[ShubhamGhute]

Originally Posted by Sankar

Try the ceratec. Its one of the very few oil additives which all enthusiasts seems to agree on that it works! I have used it in the old Octavia vRS and the engine was silent and smooth after that. I used the same in my Crysta after i took delivery. Will be using it again for the next oil change at 35000kms.

Hello sir,
I too own a Innova crysta 2.8 Z. I am planning to use liqui molly ceratec friction modifier in my crysta. I would like to have your comments on ceratec.

• What are your observation
• What about mileage? Has it increased?
• Has the engine noise reduced?
• How often should the ceratec be added?

[vsaravind007]

[Update]

Hello BHPians!

This is an update on the oil change after about 7000KMs. I didn't use CeraTec on top of it even though I was planning on adding it. I wanted to have enough time to know the effects of TopTec on the car. Though the effects were apparent just after the oil change, I wanted to make sure that it wasn't just placebo Also, it takes a bit of time to know the real benefits/nature of the oil after a complete flush.

Car is noticeably quieter, revvs better and a lot of vibrations are gone. Any Laura owner(with a TDi PD Engine) can relate to the subtle vibrations at load conditions in the 1.5k -2k RPM range, these are now gone or hardly detectable. Click-clanks at idle are also quieter - can hardly hear the running engine if somebody is standing at the rear of the car.

I'm pretty happy about the end results. Will be adding CeraTec soon(it is on its way to me as I write this). It'll be interesting to see what CeraTec can do on an already quieter car! Will post an elaborate review on CeraTec because there are a lot of mixed thoughts about the product!

Originally Posted by abhijeetveer

Hi,

I just came across this thread. I have used ceratec along with liquimoly synthoil 0w40 after using oil flush and my observations were positive so far. I have been using shell helix ultra 10w40 in my skoda Laura previously but during the last service decided to try liquimoly after reading the reviews on amazon. I have definitely noticed smoother and quite engine after about 100 to 200 kms of running. There is no noticeable difference in average, it's been the same. I get roughly 14 in mixed Mumbai driving. It's been around 3k kms since I've been using it. After reading the thread I believe the top tech liquimoly is the better one. Pls correct me if im wrong. Will try that on my other car next time along with ceratec/molygen

Originally Posted by saurabhkum

I'm little confused on the product line of Liqui moly. There is 5w-40 Tot Tech which is priced at approx 1000 Rs Per Lt. Then we also have 5W-40 Molygen at around 825 Rs Per Lt & Synthoil 0W-30 which is priced at 1400 odd per Lt but gets available as deal price of 900+ Rs per lt. And lastly we have Leichtlauf HC & 5W-40 which is priced at 1250 Per Lt but is available at 960 Rs per Lt under discount. People suggest Top Tech as the best but why? Also Top Tech is mentioned as better for CNG/LPG.
Similar is the case with Liqui Moly Cera Tech friction modifier which is priced as 2250 for 300 Ml and Liqui Moly Molygen Motor Protect which is priced at 3300 Rs for 500 Ml. Can experts comment.

Hi abhijeetveer & saurabhkum, I've contacted Mr.Khais of Land Rover Labs(From where I bought the oil, they're an exclusive dealer for LiquiMoly & the guy knows what he is doing) and asked about your queries, this was the response I got:

TopTec 4100 is approved by VW AG, that complies with their oil spec VW 505.01 and it's low sub ash engine oil. On the other hand, Molygen is not an OE recommend oil because it comes with performance enhancer tungsten & other additives added to it. Because of that, it doesn't have any OEM approval. Molygen is a good overall oil and it's strictly aimed at performance. Molygen will help in lowering the sounds from engine.

Both Ceratec and Molygen Motor Protect are long time additives. But both of them work in different ways. Company claims that they will work for up to 50K. CeraTec contains micro ceramic compounds. Once its added to the motor oil and the oil reaches the operating temperature, it will stick to metal parts, giving a strong lubricant film that will help overcome the friction forces. This is used in airspace applications to offer longer oil change intervals.

