the clutch plate+flywheel+other parts changed. Workshop estimate Rs.11500 + GST. Paid Rs.2250 + GST for running the diagnostic tool.

The pics shared by the workshop GM are below.

Can the learned Team BHPians chime in with their comments regarding the wear and tear visible in the pics below? Car odo is 53000 kms (100% city driving Delhi NCR).

There is no picture of the clutch plate. The flywheel and outside view of the clutch assembly is present. Cannot say much from the pics on the life of the clutch plate.

The Rs.2250 for running the diagonistic tool is ripoff IMO.

[kushagra452]

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

There is no picture of the clutch plate.
The Rs.2250 for running the diagonistic tool is ripoff IMO.

Please find below the pic of the parts that have been changed.

Total bill (including GST) Rs.17348. Rs2250+GST was charged for running the diagnostic tool (for the DTC code).

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by kushagra452

Please find below the pic of the parts that have been changed.

Total bill (including GST) Rs.17348. Rs2250+GST was charged for running the diagnostic tool (for the DTC code).

Sorry, but the clutch plate picture is not clear to make an analysis of the life left on the plate. If you have the clutch plate, check the grooves that radiate from the center to outwards. These grooves are present for cooling and act as impeller to channel air in and out of the clutch assembly. If the grooves are not visible or look shallow, the plate is worn down. Anyway, 53,000 kms on stock clutch plate in an AMT is very good life, considering the fact that the AMT slips the clutch more than a manual transmission.

Is the problem resolved after changing the clutch plate?

[kushagra452]

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

Is the problem resolved after changing the clutch plate?

Yes the problem has been resolved. Gear shifts have become very smooth now. There is no noise while engaging the reverse gear either. Hope this new clutch set also lasts for 50k+ kms. Thanks for your input.