[jozefjon]

Originally Posted by Ketav

Hi All

My car is back after the transmission repair.
Drives smooth so far.

I drove it from Sehmbi Bangalore Workshop to Home (45 min drive).

Will drive the car for a few days and then post my review.

Cheers
KK

Waiting for your review and more details about the reason for failure of CVT provided by workshop, if any. Any suggestions to avoid such failure in future.

[Akhileshmdp]

Originally Posted by Ketav

Hi All

My car is back after the transmission repair.
Drives smooth so far.

I drove it from Sehmbi Bangalore Workshop to Home (45 min drive).

Will drive the car for a few days and then post my review.

Cheers
KK

Eagerly waiting for your review buddy on what was the issue and the current status post resolution.

[Ketav]

Hi All

Two three days after I received the repaired car from Sehmbi, I noticed oil leaking from the gearbox.

Sent the car again to Sehmbi to plug the leak.

I received the car on the 6th of April. I have driven it for two weeks without any issues.

Overall I am happy with their service. Cleaning the car after repair and before delivery needs to be improved by Sehmbi.

Harjeet, the owner of Sehmbi is a very pleasant person to deal with.

Conclusion: It took over two months to get the gearbox repaired (including the second visit to the Sehmbi Garage to fix the oil leak). The repair cost was 1L compared to 4 Lakh plus quoted by Whitefield Honda to replace the gearbox.

[InControl]

Originally Posted by Ketav

Conclusion: It took over two months to get the gearbox repaired (including the second visit to the Sehmbi Garage to fix the oil leak). The repair cost was 1L compared to 4 Lakh plus quoted by Whitefield Honda to replace the gearbox.

Thank you for sharing the expenses incurred with us. Did the garage tell you the reason behind the failure? Also, if you can share with us the parts cost breakup.

[Ketav]

Hi InControl

I did not ask.

I did not have the time to supervise the repair job over several weeks.

You have to trust the owner/garage.

They do give you a six-month warranty on the repair job.

- Ketav

[vigsom]

Originally Posted by Ketav

Honda City 1.5 VX CVT 2016
Driven 56,500 kms

engine was running, but the car was not moving ahead.Tried shifting the gears to R (reverse) and S (Sport), but the car did not move.Was informed by Whitefield Honda that CVT replacement would cost approximately Rs. 4 Lakh

Originally Posted by GTO

All AT owners should be super careful with the fluid changes. CVTs, especially, need timely changes

Adding one more case to what @Ketav has reported. Although in this case the vehicle behaved absolutely normal, the observations are startling. The vehicle had gone in for a 1,00,000km service. Odo was a shade below 99,000km and the vehicle was serviced regularly at the same Honda authorised workshop all through. When an attempt was made to drain the CVT fluid for replacement, this is what was observed.









Actions taken : Sump was opened, all metal filings removed, fresh CVT fluid filled, again drained (no filings), and fresh CVT fluid filled again. The car is running absolutely normal, but it is like a time bomb ticking.




To me, this looks like a part of the CVT belt has sheared off; possibly the portion just adjoining the pulleys. I would associate this partial failure more with hard driving. Am also attaching a related video which might explain this partial failure.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bTkN3drRWZI?feature=share

Moral of the story: Be even more careful with CVTs over TC ATs; CVTs need to be treated with kid gloves.

[amalji]

Originally Posted by vigsom

Moral of the story: Be even more careful with CVTs over TC ATs; CVTs need to be treated with kid gloves.

This is from one of top two reliable CVT manufacturers in the world! I guess by design, CVTs are vulnerable because regardless of the gear the vehicle is running in, the same part goes through the abuse repeatedly. Maybe, this is the reason why modern Toyota CVTs has the first gear as a normal gear and the rest as a CVT.

I hope this problem shouldn't impact eCVTs used in Toyota hybrids because there is no belt and pulley mechanism there.

[Ketav]

Hi All,
It has been over six months since the gearbox repair job by Sehmbi. The car is working fine. Harjeet has been very professional to deal with.
My experience has been good.