Molygen Motor Protect comes with the same additive as Molygen Oil, Tungsten. It's relatively new, But it can't reach the performance benefits we are getting from CeraTec.

Originally Posted by vignesh.cv

For cars from the VW group, please stick to what the manual says in terms of VW oil spec. Going by that the Molygen is VW 505.00 and TopTec is VW 505.01 & VW 505.00.

Yes! VW AG Cars are extremely sensitive to oil specifications. I have heard horror stories about using wrong oil specs! This is specifically why I went for TopTec 4100 which is of VW Oil Spec rated for TDi PD, VW 505.01.

Originally Posted by saurabhkum

How is the oil holding up? Recently I bought it for my Jetta. Yet to get the oil change done. Will share my feedback after few days of running.

Its holding up pretty good, hope you've read above!

Looking forward to try CeraTec! See you guys soon!

[avinash_m]

Originally Posted by vsaravind007

Looking forward to try CeraTec! See you guys soon!

Thanks for the oil review @aravind . So, do you mean you'd go for an oil change again here, to be able to add the Ceratec or would you be adding it to the current oil (mid cycle)?! Sorry, it the query sounds noob but I've been researching on Ceratec and everywhere people seem to suggest, to add it with the new oil for best results. I really want to try this product but preferably without the knowledge of my A.S.S as they'll definitely cry regarding warranty getting void etc. The car in question here is a Storme 400.

[vsaravind007]

Originally Posted by avinash_m

Thanks for the oil review @aravind . So, do you mean you'd go for an oil change again here, to be able to add the Ceratec or would you be adding it to the current oil (mid cycle)?! Sorry, it the query sounds noob but I've been researching on Ceratec and everywhere people seem to suggest, to add it with the new oil for best results. I really want to try this product but preferably without the knowledge of my A.S.S as they'll definitely cry regarding warranty getting void etc. The car in question here is a Storme 400.

Hi avinash_m, I'll be adding it the existing oil, not at all going to change the newly changed oil, it has a very long way to go! By the way, you can add it safely. CeraTec is a cream colored liquid - it could alter the color of the oil(Yet to find out about it). But I seriously doubt that chance because when it is time to change the oil, it'll go black. Good luck!

[avinash_m]

I'll be adding it the existing oil, not at all going to change the newly changed oil, it has a very long way to go!

Thanks Aravind!

I guess I'll get the oil changed anyway and wait for 2-3k kms for the oil level to come down, before moving to add the Ceratec. Don't want to risk overfill.

[J.r]

Originally Posted by avinash_m

Thanks Aravind!

I guess I'll get the oil changed anyway and wait for 2-3k kms for the oil level to come down, before moving to add the Ceratec. Don't want to risk overfill.

Hi Aravind, I am using a Fiat punto evo diesel 75hp and planning to change engine oil to Liqui Moly. Since many 5w40 variants are available such as Leichtlauf, Top Tech, Molygen..which one to use? Also would you please share Mr. Khais contact number , since I can't find any dealers in TVM. Thank you

[convivial]

Wanted to revive this thread ever since I saw CeraTec do wonders. First on a 90+K run Vento and after a few hundred kilometers with it, the change was remarkable and hard to ignore even for the uninitiated. I then changed it on my 1.57L run TDi Jetta and boy, 100 kms gone already and its like a new life! How it holds up; will let you all know. FYI - I used it on VW spec engine oil at the service center and after a LiquiMoly engine flush in both cases.

But lovely, to say the least, so far!

I have a Creta CRDi AT - has anyone done this on it? If it can be, then I will have to wait for another 20K to get it to a 40-50 and then do. I don't know how co-operative Hyundai would be within the extended warranty period.

