palio D starting problem

garychopper · 18th August 2007, 19:02

i have a 4.5 month fiat palio diesel which has done around 5k kms.
since the last 2-3 days, i came across a particular starting issue.
it started when i tried to start the car one day and it didnt start, i tried the second time and it started normally.
then again the other day when i turned the ignition the heating coil light started to flicker, i closed and restarted without any problem.
also twice it happened that when i started the car it shut down after 3-4 seconds.
this behavious happens quite erratically and i have no clue about the reason. otherwise it runs fine.

anyone has any clue???

thanks in advance.

veyron1 · 18th August 2007, 22:19

ECM issue. Happens when one of the sensors are off. I know of a Palio D which had the same problem; it's throttle sensor & FIP had issues.

In your case, it could also be the collision sensor in the passenger footwell.

Check it out via a scanner. That's the only way to troubleshoot a Palio D.

garychopper · 18th August 2007, 22:39

thanks a ton.
will keep that in mind.

rohan_fonseca · 19th August 2007, 06:12

Couldn't it be a starter problem?

garychopper · 19th August 2007, 19:27

got the car onto the analyzer, it showed errors in one of the relays, the dealership didnt had that relay in stock, i need to go to some other dealership to get a replacement.
does this relay problem sound plausible?

veyron1 · 19th August 2007, 20:36

Relay, eh? Any idea which one? Did the mech specify which relay?

garychopper · 19th August 2007, 20:37

the red one-main relay, of 30 amp.

garychopper · 19th August 2007, 20:39

the main relay, of the two, Red and Black one, the culprit is the red one...of 30 amp.

18th August 2007, 19:02	#1
garychopper BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: delhi/milan/brussels Posts: 43 Thanked: Once	palio D starting problem i have a 4.5 month fiat palio diesel which has done around 5k kms. since the last 2-3 days, i came across a particular starting issue. it started when i tried to start the car one day and it didnt start, i tried the second time and it started normally. then again the other day when i turned the ignition the heating coil light started to flicker, i closed and restarted without any problem. also twice it happened that when i started the car it shut down after 3-4 seconds. this behavious happens quite erratically and i have no clue about the reason. otherwise it runs fine. anyone has any clue??? thanks in advance.
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18th August 2007, 22:19	#2
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	ECM issue. Happens when one of the sensors are off. I know of a Palio D which had the same problem; it's throttle sensor & FIP had issues. In your case, it could also be the collision sensor in the passenger footwell. Check it out via a scanner. That's the only way to troubleshoot a Palio D.
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18th August 2007, 22:39	#3
garychopper BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: delhi/milan/brussels Posts: 43 Thanked: Once	thanks a ton. will keep that in mind.
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19th August 2007, 06:12	#4
rohan_fonseca BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Panaji Posts: 984 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	Couldn't it be a starter problem?
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19th August 2007, 19:27	#5
garychopper BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: delhi/milan/brussels Posts: 43 Thanked: Once	got the car onto the analyzer, it showed errors in one of the relays, the dealership didnt had that relay in stock, i need to go to some other dealership to get a replacement. does this relay problem sound plausible?
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19th August 2007, 20:36	#6
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	Relay, eh? Any idea which one? Did the mech specify which relay?
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19th August 2007, 20:37	#7
garychopper BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: delhi/milan/brussels Posts: 43 Thanked: Once	the red one-main relay, of 30 amp.
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19th August 2007, 20:39	#8
garychopper BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: delhi/milan/brussels Posts: 43 Thanked: Once	the main relay, of the two, Red and Black one, the culprit is the red one...of 30 amp.
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