Power steering issue in my Swift VDI

DieselFan · 30th April 2008, 10:39

Folks,

I am facing sudden loss of power in power steering when I am slowing in 4th gear and I press the clutch to down shift. This loss of power though is just for a fraction of a second.

1. Is there a major issue?
2. Have any of you faced similar problems?
3. What is the best way to inform the service adviser of this issue? (I am nearing my 4th service schedule and would like to get this highlighted to the service adviser ).

Your advise is much appreciated.

svsantosh · 30th April 2008, 11:12

oh oh oh... One more "The Reliable" Swift with an issue.

DieselFan, If I am right, all Maruti;s come with EPS and not hydraulic PS. In that case there should be no direct link between the engine;s power and the Steering (as would be the case in the Brake system). This may mean some issue with the EPS system, electricals, electronics, etc etc. Give some more description of your car and its history includings Tyre Mods, rims mods, accidents (if any), rough/good roads usage.

DieselFan · 30th April 2008, 11:19

Yes Swift d comes with a EPS.

No Mods done on the car. The car did have a ECU issue initially which maruti replaced. This was an year back. No accidents. Road usage is on good roads and mostly highways (an FE of >20 kmpl is evidence to this

).

thirst4torque · 30th April 2008, 14:20

At what speed you are facing this issue?
AFAIK the EPS cuts of at a particulat speed ie its not functional at higher speeds.

30th April 2008, 14:26

have not had that happen in any of our EPS cars 3 from maruti, 1 from hyundai.

what happens when you say you lose power steering?
does the steering go completely rigid and become almost impossible to turn, like when you switch off the engine?

DieselFan · 30th April 2008, 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by rippergeo

what happens when you say you lose power steering?
does the steering go completely rigid and become almost impossible to turn, like when you switch off the engine?

Yes the steering goes rigid for a fraction of a second and then I get it back.

kuttapan · 30th April 2008, 14:32

Check the fuse for the EPS. May be faulty.

DieselFan · 3rd June 2008, 10:54

Kuttapan,

Nothing wrong with the fuse. EPS works fine all the while except once in a while it freezes for a fraction of a second. I was not able to simulate the condition to Maruti hence was not corrected during my service. It happens very infrequently (Once in a fortnight. Now even less) and only for a fraction of a second.

tush · 8th June 2008, 23:27

this had happened to me twice while driving but both these times my engine had turned off and this issue had occured... may be because of bad clutch timing by me... So as far as i know if there is some power loss in between to the EPS in the form of your engine shutting down suddenly etc then it happens....

DieselFan · 9th June 2008, 08:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by tush

this had happened to me twice while driving but both these times my engine had turned off and this issue had occured... may be because of bad clutch timing by me... So as far as i know if there is some power loss in between to the EPS in the form of your engine shutting down suddenly etc then it happens....

Yes that is the standard case. In my scenario engine doesn't shut down but the power steering doesn't function for a fraction of a second. Most of the time I faced this issue was when I had depressed the clutch and was about to go to a lower gear.

dadu · 9th June 2008, 09:49

Reset your ECU by disconnecting the battery terminal and if it still doesnt resolve, get it checked by A.S.S

ku69rd · 27th September 2009, 20:48

Diesel Fan,
Were you able to resolve this issue?

DieselFan · 28th September 2009, 10:24

The problem had disappeared after a while. Now I do not face this problem anymore.

kuttapan · 28th September 2009, 16:15

Incidentally, I had seen another guy with this problem, where the power steering went limp intermittently, once when I visited a car wash. Dunno what happened thereafter, but goes to show that it is not a one-off issue.

DieselFan · 29th September 2009, 08:57

Mine was not an On-Off issue, even a noice can make out if it is a On-Off issue as you have to restart the car. Maybe it was ECU reset which did the trick while servicing. I had also insisted on a ECU analysis using maruti ECU analyser and nothing came out of it.

30th April 2008, 10:39	#1
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	Power steering issue in my Swift VDI Folks, I am facing sudden loss of power in power steering when I am slowing in 4th gear and I press the clutch to down shift. This loss of power though is just for a fraction of a second. 1. Is there a major issue? 2. Have any of you faced similar problems? 3. What is the best way to inform the service adviser of this issue? (I am nearing my 4th service schedule and would like to get this highlighted to the service adviser ). Your advise is much appreciated.
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30th April 2008, 11:12	#2
svsantosh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubai Posts: 4,006 Thanked: 6,349 Times View My Garage	oh oh oh... One more "The Reliable" Swift with an issue. DieselFan, If I am right, all Maruti;s come with EPS and not hydraulic PS. In that case there should be no direct link between the engine;s power and the Steering (as would be the case in the Brake system). This may mean some issue with the EPS system, electricals, electronics, etc etc. Give some more description of your car and its history includings Tyre Mods, rims mods, accidents (if any), rough/good roads usage.
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30th April 2008, 11:19	#3
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	Yes Swift d comes with a EPS. No Mods done on the car. The car did have a ECU issue initially which maruti replaced. This was an year back. No accidents. Road usage is on good roads and mostly highways (an FE of >20 kmpl is evidence to this).
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30th April 2008, 14:20	#4
thirst4torque BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Norrköping Posts: 98 Thanked: 10 Times	At what speed you are facing this issue? AFAIK the EPS cuts of at a particulat speed ie its not functional at higher speeds.
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30th April 2008, 14:26	#5
rippergeo Posts: n/a	have not had that happen in any of our EPS cars 3 from maruti, 1 from hyundai. what happens when you say you lose power steering? does the steering go completely rigid and become almost impossible to turn, like when you switch off the engine?
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30th April 2008, 14:32	#7
kuttapan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,155 Thanked: 22 Times View My Garage	Check the fuse for the EPS. May be faulty.
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3rd June 2008, 10:54	#8
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	Kuttapan, Nothing wrong with the fuse. EPS works fine all the while except once in a while it freezes for a fraction of a second. I was not able to simulate the condition to Maruti hence was not corrected during my service. It happens very infrequently (Once in a fortnight. Now even less) and only for a fraction of a second.
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8th June 2008, 23:27	#9
tush BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 331 Thanked: 12 Times	this had happened to me twice while driving but both these times my engine had turned off and this issue had occured... may be because of bad clutch timing by me... So as far as i know if there is some power loss in between to the EPS in the form of your engine shutting down suddenly etc then it happens....
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9th June 2008, 09:49	#11
dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,803 Thanked: 462 Times View My Garage	Reset your ECU by disconnecting the battery terminal and if it still doesnt resolve, get it checked by A.S.S
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27th September 2009, 20:48	#12
ku69rd Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,510 Thanked: 1,779 Times View My Garage	Diesel Fan, Were you able to resolve this issue?
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28th September 2009, 10:24	#13
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	The problem had disappeared after a while. Now I do not face this problem anymore.
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28th September 2009, 16:15	#14
kuttapan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,155 Thanked: 22 Times View My Garage	Incidentally, I had seen another guy with this problem, where the power steering went limp intermittently, once when I visited a car wash. Dunno what happened thereafter, but goes to show that it is not a one-off issue.
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29th September 2009, 08:57	#15
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	Mine was not an On-Off issue, even a noice can make out if it is a On-Off issue as you have to restart the car. Maybe it was ECU reset which did the trick while servicing. I had also insisted on a ECU analysis using maruti ECU analyser and nothing came out of it.
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