[kapilsharma80]

Originally Posted by J.r

Hi Aravind, I am using a Fiat punto evo diesel 75hp and planning to change engine oil to Liqui Moly. Since many 5w40 variants are available such as Leichtlauf, Top Tech, Molygen..which one to use? Also would you please share Mr. Khais contact number , since I can't find any dealers in TVM. Thank you

Hi, I have been using Molygen 5-40 in my Punto multijet for last couple of months. Initially I felt a drop in pick up but after a week' drive the pick was back to normal. The engine noise has come down considerably. Would advice you to go ahead with LM Molygen. My car has done 1,09,000 kms. Till 1.8 lkah km it was run on OEM Petronas Oil which was also good.

[J.r]

Originally Posted by kapilsharma80

Hi, I have been using Molygen 5-40 in my Punto multijet for last couple of months. Initially I felt a drop in pick up but after a week' drive the pick was back to normal. The engine noise has come down considerably. Would advice you to go ahead with LM Molygen. My car has done 1,09,000 kms. Till 1.8 lkah km it was run on OEM Petronas Oil which was also good.

Thankyou, I did change to molygen a week back..I feel the car is a bit more effortless now to accelerate!

[Turbospool83]

Hello Fellas ,

I changed the oil to Liquy Moly TopTec at 65000Km on Rapid TDI. The difference was immensely noticeable. The noise was noticeable reduced and revving quickly. Now stands at 80000KM again replaced with Toptec.
But there is only a marginal difference. Not sure why. I have topped with Ceratec now. Just 100+KM after pouring in. Waiting to see if any improvements as many exeperenceid here.

[JojyKerala]

Originally Posted by vsaravind007

Meanwhile I found out about RVS Motors, which is an independent Skoda specialist near Trivandrum International Airport. A short talk with the guys there confirmed that they're good with Skoda cars.

OFF TOPIC - Was searching for an FNG to service my Rapid and chanced upon this thread. I'm going to take my Rapid to RVS soon. Also, are there any other Skoda specialists that you are aware of in Trivandrum?

[vsaravind007]

Update
I've been on TopTec+CeraTec combination for the last few years, however on the last oil change, I couldn't use CeraTec because it wasn't available, waited a few weeks also. But in the end decided to just use TopTec. Very subtle vibrations are back, if you look for it, you'll get it! Also, while passing through narrow lanes with walls on either side, engine sounds a bit noisy,

Originally Posted by JojyKerala

OFF TOPIC - Was searching for an FNG to service my Rapid and chanced upon this thread. I'm going to take my Rapid to RVS soon. Also, are there any other Skoda specialists that you are aware of in Trivandrum?

Hi JojyKerala, there are few ones specialising in German brands, but I wouldn't recommend, I've had very good experience so far with RVS MotoHub, do check them out.

[rajivelall@gmai]

First, a little background. In the 1970s my father bought me my first motorbike, a Bullet. For the time, it was a good bike. Its main drawback was the EXTREMELY clunky gearshifter.
Around 1973 a new product arrived on the market. It was called MOLYSLIP, it was imported, and it was expensive.
The Bullet gearbox used to be packed with grease, so another bike freak and myself took out some of that and poured in about 200 ml of Molyslip, after which we promptly drove the bike from Poona to Bombay and back.
The gears shifted like liquid. We were amazed.
For the next 20 years that I had the bike, I religiously put Molyslip in the gearbox and it ran like butter on steroids.
I now own a Tata Nano (70,000) km, A Dominar 400 and an Avenger, both new with under 1500 km on the clocks.
I recently added Liqui Moly to the oil and petrol of the Nano.The engine had been running slightly rough even after a change of ignition cables and plugs. After the additives, the engine hums like a sewing machine.
I added The Liqui Moly oil additive to both the Dominar and the Avenger engine oils. In both vehicles vibrations diminished significantly. ( About 80% in the Dominar. In the Avenger it is now difficult to tell that the engine is on, except by the exhaust note.
I see a lot of conflicting reviews about MoS2 on the net, so I would appreciate views from members who have used this product and their experiences with it.