[Durango Dude]

Originally Posted by Ketav

Hi All,
It has been over six months since the gearbox repair job by Sehmbi. The car is working fine. Harjeet has been very professional to deal with.
My experience has been good.

Good to hear: if it's not a problem, what were the "damages"?

I have a Honda City CVT 2017 (39k kms) and haven't taken the 10 year warranty package, would it be worthwhile? Is CVT failure covered in this package? I've a very good comprehensive insurance package from Tata AI. Will the insurance be able to offset going in for a 10 year warranty package?

Many thanks for sharing, Ketav! Wishing your City runs trouble free for many more years

[amalji]

Originally Posted by Durango Dude

I have a Honda City CVT 2017 (39k kms) and haven't taken the 10 year warranty package, would it be worthwhile? Is CVT failure covered in this package?

Wow! Impressed to know that Honda provides an option to extend the warranty for 10 years! How much does it cost?

Context: we are evaluating the Honda Elevate as a potential second car.

[cherub]

Originally Posted by amalji

Wow! Impressed to know that Honda provides an option to extend the warranty for 10 years! How much does it cost?

Context: we are evaluating the Honda Elevate as a potential second car.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...-2nd-gear.html (5th-gen Honda City giving jerks @ 2000 rpm in the 2nd gear)

Here is another example where Honda refuses to consider quality/performance issues as defects. You can try contacting Honda customer care directly, but they will just send you back to the dealer. You just have to live with these defects until the part fails completely and the vehicle is stalled somewhere.

[gus]

Hi Guys,
I am getting nightmares reading this thread. I own a 5th gen honda city cvt and its been 3 years now. The run on my honda city has been just 12,500 Kms in 3 years.

On my 3rd year service the advisor was insisting on replacing the HCf oil (which I reckon is the transmission fluid). I declined since as per the schedule on Honda website it should be done at 20k/2nd year, 40k/4th year, and so on.
However the advisor did not recommend the same on the second year of service since at that time the run was just 8900 Kms (Also I wasnt aware of the same at that time)

Now going through this thread I am not sure if I made the right decision declining the transmission oil change in this service.

Now on everytime I will take my car out for a ride, I will be haunted by this thread.��

[sreerknair]

Originally Posted by gus

On my 3rd year service the advisor was insisting on replacing the HCf oil (which I reckon is the transmission fluid). I declined since as per the schedule on Honda website it should be done at 20k/2nd year, 40k/4th year, and so on.

If you haven't changed the oil at 2 year period, please change it immediately. You are risking the transmission for some 3K Rs/- and if anything happens to the Transmission then Honda won't honor the warranty as well in this case.

[tj123]

Originally Posted by vigsom

To me, this looks like a part of the CVT belt has sheared off; possibly the portion just adjoining the pulleys. I would associate this partial failure more with hard driving. Am also attaching a related video which might explain this partial failure.

Better to replace the CVT belt right away as it will fail eventually, or sell the car. Just changing the fluids will not help much. No matter who has designed the CVT transmission, the belts are the load bearing moving part which is always susceptible to a failure.
I have always considered torque convertors are the most reliable and time tested transmission, though people think its old school

[SoumenD]

Originally Posted by gus

On my 3rd year service the advisor was insisting on replacing the HCf oil (which I reckon is the transmission fluid). I declined since as per the schedule on Honda website it should be done at 20k/2nd year, 40k/4th year, and so on.
However the advisor did not recommend the same on the second year of service since at that time the run was just 8900 Kms (Also I wasnt aware of the same at that time)

Change the transmission oil immediately. Irrespective of how many kms you have raked, its advisable to get the transmission oil changed every 2 years as recommended in service booklet. Even mine(Jazz CVT) wasn't changed at 4th year service by SA as my running is low(22.5kms in 4.5 years) but I got it explicitly done during my 4.5 year service last month.

I buy extended warranty and service as per official schedule(i.e. 6 months) to keep warranty intact because of threads like these. CVT transmission if breaks, its an expensive affair to fix.